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From: Ernie Petrides <petrides@redhat.com>
To: Jim Keniston <jkenisto@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
	Linda Wang <lwang@redhat.com>,
	        systemtap@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/2] uprobes: single-step out of line
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 22:31:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705112206.l4BM6P9Z013621@pasta.boston.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 10 May 2007 15:17:44 PDT."              <1178835464.3753.18.camel@ibm-ni9dztukfq8.beaverton.ibm.com>

On Thursday, 10-May-2007 at 15:17 PDT, Jim Keniston wrote:

> On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 21:34 -0400, Ernie Petrides wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure what the best solution is.  Maybe what you've already
> > got here is reasonable.  I'd need to study mm_struct compatibility
> > issues for a while to determine if this would be a deal-breaker in
> > terms of the kABI issue.  (We have this "#ifndef __GENKSYMS__" hack
> > that can sometimes be used to accommodate these sorts of structure
> > additions in a RHEL update to avoid the symbol checksum change, but
> > it's only viable if there's no true underlying compatibility problem.)
>
>
> Yes, I'd appreciate it if you confirm the need for a change here, since
> the effort/implications for this change are non-trivial.


I've researched "mm_struct" usage in the latest RHEL5 kernel sources,
specifically looking for dependencies on the structure size and on the
offsets to the fields beyond the "mm_context_t".

As far as I can see, all of these dependencies are in the base part of
the kernel (as opposed to modules).  This suggest that the __GENKSYMS__
hack could be used to hide your new "uprobes_ssol_area" field being
added to the "mm_context_t" (to preserve exported symbol versioning)
without causing a true binary compatibility problem.

That being said, I don't represent views of the RHEL5 kernel maintainer
nor any other senior developers who might have to sign off on such a
change in the hypothetical scenario of a uprobes back-port to RHEL5.
But using __GENKSYMS__ for this situation looks safe to me.

Obviously, this is a non-issue for upstream acceptance, since all
sources are expected to be recompiled (and thus there is no attempt
to preserve kABI).  I did notice, however, that the "dumpable" field
of the "mm_struct" comes after the "mm_context_t" upstream in 2.6.21
(unlike in RHEL5).  Some other distro based on a more recent upstream
version could conceivably have an issue with this field, since it's
remotely possible (though unlikely) that a 3rd-party exec format
handler or security module might access "dumpable" (whose field
offset would change with an "mm_context_t" addition).  But this is
a somewhat far-fetched example, so all in all, you're probably okay.

Cheers.  -ernie

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-11 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-05  1:07 Ernie Petrides
2007-05-07 22:02 ` Jim Keniston
2007-05-09  1:32   ` Ernie Petrides
2007-05-10 23:17     ` Jim Keniston
2007-05-11 22:31       ` Ernie Petrides [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-04-20 23:10 Jim Keniston

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