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From: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: ksummit-2008-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	        systemtap@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] DTrace
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:10:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080630204219.GA6631@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080630201031.GF7988@mit.edu>

Hi -

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 04:10:31PM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
> [...]
> > They shouldn't have to repackage it at all - just leave it in the
> > build tree.
> 
> The problem is that I am often juggling multiple kernel builds, and so
> I don't want to keep the full build tree around.  So I just want to
> extract out the specific files needed by Systemtap [...]

OK, we'll have to think about how to support that well.

> Stupid question --- has anyone thought about writing tools to strip
> out specific debug information not needed by Systemtap?

Yes, but nothing so simple/workable as to have been done already.

> For example, I assume systemtap doesn't need the line number
> information, since you can't set probes on arbitrary line numbers

Actually, we can - and now with wildcards too if you want
source-line-by-line tracing.  See the top of the NEWS file.

> (and even if you could, such tapsets would be so brittle that it
> wouldn't be funny); [...]

Yes, this is not a good fit for tapsets, but is handy for exploring
one's known version of code.  Also, we can now use relative line
numbers (line #10 within this function), which might be stable enough
for some tapset use.  (This is all very recent stuff, beware.)

> [...]  What about stripping out the text segment of the object
> files, so you aren't storing the information twice on disk, or
> compressing the debuginfo files so they take up less room on disk?

This is roughly what the Fedora/RHEL-style separated .ko.debug files
do, though I don't know if they are that complete.  (They'd need a
copy of the symbol tables, and probably other stuff.)


- FChE

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-30 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-30 13:57 DTrace Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-06-30 19:00 ` [Ksummit-2008-discuss] DTrace Grant Grundler
2008-06-30 19:40 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-30 20:00   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-06-30 20:19     ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-30 21:12       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-06-30 23:02         ` David Miller
2008-06-30 21:13       ` James Bottomley
2008-06-30 22:10       ` Frank Ch. Eigler [this message]
2008-07-01  2:42         ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-01  7:08           ` Roland McGrath
2008-07-01 10:15             ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-01 11:04               ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-07-01 12:13                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-02 20:27                   ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-07-01 20:06               ` Roland McGrath
2008-07-01 23:13                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-02  2:23                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-02 19:27                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-02 21:40                     ` Potential Systemtap topics for the Kernel Summit Theodore Tso
2008-07-02 21:51                       ` [Ksummit-2008-discuss] " Jonathan Corbet
2008-07-02 23:41                         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-07-02 22:38                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-07-02 22:54                       ` [Ksummit-2008-discuss] " Stephen Hemminger
2008-07-03  0:44                         ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-07-03  1:02                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-03  1:50                             ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-03  1:51                             ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-07-02 20:08                   ` [Ksummit-2008-discuss] DTrace Joel Becker
2008-07-02 20:17                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-07-02 20:41                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-02 21:19                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-02 21:30                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-02 21:46                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-07-05  9:46                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-05 10:07                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-05 12:12                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-05 18:08                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-05 13:50                       ` James Bottomley
2008-07-05 18:08                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-05 18:05                       ` K.Prasad
2008-07-07 14:36                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-07 17:44                           ` K.Prasad
2008-07-05 12:34                     ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-01  5:29   ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2008-06-30 19:59 ` James Bottomley
2008-06-30 23:52   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-07-08 23:32   ` Eric W. Biederman
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2008-06-30 19:27                 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-01  1:21                   ` Jim Keniston
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2008-07-06 15:47                     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-06 16:36                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-07-06 18:05                         ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-06 18:24                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-07-06 21:46                             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-06 22:47                               ` Karen Shaeffer
2008-07-06 23:15                                 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-07  5:59                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-07-07 11:19                                 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
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     [not found]       ` <aday74qlh08.fsf@cisco.com>
     [not found]         ` <4865B111.2040307@redhat.com>
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     [not found]                 ` <1215273663.3439.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2008-07-06 23:33                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-07 14:35                     ` James Bottomley
2008-07-07 15:02                     ` James Bottomley

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