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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
	        ksummit-2008-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	        Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	systemtap@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Potential Systemtap topics for the 	Kernel Summit
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:41:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080702234054.GZ15832@ghostprotocols.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080702155050.0ab6e160@bike.lwn.net>

Em Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 03:50:50PM -0600, Jonathan Corbet escreveu:
> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:39:38 -0400
> Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> 
> > The bottom line is more communication between the kernel and systemtap
> > developers is a good thing (and getting more kernel developers to use
> > systemtap would be a good start).
> 
> And that's perhaps the most important part of the discussion, in a way:
> how can we get rid of the wall between the kernel and systemtap
> developers and get everybody working toward the goal of solving this
> persistent problem?  If we can do that, the rest will work out.

Reducing the cost every potential user of the debugging information has
to bear just because it may need the insurance (DWARF -> CTF) probably
can also be an acceptance driver. And there are so many more cool stuff
we can do if we have type information always available... :)

- Arnaldo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-02 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-30 13:57 DTrace Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-06-30 19:00 ` [Ksummit-2008-discuss] DTrace Grant Grundler
2008-06-30 19:40 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-30 20:00   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-06-30 20:19     ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-30 21:12       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2008-06-30 23:02         ` David Miller
2008-06-30 21:13       ` James Bottomley
2008-06-30 22:10       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-01  2:42         ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-01  7:08           ` Roland McGrath
2008-07-01 10:15             ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-01 11:04               ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-07-01 12:13                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-02 20:27                   ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-07-01 20:06               ` Roland McGrath
2008-07-01 23:13                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-02  2:23                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-02 19:27                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-02 21:40                     ` Potential Systemtap topics for the Kernel Summit Theodore Tso
2008-07-02 21:51                       ` [Ksummit-2008-discuss] " Jonathan Corbet
2008-07-02 23:41                         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2008-07-02 22:38                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-07-02 22:54                       ` [Ksummit-2008-discuss] " Stephen Hemminger
2008-07-03  0:44                         ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-07-03  1:02                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-03  1:50                             ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-03  1:51                             ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-07-02 20:08                   ` [Ksummit-2008-discuss] DTrace Joel Becker
2008-07-02 20:17                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-07-02 20:41                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-02 21:19                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-02 21:30                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-02 21:46                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-07-05  9:46                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-07-05 10:07                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-05 12:12                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-07-05 18:08                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-05 13:50                       ` James Bottomley
2008-07-05 18:08                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-05 18:05                       ` K.Prasad
2008-07-07 14:36                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-07 17:44                           ` K.Prasad
2008-07-05 12:34                     ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-01  5:29   ` Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2008-06-30 19:59 ` James Bottomley
2008-06-30 23:52   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2008-07-08 23:32   ` Eric W. Biederman

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