From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32085 invoked by alias); 24 Dec 2008 08:48:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 32078 invoked by uid 22791); 24 Dec 2008 08:48:21 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_05,KAM_MX,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_05,KAM_MX,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mx1.redhat.com (HELO mx1.redhat.com) (66.187.233.31) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:47:41 +0000 Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mBO8ldSM026269 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:47:39 -0500 Received: from gateway.sf.frob.com (vpn-12-117.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.12.117]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mBO8lcl9021472; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:47:39 -0500 Received: from magilla.sf.frob.com (magilla.sf.frob.com [198.49.250.228]) by gateway.sf.frob.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3258357B; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:47:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by magilla.sf.frob.com (Postfix, from userid 5281) id 69A36FC3B7; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:47:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Roland McGrath To: Masami Hiramatsu Cc: "Frank Ch. Eigler" , Theodore Tso , systemtap@sources.redhat.com Subject: Re: Discussion at Linux Foundation Japan Symposium In-Reply-To: Masami Hiramatsu's message of Wednesday, 24 December 2008 01:08:48 -0500 <4951D1F0.7000307@redhat.com> References: <20081221003831.GG24081@redhat.com> <20081222181921.GH23723@mit.edu> <20081222203747.GA4195@redhat.com> <20081223211306.67D29FC3B7@magilla.sf.frob.com> <49516247.50704@redhat.com> <20081223222043.C6AF3FC3B7@magilla.sf.frob.com> <495173A8.7060405@redhat.com> <20081224033922.A7942FC3B7@magilla.sf.frob.com> <4951D1F0.7000307@redhat.com> Emacs: there's a reason it comes with a built-in psychotherapist. Message-Id: <20081224084737.69A36FC3B7@magilla.sf.frob.com> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:26:00 -0000 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.58 on 172.16.52.254 X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact systemtap-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: systemtap-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2008-q4/txt/msg00644.txt.bz2 > Would you mean you can release a usable prototype in two months > if no trouble? Great! We'll see how it goes. > Sorry about confusing you. > I just mean that we'd better notify users who are suffered from > huge debuginfo that there is a plan to make a tool which can compress > the debuginfo (and they can use it soon). Ok. I think we have been saying for a long time that this is a likely solution and one we intended to have at some point. Until there is something concrete to show, I wouldn't like to start offering new promises about it. > Unless that, we will waste time on finding another way to solve this > issue :(. I don't know that one solution is going to address all of everyone's concerns, and certainly the initial versions will have some trade-offs that won't suit some. I wouldn't necessarily say that the presence of this effort should preclude exploring other approaches. Thanks, Roland