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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: "Masami Hiramatsu" <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
	"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@redhat.com>,
	"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Jim Keniston" <jkenisto@us.ibm.com>,
	"Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli" <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Jason Baron" <jbaron@redhat.com>,
	"K.Prasad" <prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Srikar Dronamraju" <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	systemtap <systemtap@sources.redhat.com>,
	DLE <dle-develop@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip perf/probes 00/10] x86 insn decoder bugfixes
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:25:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091103072439.GA19928@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091029191801.CADC3538@magilla.sf.frob.com>


* Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com> wrote:

> > Thirdly, i think we should expose the build-id of the kernel and the 
> > path to the vmlinux (and modules) via /proc/build-id or so. That way 
> > tooling can find the vmlinux file and can validate that it matches 
> > the kernel's signature. (maybe include a file date as well - that's 
> > a faster check than a full build-id checksum, especially for large 
> > kernels)
> 
> You seem to be confused about what build IDs are.  There is no 
> "checksum validation".  Once the bits are stored there is no 
> calculation ever done again, only exact comparison with an expected 
> build ID bitstring.  The size of an object file is immaterial.
> 
> As Frank mentioned, the kernel's and modules' allocated ELF notes (and 
> thus build IDs) are already exposed in /sys.  Tools like "eu-unstrip 
> -nk" use this information today.

Ah, i didnt realize we link with --build-id already, unconditonally, 
since v2.6.23 (if ld supports it):

 |
 | From 18991197b4b588255ccabf472ebc84db7b66a19c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
 | From: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
 | Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:48:40 -0700
 | Subject: [PATCH] Use --build-id ld option
 |
 | This change passes the --build-id when linking the kernel and when 
 | linking modules, if ld supports it.  This is a new GNU ld option that 
 | synthesizes an ELF note section inside the read-only data.  The note in 
 | this section contains unique identifying bits called the "build ID", 
 | which are generated so as to be different for any two linked ELF files 
 | that aren't identical.
 |

So we have an SHA1 build-id already on the vmlinux and on modules, and 
it's exposed in /sys/*/*/notes. Just have to make use of it in 
tools/perf too.

The other useful addition i mentioned isnt implemented yet: to emit an 
ELF note of the absolute path of the output directory the kernel was 
built in as well. This information is not available right now, and it 
would be a place to look in to search for the vmlinux and the modules.

What do you think? Also, if we do this, is there a standard way to name 
it , or should i just pick a suitably new, Linux-specific name for that?

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-03  7:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-27 20:42 Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-27 20:42 ` [PATCH -tip perf/probes 06/10] kprobe-tracer: Compare both of event-name and event-group to find probe Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-27 20:42 ` [PATCH -tip perf/probes 03/10] x86: Add pclmulq to x86 opcode map Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-27 20:42 ` [PATCH -tip perf/probes 01/10] x86: Fix SSE opcode map bug Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-27 20:42 ` [PATCH -tip perf/probes 04/10] x86: AVX instruction set decoder support Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-27 20:42 ` [PATCH -tip perf/probes 05/10] x86: Add Intel FMA instructions to x86 opcode map Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-27 20:42 ` [PATCH -tip perf/probes 02/10] x86: Merge INAT_REXPFX into INAT_PFX_* Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-27 20:43 ` [PATCH -tip perf/probes 10/10] perf/probes: Support function entry relative line number Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-27 20:43 ` [PATCH -tip perf/probes 08/10] perf/probes: Change command-line option of perf-probe Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-27 20:43 ` [PATCH -tip perf/probes 09/10] perf/probes: Change probepoint syntax " Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-27 20:43 ` [PATCH -tip perf/probes 07/10] perf/probes: Exit searching after finding target function Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-29  8:54 ` [PATCH -tip perf/probes 00/10] x86 insn decoder bugfixes Ingo Molnar
2009-10-29 15:10   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-10-29 16:56   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-29 20:10     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-29 20:25       ` Josh Stone
2009-10-29 20:41         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-02 21:16     ` [PATCH -tip perf/probes 00/10] x86 insn decoder bugfixes and perf-probe syntax changes Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-02 21:26       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-11-02 21:57         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-03  0:37       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-11-03  7:33         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-11-03 15:07           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-29 17:16   ` [PATCH -tip perf/probes 00/10] x86 insn decoder bugfixes Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-10-29 19:18   ` Roland McGrath
2009-11-03  7:25     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-11-03 12:35       ` Using build-ids in perf tools was " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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