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From: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
To: Hemant Kumar <hemant@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	oleg@redhat.com,	hegdevasant@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, anton@redhat.com,	systemtap@sourceware.org,
	aravinda@linux.vnet.ibm.com,	penberg@iki.fi,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PATCH v4 5/5] perf/sdt: Add support to perf record to trace SDT events
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 09:07:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5459E8BC.8030500@hitachi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5459C8BE.30809@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

(2014/11/05 15:50), Hemant Kumar wrote:
> Hi Masami,
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> (2014/11/04 17:06), Hemant Kumar wrote:
>>> Hi Namhyung,
>>>
>>> On 11/04/2014 01:08 PM, Namhyung Kim wrote:
>>>> Hi Hemant,
>>>>
>>>> As you know, you need to keep an eye on how (kprobes) event cache
>>>> patchset from Masami settles down.  For those who aren't CC'ed, please
>>>> see the link below:
>>>>
>>>>    https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/10/31/207
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 16:26:28 +0530, Hemant Kumar wrote:
>>>>> This patch adds support to perf to record SDT events. When invoked,
>>>>> the SDT event is looked up in the sdt-cache. If its found, an entry is
>>>>> made silently to uprobe_events file and then recording is invoked, and
>>>>> then the entry for the SDT event in uprobe_events is silently 
>>>>> discarded.
>>>>>
>>>>> The SDT events are already stored in a cache file
>>>>> (/var/cache/perf/perf-sdt-file.cache).
>>>>> Although the file_hash table helps in addition or deletion of SDT 
>>>>> events
>>>>> from the cache, its not of much use when it comes to probing the 
>>>>> actual
>>>>> SDT event, because the key to this hash list is a file name and not 
>>>>> the
>>>>> SDT event name (which is given as an argument to perf record). So, we
>>>>> won't be able to hash into it.
>>>> It likely to be ended up with per-file or per-buildid cache files under
>>>> ~/.debug directory.  In this case we also need to have the (central)
>>>> event-to-cache table anyway IMHO.
>>
>> What we are talking is to make a new caching file with buildid under
>> .debug/.
>> We already has ~/.debug/.build-id/<build-id> for string the binary
>> symbol maps. I think there are 2 options, one is expanding the current
>> build-id file format to include sdt and probe-event caches. The other is
> 
> Like a single cache to manage all the events for that file? How do we 
> distinguish between the events as we will be having perf record to read 
> SDT events from this cache?
> 
>> to add ~/.debug/.build-id/<build-id>.probe and
>> ~/.debug/.build-id/<build-id>.sdt for caching probe/sdt information.
>>
> 
> This approach looks convenient.
> 
>> And also, user interface is a discussion point. This series defines new
>> sdt-cache command, and we already have buildid-cache command. We should
>> have probe-cache command too? or consolidate those cache managing 
>> commands?
>> This question should be involving your series too.
>>
> 
> I think, we need not have multiple sub-commands to manage the cache. We 
> can consolidate the cache management of probe events (including SDT 
> events) to a single command.

Agreed. maybe perf-cache --buildid/--sdt/--probe would be good.

>>>>> To avoid this problem, we can create another hash list "event_hash" 
>>>>> list
>>>>> which will be maintained along with the file_hash list.
>>>>> Whenever a user invokes 'perf record -e %provider:event, perf should
>>>>> initialize the event_hash list and the file_hash list.
>>>>> The key to event_hash list is calculated from the event name and its
>>>>> provider name.
>>>> Isn't it enough just to use provide name?  I guess the provider names
>>>> are (should be?) unique among a system although there's no absolute
>>>> guarantee for that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, there is no guarantee for the provider names to be unique.
>>> If we use only provider name with "perf record", then, what if a user
>>> wants to trace
>>> only a specific SDT event (not all the events for that provider)?
>>> What do you think?
>>
>> How about failing if the provider name is not unique unless user
>> gives the actual binary path?
>>
>>
> 
> You mean something like this:
> # perf record -e %provider @/path/to/file ...?

Yes, that is what I meant. :)

Thank you,


-- 
Masami HIRAMATSU
Software Platform Research Dept. Linux Technology Research Center
Hitachi, Ltd., Yokohama Research Laboratory
E-mail: masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com


  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-05  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-02 12:40 [PATCH v4 0/5] perf/sdt: SDT events listing/probing Hemant Kumar
2014-11-02 12:41 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] perf/sdt: ELF support for SDT Hemant Kumar
2014-11-02 12:42 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] perf/sdt: Delete SDT events from cache Hemant Kumar
2014-11-02 12:42 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] perf/sdt: Show SDT cache contents Hemant Kumar
2014-11-02 12:42 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] perf/sdt: Add SDT events into a cache Hemant Kumar
2014-11-02 12:43 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] perf/sdt: Add support to perf record to trace SDT events Hemant Kumar
2014-11-04  7:38   ` Namhyung Kim
2014-11-04  8:06     ` Hemant Kumar
2014-11-04 12:57       ` Masami Hiramatsu
     [not found]         ` <5459BD3E.7010804@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2014-11-05  6:51           ` Hemant Kumar
2014-11-05  9:07             ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2014-11-05 13:28               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-11-05  7:06         ` Namhyung Kim
2014-11-05  9:05           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-06  2:16             ` Josh Stone
2014-11-06  5:34               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-06  7:06             ` Hemant Kumar
2014-11-06 14:56               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-07  8:21               ` [RFC] perf-cache command interface design Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-07  8:42                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-07 13:58                   ` [PATCH RESEND 1/2] perf tools: Move disable_buildid_cache() to util/build-id.c Namhyung Kim
2014-11-07 13:58                     ` [PATCH 2/2] perf tools: Add record.use-buildid-cache config option Namhyung Kim
2014-11-07 15:16                   ` [RFC] perf-cache command interface design David Ahern
2014-11-07 15:33                     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-11-07 10:51                 ` Hemant Kumar
2014-11-08  4:15                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-07 14:38                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-11-08  4:26                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-07 14:43                 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-11-08  4:38                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-10 10:59                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-10 12:23                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-11-11  6:53                     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-11 13:10                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-11-12 15:26                         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-17  3:09                           ` Namhyung Kim
2014-11-17  3:17                             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-17 22:09                               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-18  4:51                                 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-11-18 11:16                                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-18  4:41                               ` Namhyung Kim
2014-11-18 10:32                                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-17 18:59                             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-11-18  4:46                               ` Namhyung Kim
2014-11-10 12:05                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2014-11-10 12:31                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2014-11-10 12:50                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-10 13:37                     ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2014-11-05 18:24           ` [PATCH v4 5/5] perf/sdt: Add support to perf record to trace SDT events Hemant Kumar

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