* Re: Systemtap on Debian squeeze [not found] <CACeRcxJaO31Dv6y3Gs-sWS-H=OJDPAkBXP-w--AHGpNRk-ZFfw@mail.gmail.com> @ 2012-06-11 21:32 ` Javier Ubillos 2012-06-11 21:34 ` Javier Ubillos 2012-06-12 9:36 ` Timo Juhani Lindfors 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Javier Ubillos @ 2012-06-11 21:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: systemtap Hi. I'm trying to get systemtap & stap to run in my debian-squeese installation, but not having much luck. http://pastebin.com/paCA5Fcd My best guess is that it has to do with the line: probe vfs_read@/build/buildd-linux-2.6_3.2.18-1~bpo60+1-amd64-t61foW/linux-2.6-3.2.18/debian/build/source_amd64_none/fs/read_write.c:364 kernel reloc=.dynamic pc=0xffffffff81106420 As I'm running kernel 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64. Judging by the rest of the output, stap seems to have figured out my kernelversion correctly, I can't figure out why it would try to go for 2.6-3.2.18 all of a sudden. Does any one have any suggestions about what I should look at? Below is the full output and some more info. // Javier (spam warning) jav@dib:~$ uname -a Linux dib 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Jun 3 21:40:57 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux jav@dib:~$ sudo stap -vvv -e 'probe vfs.read {printf("read performed\n"); exit()}' SystemTap translator/driver (version 1.2/0.153 non-git sources) Copyright (C) 2005-2010 Red Hat, Inc. and others This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. Session arch: x86_64 release: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 Created temporary directory "/tmp/stapOSQDuk" Parsed kernel "/lib/modules/3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64/build/.config", number of tuples: 4034 Parsed kernel "/lib/modules/3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64/build/Module.symvers", number of vmlinux exports: 5159 Searched "/usr/share/systemtap/tapset/x86_64/*.stp", found 3 Searched "/usr/share/systemtap/tapset/*.stp", found 65 Pass 1: parsed user script and 68 library script(s) using 52456virt/21072res/1864shr kb, in 70usr/0sys/73real ms. blacklist regexps: blfn: ^(atomic_notifier_call_chain|default_do_nmi|__die|die_nmi|do_debug|do_general_protection|do_int3|do_IRQ|do_page_fault|do_sparc64_fault|do_trap|dummy_nmi_callback|flush_icache_range|ia64_bad_break|ia64_do_page_fault|ia64_fault|io_check_error|mem_parity_error|nmi_watchdog_tick|notifier_call_chain|oops_begin|oops_end|program_check_exception|single_step_exception|sync_regs|unhandled_fault|unknown_nmi_error|.*raw_.*lock.*|.*read_.*lock.*|.*write_.*lock.*|.*spin_.*lock.*|.*rwlock_.*lock.*|.*rwsem_.*lock.*|.*mutex_.*lock.*|raw_.*|.*seq_.*lock.*|atomic_.*|atomic64_.*|get_bh|put_bh|.*apic.*|.*APIC.*|.*softirq.*|.*IRQ.*|.*_intr.*|__delay|.*kernel_text.*|get_current|current_.*|.*exception_tables.*|.*setup_rt_frame.*|.*preempt_count.*|preempt_schedule|__switch_to|special_mapping_.*)$ blfn_ret: ^(do_exit|sys_exit|sys_exit_group)$ blfile: ^(kernel/kprobes\.c|arch/.*/kernel/kprobes\.c|include/asm/io\.h|include/asm/bitops\.h|arch/.*/include/asm/io\.h|arch/.*/include/asm/bitops\.h|drivers/ide/ide-iops\.c)$ blsection: ^(\.init\.|\.exit\.|\.devinit\.|\.devexit\.|\.cpuinit\.|\.cpuexit\.|\.meminit\.|\.memexit\.) parsed 'vfs_read', func 'vfs_read' focused on module 'kernel = [0xffffffff81000000-0xffffffff81947000, bias 0x0] file /usr/lib/debug/boot/vmlinux-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 ELF machine |x86_64 (code 62) focused on module 'kernel' selected function vfs_read probe vfs_read@/build/buildd-linux-2.6_3.2.18-1~bpo60+1-amd64-t61foW/linux-2.6-3.2.18/debian/build/source_amd64_none/fs/read_write.c:364 kernel reloc=.dynamic pc=0xffffffff81106420 entry-pc lookup (dwarf_entrypc dieoffset: 0x1146330) = 0xffffffff81106420 (rc 0) finding location for local 'file' near address 0xffffffff81106420, module bias 0x0 get_cfa_ops @0xffffffff81106420, module_start @0xffffffff81000000 jav@dib:~$ dpkg -l |egrep -i "linux-image|linux-headers" ii linux-headers-2.6.32-5.spotify-common 2.6.32-41+spotify2 Common header files for Linux 2.6.32-5.spotify ii linux-headers-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-common 3.2.4-1~bpo60+1 Common header files for Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.1 ii linux-headers-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 3.2.18-1~bpo60+1 Header files for Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 ii linux-headers-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-common 3.2.18-1~bpo60+1 Common header files for Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.2 ii linux-image-2.6-amd64 3.2+44~bpo60+1 Linux for 64-bit PCs (dummy package) ii linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 2.6.32-45 Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs rc linux-image-2.6.32-5.spotify-amd64 2.6.32-41+spotify2 Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs ii linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 3.2.4-1~bpo60+1 Linux 3.2 for 64-bit PCs ii linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 3.2.18-1~bpo60+1 Linux 3.2 for 64-bit PCs ii linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64-dbg 3.2.18-1~bpo60+1 Debugging infos for Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 ii linux-image-amd64 3.2+44~bpo60+1 Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Systemtap on Debian squeeze 2012-06-11 21:32 ` Systemtap on Debian squeeze Javier Ubillos @ 2012-06-11 21:34 ` Javier Ubillos 2012-06-12 9:36 ` Timo Juhani Lindfors 1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Javier Ubillos @ 2012-06-11 21:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: systemtap For what it's worth. The following example works: stap -ve 'probe begin { log("hello world") exit () }' (outputs "hello world") However, the next example does not work: stap -c df -e 'probe syscall.* { if (target()==pid()) log(name." ".argstr) }' (more spam output) Systemtap translator/driver (version 1.7/0.153 Debian version 1.7-1+b1 (sid)) Copyright (C) 2005-2012 Red Hat, Inc. and others This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. enabled features: AVAHI LIBSQLITE3 NSS BOOST_SHARED_PTR TR1_UNORDERED_MAP NLS Created temporary directory "/tmp/stapKnevnf" Session arch: x86_64 release: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 Parsed kernel "/lib/modules/3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64/build/.config", containing 4034 tuples Parsed kernel /lib/modules/3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64/build/Module.symvers, which contained 5159 vmlinux exports Searched: " /usr/share/systemtap/tapset/x86_64/*.stp ", found: 4, processed: 4 Searched: " /usr/share/systemtap/tapset/*.stp ", found: 77, processed: 77 Pass 1: parsed user script and 81 library script(s) using 78032virt/22456res/2564shr kb, in 60usr/10sys/76real ms. wildcard '*' matched 'accept' Attempting to extract kernel debuginfo build ID from /lib/modules/3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64/build/vmlinux.id Attempting to extract kernel debuginfo build ID from /sys/kernel/notes blacklist regexps: blfn: ^(atomic_notifier_call_chain|default_do_nmi|__die|die_nmi|do_debug|do_general_protection|do_int3|do_IRQ|do_page_fault|do_sparc64_fault|do_trap|dummy_nmi_callback|flush_icache_range|ia64_bad_break|ia64_do_page_fault|ia64_fault|io_check_error|mem_parity_error|nmi_watchdog_tick|notifier_call_chain|oops_begin|oops_end|program_check_exception|single_step_exception|sync_regs|unhandled_fault|unknown_nmi_error|xen_[gs]et_debugreg|xen_irq_.*|xen_.*_fl_direct.*|check_events|xen_adjust_exception_frame|xen_iret.*|xen_sysret64.*|test_ti_thread_flag.*|inat_get_opcode_attribute|system_call_after_swapgs|.*raw_.*_lock.*|.*raw_.*_unlock.*|.*raw_.*_trylock.*|.*read_lock.*|.*read_unlock.*|.*read_trylock.*|.*write_lock.*|.*write_unlock.*|.*write_trylock.*|.*write_seqlock.*|.*write_sequnlock.*|.*spin_lock.*|.*spin_unlock.*|.*spin_trylock.*|.*spin_is_locked.*|rwsem_.*lock.*|.*mutex_.*lock.*|raw_.*|atomic_.*|atomic64_.*|get_bh|put_bh|.*apic.*|.*APIC.*|.*softirq.*|.*IRQ.*|.*_intr.*|__delay|.*kernel_text.*|get_current|current_.*|.*exception_tables.*|.*setup_rt_frame.*|.*preempt_count.*|preempt_schedule|__switch_to|special_mapping_.*|.*_pte_.*)$ blfn_ret: ^(do_exit|sys_exit|sys_exit_group)$ blfile: ^(kernel/kprobes\.c|arch/.*/kernel/kprobes\.c|.*/include/asm/io\.h|.*/include/asm/io_64\.h|.*/include/asm/bitops\.h|drivers/ide/ide-iops\.c|arch/.*/kernel/paravirt\.c|.*/include/asm/paravirt\.h|fs/seq_file\.c)$ blsection: ^(\.init\.|\.exit\.|\.devinit\.|\.devexit\.|\.cpuinit\.|\.cpuexit\.|\.meminit\.|\.memexit\.) parse 'sys_accept4', func 'sys_accept4' focused on module 'kernel' = [0xffffffff81000000-0xffffffff81947000, bias 0 file /usr/lib/debug/boot/vmlinux-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 ELF machine |x86_64 (code 62) focused on module 'kernel' selected function sys_accept4 selected function sys_accept4 probe sys_accept4@/build/buildd-linux-2.6_3.2.18-1~bpo60+1-amd64-t61foW/linux-2.6-3.2.18/debian/build/source_amd64_none/net/socket.c:1487 kernel reloc=.dynamic pc=0xffffffff8129603b finding location for local 'flags' near address 0xffffffff8129603b, module bias 0 get_cfa_ops @0xffffffff8129603b, module_start @0xffffffff81000000 Yours // Javier 2012/6/11 Javier Ubillos <javier@ubillos.org>: > Hi. > > I'm trying to get systemtap & stap to run in my debian-squeese > installation, but not having much luck. > > http://pastebin.com/paCA5Fcd > > My best guess is that it has to do with the line: > probe vfs_read@/build/buildd-linux-2.6_3.2.18-1~bpo60+1-amd64-t61foW/linux-2.6-3.2.18/debian/build/source_amd64_none/fs/read_write.c:364 > kernel reloc=.dynamic pc=0xffffffff81106420 > As I'm running kernel 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64. > > Judging by the rest of the output, stap seems to have figured out my > kernelversion correctly, I can't figure out why it would try to go for > 2.6-3.2.18 all of a sudden. > Does any one have any suggestions about what I should look at? > > Below is the full output and some more info. > // Javier > (spam warning) > > > > > jav@dib:~$ uname -a > Linux dib 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Jun 3 21:40:57 UTC 2012 > x86_64 GNU/Linux > > > jav@dib:~$ sudo stap -vvv -e 'probe vfs.read {printf("read > performed\n"); exit()}' > SystemTap translator/driver (version 1.2/0.153 non-git sources) > Copyright (C) 2005-2010 Red Hat, Inc. and others > This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. > Session arch: x86_64 release: 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 > Created temporary directory "/tmp/stapOSQDuk" > Parsed kernel "/lib/modules/3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64/build/.config", number > of tuples: 4034 > Parsed kernel "/lib/modules/3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64/build/Module.symvers", > number of vmlinux exports: 5159 > Searched "/usr/share/systemtap/tapset/x86_64/*.stp", found 3 > Searched "/usr/share/systemtap/tapset/*.stp", found 65 > Pass 1: parsed user script and 68 library script(s) using > 52456virt/21072res/1864shr kb, in 70usr/0sys/73real ms. > blacklist regexps: > blfn: ^(atomic_notifier_call_chain|default_do_nmi|__die|die_nmi|do_debug|do_general_protection|do_int3|do_IRQ|do_page_fault|do_sparc64_fault|do_trap|dummy_nmi_callback|flush_icache_range|ia64_bad_break|ia64_do_page_fault|ia64_fault|io_check_error|mem_parity_error|nmi_watchdog_tick|notifier_call_chain|oops_begin|oops_end|program_check_exception|single_step_exception|sync_regs|unhandled_fault|unknown_nmi_error|.*raw_.*lock.*|.*read_.*lock.*|.*write_.*lock.*|.*spin_.*lock.*|.*rwlock_.*lock.*|.*rwsem_.*lock.*|.*mutex_.*lock.*|raw_.*|.*seq_.*lock.*|atomic_.*|atomic64_.*|get_bh|put_bh|.*apic.*|.*APIC.*|.*softirq.*|.*IRQ.*|.*_intr.*|__delay|.*kernel_text.*|get_current|current_.*|.*exception_tables.*|.*setup_rt_frame.*|.*preempt_count.*|preempt_schedule|__switch_to|special_mapping_.*)$ > blfn_ret: ^(do_exit|sys_exit|sys_exit_group)$ > blfile: ^(kernel/kprobes\.c|arch/.*/kernel/kprobes\.c|include/asm/io\.h|include/asm/bitops\.h|arch/.*/include/asm/io\.h|arch/.*/include/asm/bitops\.h|drivers/ide/ide-iops\.c)$ > blsection: ^(\.init\.|\.exit\.|\.devinit\.|\.devexit\.|\.cpuinit\.|\.cpuexit\.|\.meminit\.|\.memexit\.) > parsed 'vfs_read', func 'vfs_read' > focused on module 'kernel = [0xffffffff81000000-0xffffffff81947000, > bias 0x0] file /usr/lib/debug/boot/vmlinux-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 ELF > machine |x86_64 (code 62) > focused on module 'kernel' > selected function vfs_read > probe vfs_read@/build/buildd-linux-2.6_3.2.18-1~bpo60+1-amd64-t61foW/linux-2.6-3.2.18/debian/build/source_amd64_none/fs/read_write.c:364 > kernel reloc=.dynamic pc=0xffffffff81106420 > entry-pc lookup (dwarf_entrypc dieoffset: 0x1146330) = 0xffffffff81106420 (rc 0) > finding location for local 'file' near address 0xffffffff81106420, > module bias 0x0 > get_cfa_ops @0xffffffff81106420, module_start @0xffffffff81000000 > > > > jav@dib:~$ dpkg -l |egrep -i "linux-image|linux-headers" > ii linux-headers-2.6.32-5.spotify-common 2.6.32-41+spotify2 > Common header files for Linux 2.6.32-5.spotify > ii linux-headers-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-common 3.2.4-1~bpo60+1 > Common header files for Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.1 > ii linux-headers-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 3.2.18-1~bpo60+1 > Header files for Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 > ii linux-headers-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-common 3.2.18-1~bpo60+1 > Common header files for Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.2 > ii linux-image-2.6-amd64 3.2+44~bpo60+1 > Linux for 64-bit PCs (dummy package) > ii linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 2.6.32-45 > Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs > rc linux-image-2.6.32-5.spotify-amd64 2.6.32-41+spotify2 > Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs > ii linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 3.2.4-1~bpo60+1 > Linux 3.2 for 64-bit PCs > ii linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 3.2.18-1~bpo60+1 > Linux 3.2 for 64-bit PCs > ii linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64-dbg 3.2.18-1~bpo60+1 > Debugging infos for Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 > ii linux-image-amd64 3.2+44~bpo60+1 > Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Systemtap on Debian squeeze 2012-06-11 21:32 ` Systemtap on Debian squeeze Javier Ubillos 2012-06-11 21:34 ` Javier Ubillos @ 2012-06-12 9:36 ` Timo Juhani Lindfors 2012-06-12 10:05 ` Javier Ubillos 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Timo Juhani Lindfors @ 2012-06-12 9:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Javier Ubillos; +Cc: systemtap Javier Ubillos <javier@ubillos.org> writes: > I'm trying to get systemtap & stap to run in my debian-squeese > installation, but not having much luck. What does http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/systemtap/diagnose-error-cases.bash print for you? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Systemtap on Debian squeeze 2012-06-12 9:36 ` Timo Juhani Lindfors @ 2012-06-12 10:05 ` Javier Ubillos 2012-06-12 20:55 ` Adrien Kunysz 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Javier Ubillos @ 2012-06-12 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Timo Juhani Lindfors; +Cc: systemtap It outputs nothing. Should I give it some commandline argument? // Jav 2012/6/12 Timo Juhani Lindfors <timo.lindfors@iki.fi>: > Javier Ubillos <javier@ubillos.org> writes: >> I'm trying to get systemtap & stap to run in my debian-squeese >> installation, but not having much luck. > > What does > > http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/systemtap/diagnose-error-cases.bash > > print for you? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Systemtap on Debian squeeze 2012-06-12 10:05 ` Javier Ubillos @ 2012-06-12 20:55 ` Adrien Kunysz 2012-06-12 21:16 ` Javier Ubillos 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Adrien Kunysz @ 2012-06-12 20:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Javier Ubillos; +Cc: Timo Juhani Lindfors, systemtap [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 646 bytes --] I guess something like this could help to figure out what's wrong (if not with your system, with that script): $ bash -x diagnose-error-cases.bash On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:04:44PM +0200, Javier Ubillos wrote: > It outputs nothing. > Should I give it some commandline argument? > > // Jav > > 2012/6/12 Timo Juhani Lindfors <timo.lindfors@iki.fi>: > > Javier Ubillos <javier@ubillos.org> writes: > >> I'm trying to get systemtap & stap to run in my debian-squeese > >> installation, but not having much luck. > > > > What does > > > > http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/systemtap/diagnose-error-cases.bash > > > > print for you? [-- Attachment #2: Digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 198 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Systemtap on Debian squeeze 2012-06-12 20:55 ` Adrien Kunysz @ 2012-06-12 21:16 ` Javier Ubillos 2012-06-12 21:26 ` Timo Juhani Lindfors 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Javier Ubillos @ 2012-06-12 21:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Adrien Kunysz; +Cc: Timo Juhani Lindfors, systemtap I got some help earlier today on IRC. It turned out my problem was I did not have elfutils installed (and that required a downgrade of libdw1). We found that out by running gdb on stap and printing a stacktrace (IIRC). // Jav 2012/6/12 Adrien Kunysz <adrien@kunysz.be>: > I guess something like this could help to figure out what's wrong > (if not with your system, with that script): > > $ bash -x diagnose-error-cases.bash > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:04:44PM +0200, Javier Ubillos wrote: >> It outputs nothing. >> Should I give it some commandline argument? >> >> // Jav >> >> 2012/6/12 Timo Juhani Lindfors <timo.lindfors@iki.fi>: >> > Javier Ubillos <javier@ubillos.org> writes: >> >> I'm trying to get systemtap & stap to run in my debian-squeese >> >> installation, but not having much luck. >> > >> > What does >> > >> > http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/systemtap/diagnose-error-cases.bash >> > >> > print for you? > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAk/XrBEACgkQKLX03ZSPZGx+nQCfcLnnrIj2Qts4Un+35qaj1vS3 > FVEAnRLx/lg62bmguMU3msWhgilKkN6B > =a6Ub > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Systemtap on Debian squeeze 2012-06-12 21:16 ` Javier Ubillos @ 2012-06-12 21:26 ` Timo Juhani Lindfors [not found] ` <CACeRcxLxR+KCoeAgMLL_idp-B-wdOLtZ4Xso_koEtZfjDqivsA@mail.gmail.com> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Timo Juhani Lindfors @ 2012-06-12 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Javier Ubillos; +Cc: Adrien Kunysz, systemtap Javier Ubillos <javier@ubillos.org> writes: > It turned out my problem was I did not have elfutils installed (and > that required a downgrade of libdw1). So was apt-get install elfutils enough to fix the problem? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* Re: Systemtap on Debian squeeze [not found] ` <CACeRcxLxR+KCoeAgMLL_idp-B-wdOLtZ4Xso_koEtZfjDqivsA@mail.gmail.com> @ 2012-06-13 4:47 ` Timo Juhani Lindfors 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Timo Juhani Lindfors @ 2012-06-13 4:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Javier Ubillos; +Cc: systemtap, Adrien Kunysz Javier Ubillos <javier@ubillos.org> writes: > Maybe make it a dependency for the .deb? We can't change systemtap in squeeze anymore. systemtap in wheezy works just fine here without elfutils. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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