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From: Richard J Moore <richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: ak@suse.de, Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <hiramatu@sdl.hitachi.co.jp>,
	Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu@gmail.com>,
	michel.dagenais@polymtl.ca, Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	Satoshi Oshima <soshima@redhat.com>,
	sugita@sdl.hitachi.co.jp, systemtap@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: Hitachi djprobe mechanism
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:44:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <OFA4F3B94A.1FCEDBA5-ON4125704D.002F1039-4125704D.002F853F@uk.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p73d5p2gi7o.fsf@bragg.suse.de>





that's a very good point. cmpxchg is not always considered for atomic
storing, though one does have to handle the complication of crossing page
boundaries.
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Richard J Moore
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             Andi Kleen                                                    
             <ak@suse.de>                                                  
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             ak@suse.de              Mathieu Desnoyers                     
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             29/07/2005              Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com>,   
             08:54                   Masami Hiramatsu                      
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                                     Hiramatsu                             
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                                     McGrath <roland@redhat.com>, Richard  
                                     J Moore/UK/IBM@IBMGB,                 
                                     systemtap@sources.redhat.com,         
                                     sugita@sdl.hitachi.co.jp, Satoshi     
                                     Oshima <soshima@redhat.com>,          
                                     michel.dagenais@polymtl.ca            
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                                     Re: Hitachi djprobe mechanism         
                                                                           
                                                                           




Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org> writes:
>
> And as the jmp instruction is 5 bytes, there seems to be no hope to find
an
> atomic operation that will write that.

Any 64bit architecture can write 8 bytes mostly atomically (at least
towards
readers) and many 32bit architectures (like newer x86 with cmpxchg or sse)
can too.

An 8 byte read-modify-store is not protected against multiple writers,
but that is no problem for probes which can protect against that
with a different lock.

x86 could actually do it atomically even for writers with cmpxchg8.

-Andi


  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-29  8:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-27 21:05 Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2005-07-28  1:51 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-28  2:10   ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-28 16:23     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2005-07-28 16:28       ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-28 17:36         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]           ` <20050728110717.A30199@unix-os.sc.intel.com>
2005-07-28 18:33             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]               ` <20050728133456.A32210@unix-os.sc.intel.com>
2005-07-28 23:53                 ` Richard J Moore
2005-07-29  5:59                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-07-29  7:55                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-29  8:44                     ` Richard J Moore [this message]
2005-07-29  8:46                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-29 15:51                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-07-30 15:55                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-30 16:54                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-07-31 22:03                           ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-31 23:11                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-08-01 15:37                               ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-01  8:44                             ` Richard J Moore
2005-08-01 13:21                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-08-01 19:57                               ` Satoshi Oshima
2005-08-01 20:21                                 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-01 22:12                                   ` Satoshi Oshima
2005-08-01 22:54                                     ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-02 18:42                                       ` Satoshi Oshima
2005-08-03 14:50                                         ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-04  1:19                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-08-04  3:31                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-08-02  9:42                                   ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-08-02 15:09                                     ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-10-07 15:35                                     ` Richard J Moore
2005-10-08 18:33                                       ` mathieu lacage
2005-10-08 21:59                                         ` Richard J Moore
2005-10-08 23:24                                           ` Roland McGrath
2005-10-22 11:49                                             ` mathieu lacage
2005-10-22 22:09                                               ` Roland McGrath
2005-10-24  6:33                                                 ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-10-24 19:48                                                   ` Roland McGrath
     [not found]                                             ` <43621B0D.70204@sophia.inria.fr>
2005-11-07 10:04                                               ` mathieu lacage
2005-11-07 10:06                                                 ` mathieu lacage
2005-11-08  9:49                                             ` Richard J Moore
2005-10-09 16:47                                           ` mathieu lacage
2005-08-02 15:33                                   ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-08-02 15:36                                     ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-08-02 16:12                                     ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-02 16:30                                       ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-08-02 16:46                                         ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-04 17:09                                         ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-08-03 14:46                                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-07-29 16:06                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2005-07-29 18:24                     ` sugita
2005-07-28 18:13       ` Richard J Moore
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-01 22:49 Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2005-08-01 23:05 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-01 23:18   ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-01 22:41 Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2005-08-02  3:21 ` Roland McGrath
2005-08-02  3:35   ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-01 20:46 Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2005-08-01 21:08 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-08-01 16:14 Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2005-08-01 20:31 ` Roland McGrath
2005-08-04  0:28   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-08-04 10:01     ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-05 16:25       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-08-05 16:39         ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-01 15:50 Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2005-08-01 16:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-07-29  0:18 Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2005-07-29  1:48 ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-29  3:41   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-07-29  3:47     ` Karim Yaghmour
2005-07-29  1:53 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2005-08-01  9:02   ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-08-01 13:18     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2005-08-02  7:07       ` Mathieu Lacage
2005-07-22 18:09 Frank Ch. Eigler
2005-07-21 22:32 Richard J Moore
2005-07-21 22:52 ` Roland McGrath
2005-07-22  2:52   ` Richard J Moore
2005-07-26  7:14   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2005-07-26  7:53     ` Roland McGrath
2005-07-27 13:02       ` Masami Hiramatsu

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