From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19340 invoked by alias); 30 Jun 2008 16:44:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 19331 invoked by uid 22791); 30 Jun 2008 16:44:14 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SARE_MSGID_LONG40,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from smtp-out.google.com (HELO smtp-out.google.com) (216.239.33.17) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:43:57 +0000 Received: from spaceape10.eur.corp.google.com (spaceape10.eur.corp.google.com [172.28.16.144]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id m5UGhi02029766 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:43:44 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; t=1214844224; bh=jPcULJKN97TNMiQqH3jAVcixP3s=; h=DomainKey-Signature:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:Cc: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Disposition:References; b=dUp+3SQYKzNr9abLA+UlK5zp72OsbrCk W/UGRzzij7NqZ5iLXcgCv4BGp2breTLgEj8V36yDqrlF845POQVMgQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=beta; d=google.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to: mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: content-disposition:references; b=rwvKfgAgn8XWJNJrcRD6I3xfiWIQtV+dwtwN1CRf3Kxs8w89qBDo0UH8lpio7QhPB z8hWAyXTGo3GOOs0Ld6Tw== Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wfc28.prod.google.com [10.142.3.28]) by spaceape10.eur.corp.google.com with ESMTP id m5UGh7sl031320 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:43:43 +0100 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so1570160wfc.24 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.174.18 with SMTP id w18mr1974915wfe.202.1214844223379; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.240.15 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:00:00 -0000 From: "Grant Grundler" To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] DTrace Cc: ksummit-2008-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org, systemtap@sources.redhat.com In-Reply-To: <20080630010423.GA7068@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080630010423.GA7068@redhat.com> Mailing-List: contact systemtap-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: systemtap-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2008-q2/txt/msg00799.txt.bz2 On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > Please forgive me for "crashing" the discussion party here. Frank, Excellent reply! Thanks! Just one observation here: > * dtrace "just works" ... > A growing set of > runnable end-user scripts is already packaged with systemtap, > intended for use by nonexperts, more help (e.g. concise problem > statements about what you'd like to measure/see) would be welcome. Would it be possible to look at prepackaged Dtrace "scripts" and generate something comparable for systemtap? I know the kernels are very different but the underlying functionality (manage resources: CPU, memory, disk, network, etc) is basically the same. In x86-64 case, it's the same HW doing essentially the same things. thanks, grant