From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18621 invoked by alias); 30 Sep 2004 16:55:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact xconq7-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: xconq7-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 18609 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2004 16:55:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.panix.com) (166.84.1.72) by sourceware.org with SMTP; 30 Sep 2004 16:55:07 -0000 Received: from panix5.panix.com (panix5.panix.com [166.84.1.5]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086B748749; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kingdon@localhost) by panix5.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id i8UGt6F04972; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:59:00 -0000 Message-Id: <200409301655.i8UGt6F04972@panix5.panix.com> From: Jim Kingdon To: mcdonald@phy.cmich.edu Cc: xconq7@sources.redhat.com In-reply-to: (message from Eric McDonald on Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:08:01 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: New Proposed Xconq Web Site Online References: X-SW-Source: 2004/txt/msg01292.txt.bz2 > Esperanto appears to be a declined and conjugated language, like > Latin. Only a little bit. There are only 2 cases (subject and object), compared with 6 (I think) for Latin, 4 for German. And there are only 3 tenses (past, present, future), compared with many more for romance languages. There is no gramatical gender. > The "j" endings are interesting; perhaps borrowed from a Slavic > language? Not sure where that comes from, but I have a vague recollection of other languages which form plurals by adding "y" (or "j", but it is the sound that would be spelled "y" in English). Italian changes the last vowel... > The root "lud" is probably "game" as it is in Latin, though it appears > to be used as a verb as well, Yup. Many roots can be used as multiple parts of speech by just varying the ending. Like English but more so. > "Milit" is probably a root dealing with soldier or military; similar > to Latin. "la" is probably "the". "kongreso" is a coming together, a > congress, a gathering, most likely. "Diplomatio" -> "Diplomacy". Yup. In this context, "kongreso" means an Esperanto conference. Here is the list of endings: -a adjective -o noun -e adverb -i verb (infinitive) -is verb, past tense -as verb, present tense -os verb, future tense -u verb, imperative -j plural -n accusative (object) case; can be combined with -a, -o, -j, etc. > I guess I am going to have to drop in on some Esperanto > conversations; solving linguistic puzzles is fun. There's always http://www.lernu.net/ (but that's only for people who read manuals - the Real Hacker(TM) will want to skip right to the grammar book written in Esperanto - http://purl.oclc.org/NET/pmeg ) > Now we will have to see if any Klingon speakers want > representation as well. Klingon speakers do not *want* representation; Kling speakers *demand* representation.