From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6114 invoked by alias); 1 Oct 2004 05:45:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact xconq7-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: xconq7-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 6102 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2004 05:45:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.panix.com) (166.84.1.74) by sourceware.org with SMTP; 1 Oct 2004 05:45:13 -0000 Received: from panix5.panix.com (panix5.panix.com [166.84.1.5]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849A1981EA; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 01:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kingdon@localhost) by panix5.panix.com (8.11.6p2-a/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id i915jCm04704; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 01:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:55:00 -0000 Message-Id: <200410010545.i915jCm04704@panix5.panix.com> From: Jim Kingdon To: mcdonald@phy.cmich.edu Cc: xconq7@sources.redhat.com In-reply-to: <415CC790.7010909@phy.cmich.edu> (message from Eric McDonald on Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:57:20 -0600) Subject: Re: [Offtopic] Re: New Proposed Xconq Web Site Online References: <2462009E-124C-11D9-B87C-000393439120@saugus.net> <200409301707.i8UH7dD06034@panix5.panix.com> <415CC790.7010909@phy.cmich.edu> X-SW-Source: 2004/txt/msg01303.txt.bz2 > Kaj vi povas relerni nur per klopodi. > "And you are able to _____ ____ by/through ____." (?) Hint #1: "relerni" is a compound, "re/lern/i". Hint #2: I could have said "sole" in place of "nur". Not sure I can give a hint on "klopodi"; I don't actually know its etymology. > "do ne konfuzighu" -> "that one must not confuse" -> "that one must be > careful not to make" (??) Hint #1: "konfuzighu" is a compound, "konfuz/igh/u". Hint #2: Esperanto has 6 accented characters, 5 of which are ASCIIfied by adding "h" at the end. One of them appears here. Hint #3: -igh- doesn't have a close English equivalent; you might need some more examples to get it. > I am going to have to figure out "pri"; I have seen it several times now. Vi bezonas lerni pri la vorto "pri". > (1) I have detected no repeated consonants or vowels thus far. The only counterexample I can think of is the one and only one Esperanto word I know of with an irregular spelling, "finna". It's a good reason to use the word "suoma" instead. There might be examples where the last letter of the first part of a compound word is the same as the first letter of the second part, but even that I'm not sure of - it wouldn't be easy to pronounce. Another spelling/pronunciation example is that the word "aeroplano" tends to be avoided by most esperantists I know, in favor of "aviadilo", for reasons of sonority. > (2) I have detected no potential diphthongs thus far. My Esperanto book lists 6 diphthongs. And no, this isn't a trick: a, e, i, o, and u are all monophthongs. Some of the diphthongs are quite common, and have been seen many times in the Esperanto text on the list so far. > I suppose the language is intended to be lexically simple as well as > grammatically simple.... Ho jes. La celo de esperanto estas ke ghi estu simpla. La alia celo estas esti neuxtrala.