From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31624 invoked by alias); 12 Nov 2004 17:37:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact xconq7-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: xconq7-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 31521 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2004 17:37:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gencom001.gencom.us) (208.45.97.81) by sourceware.org with SMTP; 12 Nov 2004 17:37:49 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gencom001.gencom.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id A006E5FE6; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:39:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from gencom001.gencom.us ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gencom001.gencom.us [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01848-01; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:39:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (home [67.171.201.213]) by gencom001.gencom.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F165F91; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:39:02 -0800 (PST) From: "D. Cooper Stevenson" Reply-To: cstevens@gencom.us Organization: GenCom To: xconq7@sources.redhat.com Subject: Re: New Home for Xconq Project? Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 01:19:00 -0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 Cc: Eric McDonald , Stan Shebs References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411121739.38994.cstevens@gencom.us> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gencom001 X-SW-Source: 2004/txt/msg01406.txt.bz2 What would happen if we went to SourceForge or Savannah for "eyballs" and pointed to the Xconq.org or RedHat site for a CVS backup? It's trivial for me to mirror the xconq.org server with the source repository's server. Obviously, this isn't an "automatic failover" solution but would it provide a good compromise? -Coop On Friday 12 November 2004 17:28, Eric McDonald wrote: > Hi Stan, > > Thanks for weighing in. > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Stan Shebs wrote: > > > Over the past few months I have had some discussions with various > > > people about whether the Xconq project should be moved to a new host. > > > > It's certainly worth a serious look. The main advantage of the RH > > sources site is that it's managed by professionals who immediately > > have people all over them if things stop working; it's the same > > machine as hosts GCC, and you can imagine the urgency when the GCC > > sources are no longer available. > > I seem to recall that one of the outages was for more than 10 > hours. Presumably this was hardware-related, but it raises > questions about clustering, redundancy, and whatnot.... > > >Many sites with that level of > > activity wish they only went down twice in a year! > > This is true. > > > I'm not really up-to-date on the alternate hosting options though. > > Sourceforge was pretty abysmal when I tried to check out a project > > some months ago; most cvs updates simply failed to complete and timed > > out. > > Good to note. > > >Savannah used to have a problem with its admins disappearing > > without telling anybody, dunno if that's gotten better. They also > > tend to be more ideological about freeness, although I don't think > > that's an issue for any part of Xconq. > > Yeah. They also had a significant security breach back near the > end of last year, IIRC. The only reason why I might favor them is > that their set of tools is more familiar to me. Sourceforge (which > I investigated a few nights ago) does things differently (which > does not imply that their way is inferior): their trackers and > file release system, to name a couple of examples. > > However, Sourceforge is at least an order of magnitude larger > than Savannah, I think. > > I will see about putting my development branch of the Xconq > sources on Sourceforge in the way of making a trial of it. If > things go well, then we could move the Xconq mainline branch > there at a later point, if we wanted to. > > Thanks, > Eric