From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5378 invoked by alias); 3 Oct 2004 18:49:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact xconq7-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: xconq7-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 5370 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2004 18:49:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rwcrmhc11.comcast.net) (204.127.198.35) by sourceware.org with SMTP; 3 Oct 2004 18:49:21 -0000 Received: from [192.168.181.128] (c-67-172-156-222.client.comcast.net[67.172.156.222]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004100318492001300c6756e>; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 18:49:20 +0000 Message-ID: <416049AE.1020801@phy.cmich.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:55:00 -0000 From: Eric McDonald User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Kingdon CC: xconq7@sources.redhat.com Subject: Re: New Proposed Xconq Web Site Online References: <200410010555.i915tAn05390@panix5.panix.com> <415E0BED.6080105@phy.cmich.edu> <200410031559.i93Fxag11465@panix5.panix.com> <41603B5E.1090509@phy.cmich.edu> <200410031836.i93IaX021511@panix5.panix.com> In-Reply-To: <200410031836.i93IaX021511@panix5.panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2004/txt/msg01331.txt.bz2 Jim Kingdon wrote: >>Unless there is multi-platform, lightweight rendering API that can >>take a list of Pango glyphs (which I am led to believe is what comes >>out of the far end of the Pango pipeline) and actually draw them on >>the display, I am not sure how much use it would be to us. > > It is possible that http://sdlpango.sourceforge.net/ is such a thing. > Although that page seemed to describe lots of issues, without quite > saying just what SDL_Pango does. I looked at their code example. It appears to be just what I had in mind. It takes a Pango context (containing the glyphs) and draws it onto a SDL surface. Perfect. Case closed. >>Possibly. But, I have previously mentioned the possibility of writing >>labels in runic alphabets (both historical and fictitious): > > It is the kind of thing which wouldn't be off the shelf. But using > Unicode's private character numbers and writing yourself a font which > the usual UTF-8 tools can process might be just as easy as doing > everything from scratch. Ah, I forgot about the private character numbers in Unicode. I think that this solves the abovementioned problem. Good thought. > Of course the real point of using something like Pango would be if we > want to deal with arabic, thai, bidirectional, and the other > complicated cases. Sure. Based on the info you just provided, it looks like we can cover both the internationalization issue (for people who want to use SDL Xconq in a language other than en_US), and the game designer-specified labels issue. Thanks, Eric