* Progress with ParaGUI @ 2004-11-07 16:12 Eric McDonald 2004-11-07 19:29 ` D. Cooper Stevenson 2004-11-07 20:21 ` Progress with ParaGUI Tom Low-Shang 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Eric McDonald @ 2004-11-07 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: xconq7 Hello Xconq Developers, I am making good progress in preparing Xconq to use the ParaGUI toolkit for the SDL interface. The Linux side of things is essentially taken care of; I have already made RPM packages for ParaGUI. Most of the Windows preparation went pretty smoothly. I have had to fight a few compilation issues here and there, but I think that things are almost taken care of. I will try to finish up that battle later today so that I can go ahead and create a Windows installer for the ParaGUI libraries and headers (for developers and others who are interested in building the soon-to-be SDL/ParaGUI interface from sources). I have already documented where existing Windows installers for the various ParaGUI dependencies can be found (and the recommended way to use them), and I will make that document available later today after I get some sleep. Regular players and game designers should not notice much change with the SDL interface, at least not until next weekend. Regards, Eric ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Progress with ParaGUI 2004-11-07 16:12 Progress with ParaGUI Eric McDonald @ 2004-11-07 19:29 ` D. Cooper Stevenson 2004-11-08 3:04 ` Eric McDonald 2004-11-07 20:21 ` Progress with ParaGUI Tom Low-Shang 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: D. Cooper Stevenson @ 2004-11-07 19:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: xconq7 Dear Eric, Your SDL progress is really tops; canning the SDL library installation process is no mean feat. this is because once you have the ParaGUI setup "canned" for the platforms then the rest is history; an application designer need only think about the SDL interface when designing for Xconq. Noteably, This helps confirm what I had suspected regarding the "noise level" this last week: it was quiet because we all had our heads down working! I will create a setup document as soon as the tarball is out of the oven. Note to Elijah: please consider warming up the controls on your "publicity engine" over the next couple of weeks as it looks like we're making good progress at least three fronts: SDL, graphics, and GIS. If there's anything you need here, please let me know. Don't worry about bandwidth; I have it covered. Also, would you please send Gpeterz an email on my behalf and let him know that I think his unit portrait artwork is excellent? In short, when I think about the progress we're making it makes me shake my head a little and thing, "it's a good thing." This is sweet, Eric! -Coop On Sunday 07 November 2004 08:29, Eric McDonald wrote: > Hello Xconq Developers, > > I am making good progress in preparing Xconq to use the ParaGUI > toolkit for the SDL interface. The Linux side of things is essentially > taken care of; I have already made RPM packages for ParaGUI. Most of the > Windows preparation went pretty smoothly. I have had to fight a few > compilation issues here and there, but I think that things are almost > taken care of. I will try to finish up that battle later today so that I > can go ahead and create a Windows installer for the ParaGUI libraries > and headers (for developers and others who are interested in building > the soon-to-be SDL/ParaGUI interface from sources). I have already > documented where existing Windows installers for the various ParaGUI > dependencies can be found (and the recommended way to use them), and I > will make that document available later today after I get some sleep. > > Regular players and game designers should not notice much change with > the SDL interface, at least not until next weekend. > > Regards, > Eric ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Progress with ParaGUI 2004-11-07 19:29 ` D. Cooper Stevenson @ 2004-11-08 3:04 ` Eric McDonald 2004-11-08 5:44 ` Eric McDonald 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Eric McDonald @ 2004-11-08 3:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cstevens; +Cc: xconq7 Hi Coop, D. Cooper Stevenson wrote: > Your SDL progress is really tops; canning the SDL library installation process > is no mean feat. On Windows, at least. It was already pretty much done for me wrt RPM packages; the spec files were already there and so it was trivial to create the packages. > I will create a setup document as soon as the tarball is out of the oven. As far as the RPM packages go, it is just the usual: "rpm -ivh" or "rpm -Uvh", as appropriate. I will upload the source and i586 binary packages later on today, if all goes well. For Windows, I've been making some light documentation as I go along, and it looks something like this (though more detail could be filled in): GnuWin32 Glibc Installation (1) Download Glibc setup (sources not necessary) from: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/libgw32c.htm (2) Run setup program. Change install path from "C:\Program Files\GnuWin32" to wherever you have installed MinGW32 (typically "C:\Mingw"). Note that the GnuWin32 stuff meshes harmlessly (at least on the face of things) with the MinGW32 stuff; this is not particularly surprising, since both are native Win32 libs with non-conflicting names, and which have compatible directory structures. Zlib Installation (1) Download Zlib setup (sources not necessary) from: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/zlib.htm (2) Run setup program. Change install path as above (in the Glibc instructions), if necessary. Libpng Installation (1) Download Libpng setup (sources not necessary) from: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/libpng.htm (2) Run setup program. Change install path as above (in the Glibc instructions), if necessary. Freetype Installation (1) Download Freetype setup (sources not necessary) from: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/freetype.htm (2) Run setup program. Change install path as above (in the Glibc instructions), if necessary. (3) Find the 'freetype2' directory in your 'include' directory. Move the 'freetype' subdirectory of the 'freetype2' directory up one level so that it is in the 'include' directory. Make sure that the 'freetype2' directory is empty, and then delete it. SDL_Image is not necessary at this time. Expat can be (and is, if you use the forthcoming ParaGUI installer) part of ParaGUI's internal implementation. OpenGL is not necessary at this time. I also recorded some notes regarding ParaGUI building, but it is a bit of a mess. And, of course, the MinGW32 sections of the 'doc/INSTALL-win.txt' document are highly relevant, since I have already provided some notes regarding the setup of MinGW32 and SDL. I will provide an installer for the ParaGUI libs and headers, so that folks don't have to play around with the build process like I did. > In short, when I think about the progress we're making it makes me shake my > head a little and thing, "it's a good thing." This is sweet, Eric! Thanks. In spite of all the fights I had with the linker (is it just me, or are "libtoolized" builds almost always more of a hindrance than a help?), I have now successfully built ParaGUI under MinGW32. All that remains is just to package it up in a Windows installer, __my next step. I am very optimistic about the choice of using ParaGUI for the SDL interface, especially now that I played around with some of the ParaGUI test/example programs this afternoon. I think things are going to work out quite well.... Eric P.S. I am going to try to have a fresh source tarball and Windows installer for Xconq available this evening. I have to take care of some ANSI C++ build issues under MinGW32 first. When ready, this will probably be the last prerelease not to have ParaGUI hooked in. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Progress with ParaGUI 2004-11-08 3:04 ` Eric McDonald @ 2004-11-08 5:44 ` Eric McDonald 2004-11-08 13:44 ` GIS Update [Was: Re: Progress with ParaGUI] D. Cooper Stevenson 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Eric McDonald @ 2004-11-08 5:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eric McDonald; +Cc: cstevens, xconq7 Eric McDonald wrote: > Thanks. In spite of all the fights I had with the linker (is it just me, > or are "libtoolized" builds almost always more of a hindrance than a > help?), I have now successfully built ParaGUI under MinGW32. All that > remains is just to package it up in a Windows installer, __my next step. There is going to be a delay. I just had a rather serious mishap with the uninstaller. Don't ask. Eric ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* GIS Update [Was: Re: Progress with ParaGUI] 2004-11-08 5:44 ` Eric McDonald @ 2004-11-08 13:44 ` D. Cooper Stevenson 2004-11-09 3:59 ` Eric McDonald 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: D. Cooper Stevenson @ 2004-11-08 13:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eric McDonald; +Cc: xconq7 On Monday 08 November 2004 03:03, Eric McDonald wrote: > There is going to be a delay. I just had a rather serious mishap with > the uninstaller. Don't ask. That's the worst! :) Hopefully, I can take out a little of the sting by letting you know that I've made good progress with the GIS -> Xconq import scipt. Here's the original landcover image I'm working with (review again): http://wiki.xconqgis.org/images/grass_tutorial/screen12.jpg Here's what I have currently in Xconq: http://wiki.xconqgis.org/images/gis_to_xconq.jpg You can discern the similarities. Everything looks shifted to the right and leaning as Xconq uses the Cartesian oblique coordinate system; I must translate the ascii source file before I write the Xconq terrain file. It's important to note that the Xconq map was automatically created exclusively with my script. I speculate that I may someday have a "map making" web interface. You should be able to simply enter the lat/long of your desired map along with the desired grid size and get the Xconq terrain map and image out. Kind of like an Xconq map vending machine. Documentation/script here (edit the page text to have the script display correctly): http://wiki.xconqgis.org/admin.php?CreatingTerrainScript -Coop ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: GIS Update [Was: Re: Progress with ParaGUI] 2004-11-08 13:44 ` GIS Update [Was: Re: Progress with ParaGUI] D. Cooper Stevenson @ 2004-11-09 3:59 ` Eric McDonald 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Eric McDonald @ 2004-11-09 3:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cstevens; +Cc: xconq7 D. Cooper Stevenson wrote: >>There is going to be a delay. I just had a rather serious mishap with >>the uninstaller. Don't ask. > > > That's the worst! :) Well, if I had shipped the installer without testing the uninstaller, then things could have been much worse. There would have been a lynch mob formed out of any MinGW32 users who had used the uninstaller. I copied the installer script that I made for Xconq, and edited it for ParaGUI. Problem is that I forgot to remove: RMDir /r $INSTPATH and with the ParaGUI installer, the default install path is "C:\MinGW" rather than, say, "C:\Program Files\Xconq". Fortunately, I still had all the installer and tarballs for my MinGW32 installation on hand, and so I was able to reverse the damage in about 45 minutes after the "incident". But then, I decided to go to bed. > Here's the original landcover image I'm working with (review again): > > http://wiki.xconqgis.org/images/grass_tutorial/screen12.jpg > > Here's what I have currently in Xconq: > > http://wiki.xconqgis.org/images/gis_to_xconq.jpg That definitely looks like progress. Good work. > It's important to note that the Xconq map was automatically created > exclusively with my script. This is good. > Kind of like an Xconq map vending machine. :-) > Documentation/script here (edit the page text to have the script display > correctly): > > http://wiki.xconqgis.org/admin.php?CreatingTerrainScript FYI, it is asking for an username/password. Might make things difficult to view for those who don't have edit privs.... Regards, Eric ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Progress with ParaGUI 2004-11-07 16:12 Progress with ParaGUI Eric McDonald 2004-11-07 19:29 ` D. Cooper Stevenson @ 2004-11-07 20:21 ` Tom Low-Shang 2004-11-07 23:44 ` Eric McDonald 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Tom Low-Shang @ 2004-11-07 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: xconq7 On Sun, Nov 07, 2004 at 01:29:30AM -0700, Eric McDonald wrote: > Hello Xconq Developers, > > I am making good progress in preparing Xconq to use the ParaGUI > toolkit for the SDL interface. The Linux side of things is essentially > taken care of; I have already made RPM packages for ParaGUI. Debian has packages in testing and unstable branches for paragui 1.0.4. Will this version be sufficient for xconq? -- Tom Low-Shang \ Toronto, Canada Software Developer / 416 321 1394 * Embedded Systems \ tlow@low-shang.homelinux.com * Industrial Automation / ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Progress with ParaGUI 2004-11-07 20:21 ` Progress with ParaGUI Tom Low-Shang @ 2004-11-07 23:44 ` Eric McDonald 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Eric McDonald @ 2004-11-07 23:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tom Low-Shang; +Cc: xconq7 Tom Low-Shang wrote: >> I am making good progress in preparing Xconq to use the ParaGUI >>toolkit for the SDL interface. The Linux side of things is essentially >>taken care of; I have already made RPM packages for ParaGUI. > > Debian has packages in testing and unstable branches for paragui > 1.0.4. Will this version be sufficient for xconq? Yes. 1.0.4 is the latest stable version of that toolkit, and is, in fact, what I am planning on building the Xconq SDL interface against. There is too much change taking place in their development branch (currently at version 1.1.8). Regards, Eric ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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