From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14045 invoked by alias); 11 Jan 2004 16:48:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact xconq7-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: xconq7-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 14035 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2004 16:48:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccrmhc13.comcast.net) (204.127.202.64) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2004 16:48:02 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.204] (h0003931fd7a8.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.61.102.22]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <2004011116480101600pjnsfe>; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:48:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) To: xconq7@sources.redhat.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-1043200849; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" From: Feneric Brown Subject: RE: HW requirements Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:48:00 -0000 X-SW-Source: 2004/txt/msg00058.txt.bz2 --Apple-Mail-2-1043200849 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-length: 1254 > How many people use VT100 any more? You'd be surprised. I do the maintenance at a company that provides a number of shell accounts to customers. The users typically fall into one or more of the following groups: 1. Sophisticated users / designers who want a decent UNIX-like environment with fairly up-to-date tools without having to maintain it or handle the updating themselves; 2. Users who are blind and have all output redirected through either a reader box or a Braille hand reader; 3. Users who are opposed to the upgrade cycle and who (often for philosophical as well as financial reasons) have chosen to freeze their hardware at a certain level that handles their own requirements (the C128 is popular, but there are other makes & models that are also used); 4. Sophisticated users who choose to route all their e-mail through a system including combinations of things like Procmail, SpamAssassin, JunkFilter, TMDA, Pine, Mutt, etc. in order to largely sidestep the issues of spam and virii that so plague the modern world. We maintain a bunch of games on the system, and I'd have to say that Cconq (the VT100 version of Xconq) remains one of the most popular, right up there with NetHack and the various IF titles. --Apple-Mail-2-1043200849 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-length: 3209 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEH AQAAoIIGGDCCAtEwggI6oAMCAQICAws+AzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkg THRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3Vp bmcgQ0EwHhcNMDMxMTMwMjI1MjMwWhcNMDQxMTI5MjI1MjMwWjBEMR8wHQYD VQQDExZUaGF3dGUgRnJlZW1haWwgTWVtYmVyMSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJm ZW5lcmljQHNhdWd1cy5uZXQwggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEK AoIBAQCyXWm9gAH+Nhdd95xMjalq9RvMACxiLvoc8tmXVoej+oHRPMnS2/eU aP8YzQKwoRJ3nh0faOIWtZMHuRtnnpdWHYMfkZvWyeT/Wo1dkx9zIpgznJ2j ONFI4VRepkaX6rFz4rvjNTUkrhEKGusoF1BwN5dabEhbBxF68PKSKJRraOz+ E0SmzfsmDa1NWxFNMSYr4LeX2yT8hRZWrZ/dM//oA2JP18ucgikKkJYygJwC VLkL84xb5fKpOP1097E392PFFgj8N1tZGZcvJofxXZrS6yEWlfhbTJ+g9FII H5JNvPsQaLOVDQ/Haeg9Ec9Y2uaZDZ3pOYxs2NiwY6s62dInAgMBAAGjLzAt MB0GA1UdEQQWMBSBEmZlbmVyaWNAc2F1Z3VzLm5ldDAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAA MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GBAHqHv8/H0xHMxf0nGZAg54z3jbgSrW1ScHJ+ BtC1SaMIcXpUXvcs4ikw+GWO1e0ADrAWtBwOBHjqpCM1nIkStkDsGiw04/72 FCmXcIHaHXQwDdLadYS5LRtzF/qb7IXaDMgK+mc5p2FYlBrfG9Jixzml303N PZ4NuqiXzWH4/lveMIIDPzCCAqigAwIBAgIBDTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCB 0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UE BxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYG A1UECxMfQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEkMCIGA1UE AxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkB FhxwZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMB4XDTAzMDcxNzAwMDAw MFoXDTEzMDcxNjIzNTk1OVowYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRo YXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUA A4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpjxVc1X7TrnKmVoeaMB1BHCd3+n/ox7svc31W/Iadr1/ DDph8r9RzgHU5VAKMNcCY1osiRVwjt3J8CuFWqo/cVbLrzwLB+fxH5E2JCoT zyvV84J3PQO+K/67GD4Hv0CAAmTXp6a7n2XRxSpUhQ9IBH+nttE8YQRAHmQZ cmC3+wIDAQABo4GUMIGRMBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAwQwYDVR0fBDww OjA4oDagNIYyaHR0cDovL2NybC50aGF3dGUuY29tL1RoYXd0ZVBlcnNvbmFs RnJlZW1haWxDQS5jcmwwCwYDVR0PBAQDAgEGMCkGA1UdEQQiMCCkHjAcMRow GAYDVQQDExFQcml2YXRlTGFiZWwyLTEzODANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQBI jNFQg+oLLswNo2asZw9/r6y+whehQ5aUnX9MIbj4Nh+qLZ82L8D0HFAgk3A8 /a3hYWLD2ToZfoSxmRsAxRoLgnSeJVCUYsfbJ3FXJY3dqZw5jowgT2Vfldr3 94fWxghOrvbqNOUQGls1TXfjViF4gtwhGTXeJLHTHUb/XV9lTzGCAucwggLj AgEBMGkwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0 aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVl bWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAgMLPgMwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCCAVMwGAYJKoZIhvcN AQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUxDxcNMDQwMTExMTY0ODAx WjAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxFgQUKt9IvDWSWJEH05r/T22Ldx/r/LUweAYJKwYB BAGCNxAEMWswaTBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENv bnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFs IEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECAws+AzB6BgsqhkiG9w0BCRACCzFroGkw YjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQ dHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJ c3N1aW5nIENBAgMLPgMwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEggEAnHo+4sNxfW7h6yip 6iOZS1UcMosVOWChutpKchqxTY2CcZhLpwyRfgfDDeOOhYfddtGzDlTKX5rp MhGdRiUoSyZh+bOayCCQsR867SofTpU5scrLljpTEZjYPBS0z4DHwAbCXri9 bIlZlk5iIW8ZTjpvx3fvqKW4qf2Nc1aERUniMQMxMDWF8F7F62hoBFJ5Y8ZV YwAcmxwf2arey7s/2dzA3PzAvP+V78RmRsCEjLGcD19Mcsos89PucFREI6Ou cqo+Iz69dlqfztkymWuNhOnos6Y9/oxpNTbEk7+olzoiDZkWLJ1Ni0lajbtw 8gY/gPChowb/mWK36PKPhRy2MAAAAAAAAA== --Apple-Mail-2-1043200849--