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From: "Brandon J. Van Every" <vanevery@indiegamedesign.com>
To: "xconq" <xconq7@sources.redhat.com>
Subject: RE: OT Python stuff (was RE: Python in Xconq)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:14:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <OOEALCJCKEBJBIJHCNJDIEACGMAB.vanevery@indiegamedesign.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031119153130.GM387@adlp.org>

Bruno Boettcher wrote:
>
> uhm perl-gtk, perl-tk?

There is also Py + tk, pygtk, pySDL, pyKyra... basically Python has all
those typical bindings too.

Everyone is going to have their favorite language.  If we can't settle
on someone else's language, then we need interop capabilities.

Which furthermore implies an architecture where that's possible /
reasonable without pouring blood on the table.  I think a major
OO-ification of the code base needs to happen to make it usable /
extensible to people who aren't intimately familiar with it already.  We
need an OO migration path.  Nobody has the resources to swallow the
problem all at once, there are hundreds and hundreds of functions to
contend with.

Eric McDonald wrote:
>
> (1) Richard mentioned to me yesterday that each additional piece
> of external software that becomes an Xconq dependency is an
> additional annoyance. If you build tkconq then you need Tcl/Tk,
> and if you build sdlconq then you need SDL. Do we really want to
> say that we also need Perl (which is fairly ubiquitous on Linux,
> but not necessarily so on other platforms) or Python (which is
> admittedly a nice language, but still not as widespread as Perl,
> AFAICT)?

If you are a developer, and there are docs on how to install all these
packages, and they actually work, then you have no buisiness
complaining.

If you are a game player, then everything has to install as one big app,
so that people don't have to chase it.  Python has to be embedded, Perl
has to be embedded, TCL has to be embedded....


Cheers,
Brandon

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-11-19 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-17 15:42 Marketing Xconq? Bill Macon
2003-11-17 18:55 ` Marketing Xconq? + battle isle suggestion Andreas Bringedal
2003-11-17 22:04   ` better Windows UI Brandon J. Van Every
2003-11-18  3:12     ` Erik Jessen
2003-11-17 21:56 ` Marketing Xconq? Eric McDonald
2003-11-17 22:38   ` Brandon J. Van Every
2003-11-18  3:15     ` Erik Jessen
2003-11-18  3:39       ` New Interpreter (was RE: Marketing Xconq?) Eric McDonald
2003-11-18  4:01         ` Erik Jessen
2003-11-18  4:05           ` Eric McDonald
2003-11-18 10:37             ` setgid (was: RE: New Interpreter (was RE: Marketing Xconq?)) Lincoln Peters
2003-11-18 15:52               ` Jim Kingdon
2003-11-18  5:17       ` Python in Xconq Brandon J. Van Every
2003-11-18 11:33         ` Erik Jessen
2003-11-18 13:37           ` OT Python stuff (was RE: Python in Xconq) Mark A. Flacy
2003-11-19 15:08             ` Erik Jessen
2003-11-19 16:44               ` Bruno Boettcher
2003-11-19 17:58                 ` Eric McDonald
2003-11-19 21:18                   ` GDL, XML and others...Re: " Jakob Ilves
2003-11-19 23:13                     ` Brandon J. Van Every
2003-11-20  5:12                     ` Eric McDonald
2003-11-20  8:54                       ` Bruno Boettcher
2003-11-20 11:01                         ` Jakob Ilves
2003-11-20 11:19                           ` Brandon J. Van Every
2003-11-20 12:59                             ` Jakob Ilves
2003-11-20 13:54                               ` One Hex Combat Resolution, and jeweled teeth Brandon J. Van Every
2003-11-20 17:06                                 ` Eric E Moore
2003-11-20 17:37                                   ` Jakob Ilves
2003-11-20 17:47                                     ` Emmanuel Fritsch
2003-11-20 19:53                                     ` Eric E Moore
2003-11-21  2:16                                   ` Eric McDonald
2003-11-21  3:03                                     ` What is Python really good for? Brandon J. Van Every
2003-11-20 11:36                           ` GDL, XML and others...Re: OT Python stuff (was RE: Python in Xconq) Bruno Boettcher
2003-11-20  4:38                   ` Erik Jessen
2003-11-20 10:19                     ` cheating Brandon J. Van Every
2003-11-21  1:46                       ` cheating Eric McDonald
2003-11-21  2:32                         ` cheating Brandon J. Van Every
2003-11-21  9:30                           ` Managing "Designers disgust". cheating Jakob Ilves
2003-11-21  9:33                             ` Brandon J. Van Every
2003-11-21 12:36                               ` Jakob Ilves
2003-11-21 14:28                                 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2003-11-19 22:14                 ` Brandon J. Van Every [this message]
2003-11-20  3:10                 ` OT Python stuff (was RE: Python in Xconq) Erik Jessen
2003-11-18  1:13   ` Marketing Xconq? Dr Eric Edward Moore
2003-11-18  1:31     ` Eric McDonald
2003-11-18  2:34       ` Lincoln Peters
2003-11-18  3:11         ` Eric McDonald

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