From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15923 invoked by alias); 8 Nov 2003 02:55:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact xconq7-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: xconq7-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 15913 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2003 02:55:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO outbound28-2.lax.untd.com) (64.136.28.160) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2003 02:55:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 9651 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2003 02:55:25 -0000 Received: from 66-52-242-53.sttl.dial.netzero.com (HELO vangogh) (66.52.242.53) by smtp01.lax.untd.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2003 02:55:25 -0000 From: "Brandon J. Van Every" To: "xconq" Subject: RE: Standardizing the Windows build Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 02:57:00 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-SW-Source: 2003/txt/msg00604.txt.bz2 From: Eric McDonald [mailto:mcdonald@phy.cmich.edu] > > > The policy should be, "We do this, we stress test it, and > > we know that it works. > > If you wish to volunteer to be the person who upholds that policy, > then please be my guest. Let's find out if everyone / anyone else wants me to be "the guest." While we're at it, let's find out if there are any Windoze developers here? > > 'Cept me. Why should I support a Windoze build that nobody > > else will stress test and develop with? > > I ask myself the same question. > > >I shouldn't. > > Then why should I? You seem to be complaining that we didn't do > this for you, when you yourself wouldn't do it for others. It's like this. I'll build the standard environment if everyone agrees to the standard, follows the standard, and the Windoze developers stress test the standard. (Are there any??) I'm not going to do it if one person says "I want it this way," another says "no, I want it that way!" and nothing I build actually gets stress tested. And finally, if I am to take ownership of it, VS .NET 2003 has to be the primary build environment. Life is too short to screw around with all the other kinds of pain. There will have to be a Cygwin or MinGW custom build step, but VS .NET 2003 is The Right Way Going Forwards to do mainstream Windoze development. Cheers, www.indiegamedesign.com Brandon Van Every Seattle, WA Taking risk where others will not.