From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24607 invoked by alias); 20 Nov 2003 09:33:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact xconq7-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: xconq7-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 24596 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2003 09:33:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO outbound28-2.lax.untd.com) (64.136.28.160) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2003 09:33:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 18228 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2003 09:33:13 -0000 Received: from 66-52-241-156.sttl.dial.netzero.com (HELO vangogh) (66.52.241.156) by smtpout03.lax.untd.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2003 09:33:13 -0000 From: "Brandon J. Van Every" To: "xconq" Subject: growth agendas and OO Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:45:00 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: X-SW-Source: 2003/txt/msg00831.txt.bz2 Eric McDonald wrote: > > Of course this totally overlooks the segment of developers that > have both the drive and the talent, but have made other career > choices that they find more fulfilling, __who simply work on a > project as a hobby in their meager free time. Yes, I suppose that is true. But the proof is in the pudding, right? Like I said, show me the freeware projects with the AAA production values. I've never seen one, and I suspect they're few and far between if they exist at all. It matters naught if someone actually has the talent to produce all the eye candy, if instead they apply their hobbyist talents to AI code. Priorities are priorities, time outlays are time outlays. > > Infrastructure should be built for people who are > > *actually* using it, as they actually *need* it. > > Could it be?! He _finally_ gets it! Now he understands why there > was no red carpet and royal fanfare waiting for him wrt the > Windows build process. Amazing, he _finally_ gets it.... Do you understand why Xconq won't get any bigger without certain infrastructural layouts? This is quite late in technological history to be doing C code. But... some have a growth agenda, and others don't. If you want to see a project with a real growth agenda, check out http://nebuladevice.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Nebula/WebHome That's project management for growth. Now admittedly, it's not a fair comparision. There's a company still driving a lot of Nebula's development, even though they license the engine BSD style. But the point is, you get external investments in proportion to how easy you make it for others to join your project and contribute to it. I am willing to contribute to the OO-ification of Xconq, if you want to pursue that agenda. If you think that agenda is misguided, then it's best to find out now. Cheers, www.indiegamedesign.com Brandon Van Every Seattle, WA Taking risk where others will not.