From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18888 invoked by alias); 20 Nov 2003 02:47:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact xconq7-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: xconq7-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 18872 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2003 02:47:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO garm.central.cmich.local) (141.209.15.48) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2003 02:47:45 -0000 Received: from leon.phy.cmich.edu ([141.209.165.20]) by egate1.central.cmich.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:47:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by leon.phy.cmich.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E3E7001D for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:47:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:57:00 -0000 From: Eric McDonald To: xconq Subject: Re: Xconq UI thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2003 02:47:44.0339 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC68C230:01C3AF10] X-SW-Source: 2003/txt/msg00822.txt.bz2 > And not to state this unfairly, but there's a developer breeding > mechanism at work in such things. People who really value AAA > production values, and who are capable of producing them, move on and > find a way to make those things in commercial products. People who > don't, generally stay behind in hobbyist freeware projects like Xconq. > I'd love any pointers to specific exceptions that break the general > rule. But from where I sit, the people with the drive and talent to > produce what you're suggesting, generally aren't available as volunteer > labor. Of course this totally overlooks the segment of developers that have both the drive and the talent, but have made other career choices that they find more fulfilling, __who simply work on a project as a hobby in their meager free time. > > (Programmers love keyboards, but see #4.) > > No, not all of them do. I hate 'em. This explains much.... > Infrastructure should be built for people who are *actually* using it, > as they actually *need* it. Could it be?! He _finally_ gets it! Now he understands why there was no red carpet and royal fanfare waiting for him wrt the Windows build process. Amazing, he _finally_ gets it....