From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6720 invoked by alias); 1 Oct 2004 18:35:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact xconq7-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: xconq7-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 6594 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2004 18:35:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ob2.cmich.edu) (141.209.20.21) by sourceware.org with SMTP; 1 Oct 2004 18:35:05 -0000 Received: from egate1.central.cmich.local ([141.209.15.85]) by ob2.cmich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i91ISO41003260; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:28:24 -0400 Received: from leon.phy.cmich.edu ([141.209.165.20]) by egate1.central.cmich.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:35:00 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leon.phy.cmich.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D1D7001E; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 18:37:00 -0000 From: Eric McDonald To: Jim Kingdon Cc: xconq7@sources.redhat.com Subject: Re: [Offtopic] Re: New Proposed Xconq Web Site Online In-Reply-To: <200410010545.i915jCm04704@panix5.panix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2004 18:35:00.0925 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C3086D0:01C4A7E5] X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-Spam-Score: -0.9 () X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) X-SW-Source: 2004/txt/msg01314.txt.bz2 On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Jim Kingdon wrote: > > Kaj vi povas relerni nur per klopodi. > > "And you are able to _____ ____ by/through ____." (?) > > Hint #1: "relerni" is a compound, "re/lern/i". > Hint #2: I could have said "sole" in place of "nur". > Not sure I can give a hint on "klopodi"; I don't actually know its > etymology. "And you are able to relearn only by using/exercising/doing." (??) (I am trying to figure out if that makes sense in the context of the sentence before it.) I figured the "re" was probably the prefix with the usual meaning. I held back because of a counterexample from Latin: "republic" which comes from "res" and "publica" (thing of the public/people). > > "do ne konfuzighu" -> "that one must not confuse" -> "that one must be > > careful not to make" (??) > > Hint #1: "konfuzighu" is a compound, "konfuz/igh/u". > Hint #2: Esperanto has 6 accented characters, 5 of which are ASCIIfied > by adding "h" at the end. One of them appears here. > Hint #3: -igh- doesn't have a close English equivalent; you might need > some more examples to get it. Does "gh" make "zh" sound like with French "j" or "g" (in places)? My guess is that "igh" is a participle stem, probably for "ed" or "ing". I think I saw which it was in an earlier text. I will have to look more closely again tonight. > > I am going to have to figure out "pri"; I have seen it several times now. > Vi bezonas lerni pri la vorto "pri". "You ____ to learn of/from the word 'pri'." (I will have to look at the other samples of "pri" usage again tonight.) > > (1) I have detected no repeated consonants or vowels thus far. > The only counterexample I can think of is the one and only one > Esperanto word I know of with an irregular spelling, "finna". It's a > good reason to use the word "suoma" instead. Is that the people or the language? With "japana", I could not tell if it was the country or the language. Also what about the Lapps who are reindeer herders among the "finna"; do they get to keep their double-p? > > (2) I have detected no potential diphthongs thus far. > My Esperanto book lists 6 diphthongs. And no, this isn't a trick: a, > e, i, o, and u are all monophthongs. Some of the diphthongs are quite > common, and have been seen many times in the Esperanto text on the > list so far. I'll look again. I wasn't paying close attention to that aspect. > > I suppose the language is intended to be lexically simple as well as > > grammatically simple.... > > Ho jes. La celo de esperanto estas ke ghi estu simpla. La alia celo > estas esti neuxtrala. "Oh yes. The point/reason/purpose of Esperanto is that it must be simple. The other point/reason/purpose is to be neutral." Eric