From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28614 invoked by alias); 17 Dec 2004 19:17:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact xconq7-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: xconq7-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 28530 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2004 19:17:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ob2.cmich.edu) (141.209.20.21) by sourceware.org with SMTP; 17 Dec 2004 19:17:31 -0000 Received: from egate1.central.cmich.local ([141.209.15.85]) by ob2.cmich.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBHK9VB0005764; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:10:08 -0500 Received: from leon.phy.cmich.edu ([141.209.165.20]) by egate1.central.cmich.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:17:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leon.phy.cmich.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3E67002C; Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:17:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 03:11:00 -0000 From: Eric McDonald To: "Mark A. Flacy" Cc: xconq7 Subject: Re: SDL interface thoughts In-Reply-To: <87zn0cvp5c.fsf@comcast.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2004 19:17:28.0513 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C7A5B10:01C4E46D] X-Spam-Score: -0.9 () X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 X-SW-Source: 2004/txt/msg01479.txt.bz2 Hi Mark, On 17 Dec 2004, Mark A. Flacy wrote: > Yeah, last release June 2004. Old indeed. I was referring to how long Slackware has been around, and not when the last release was. To be honest, I was pleasantly surprised to discover that at least 1 person was still using it. In my perception, the distro faded alot after the Slackware vs. Redhat debate of the mid-90's. Other distros such as Suse, Mandrake, and Debian seemed to displace it in the competition with Redhat. > I'm sure that RPMs go over real well with the Debian crowd too. Well, if there is some implication that I am RPM-centric, the truth is that I'm not. If you look through the list archives, you can find several places where I expressed a desire to find packagers for not only other Linux distros, but the BSD's and other Unixes as well. I also said that I would look into making debs myself, if someone could not be found to do it. As it turns out, the present maintainer of the Xconq 7.4.1 packages for Debian has volunteered to make packages for 7.5.0, once it is released. There was also some talk about making Gentoo ebuilds of the CVS snapshots that I occasionally release on Sourceforge. The reason why Xconq has RPM packages of its prereleases is quite simple: (1) I develop on a Fedora Core system; I used to develop on a Mandrake 8/9 system. Both distros use the Redhat package manager. It is a matter of convenience to release RPM packages. (2) I have not yet had time to develop the necessary packager files for things such as Debian or Gentoo (or Slackware). It is on my list of things to do. > As a Slackware user myself, I don't expect you to provide Slackware > packages. I would expect the source tar balls to be fairly straightforward > to build, with perhaps some dependency information in the README or in the > autoconf messages. If "./configure --help" is a bit too concise, please let me know what sort of additional documentation would be nice. I think that 'doc/INSTALL' also talks about the config options, but it hasn't been updated in a while. > You may wish to look at http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ if you > ever were to start creating other distribution's packages for XConq. It > can make RPMs too, for that matter. Thanks for the URL. I will look at it tonight. I would still be concerned about testing the packages on the other distros though. Eric P.S. I haven't forgotten the Forth implementation that you (IIRC) suggested for a Xconq interpreter last year. Seeing as Xconq doesn't have as many developers as it could have, I've been far too busy with other things to give it any more consideration.