From: Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>
To: WANG Xuerui <i.swmail@xen0n.name>
Cc: Xi Ruoyao <xry111@xry111.site>,
liuzhensong <liuzhensong@loongson.cn>,
binutils@sourceware.org, xuchenghua@loongson.cn,
mengqinggang@loongson.cn
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5 v1] LoongArch: bfd: Add new reloc types.
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2022 20:57:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220719035758.lshojc63snxcq6g2@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <417f93f5-64ca-9eb1-c338-b55edfd8eb83@xen0n.name>
On 2022-07-18, WANG Xuerui wrote:
>On 2022/7/18 19:33, Xi Ruoyao wrote:
>>On Mon, 2022-07-18 at 18:06 +0800, WANG Xuerui wrote:
>>>(Adding Ruoyao and MaskRay to CC, who might be interested in this
>>>development as well, as it concerns the linker implementation.)
>>I've already subscribed binutils@sourceware.org in order not to be
>>passed by.
I am subscribed, too. Direct CC helps me find the discussions:)
>>>I think I've voiced my concerns over the naming of these ops multiple
>>>times already; the primary comment ([1]; in English) was posted back in
>>>May but no one in your team responded.
>>>
>>>Reproducing the content (and adjusting a little) here:
>>>
>>>
>>>Overall in a good direction (and IMHO the direction everyone should have
>>>taken in the first place), thanks!
>>>
>>Yes, we've been paying additional costs using those "stack based
>>relocation". I'd like to know why they were proposed in first place?
>>(Not accusing anyone, just my curiosity: AFAIK no other targets ever
>>used such a stack for relocation.)
>As previously pointed out on this list, rx and rl78 both use
>stack-based relocs. (Both come from Renesas, so I do think it's
>delibrate design decision, but of course the original Renesas
>justification is most probably buried in history.) I explained this in
>https://github.com/loongson/binutils-gdb/issues/134 before.
Stack machines aren't really suitable for ELF relocations.
Each relocation takes sizeof(Elf64_Rela) = 24 byte, higher than older
object file formats.
ELF32 allows 256 relocation types. There aren't too many to waste.
>>
>>/* snip */
>>
>>
>>>FYI, I did make a list of my suggested names for these reloc types
>>>("BFD_RELOC_LARCH_" abbreviated to "B_R_L_"):
>>>
>>>Original name Suggested name
>>>------------- --------------
>>>B_R_L_B16 B_R_L_PCREL_SK16 *1
>>>B_R_L_B21 B_R_L_PCREL_SD5K16
>>>B_R_L_B26 B_R_L_PCREL_SD10K16
>>>B_R_L_ABS_LO12 B_R_L_ABS_0_SK12
>>>B_R_L_ABS_HI20 B_R_L_ABS_12_SJ20
>>>B_R_L_ABS64_LO20 B_R_L_ABS_32_SJ20
>>>B_R_L_ABS64_HI12 B_R_L_ABS_52_SK12
aarch64 calls these G0/G1/G2/G3 while ppc calls these LO/HI/HIGHER/HIGHEST.
A name mentioning the offset and the length looks good to me, too.
A too-long name may have problems in the default (non-wide) output of
readelf -r.
>>>B_R_L_PCALA_LO12 B_R_L_PCALA_0_SK12 *2
>>>B_R_L_PCALA_HI20 B_R_L_PCALA_12_SJ20
>>>B_R_L_PCALA64_LO20 B_R_L_PCALA_32_SJ20 *3
>>>B_R_L_PCALA64_HI12 B_R_L_PCALA_52_SK12
>>>B_R_L_GOT_PC_LO12 B_R_L_GOT_PCALA_0_SK12 *4
>>>B_R_L_GOT_PC_HI20 B_R_L_GOT_PCALA_12_SJ20
>>>B_R_L_GOT64_PC_LO20 B_R_L_GOT_PCALA_32_SJ20
>>>B_R_L_GOT64_PC_HI12 B_R_L_GOT_PCALA_52_SK12
>>>B_R_L_GOT64_LO12 B_R_L_GOT_ABS_0_SK12 *5
>>>B_R_L_GOT64_HI20 B_R_L_GOT_ABS_12_SJ20
>>>B_R_L_GOT64_LO20 B_R_L_GOT_ABS_32_SJ20
>>>B_R_L_GOT64_HI12 B_R_L_GOT_ABS_52_SK12
>>>B_R_L_TLS_LE_LO12 B_R_L_TLS_LE_ABS_0_SK12
>>>B_R_L_TLS_LE_HI20 B_R_L_TLS_LE_ABS_12_SJ20
>>>B_R_L_TLS_LE64_LO20 B_R_L_TLS_LE_ABS_32_SJ20
>>>B_R_L_TLS_LE64_HI12 B_R_L_TLS_LE_ABS_52_SK12
>>>B_R_L_TLS_IE_PC_LO12 B_R_L_TLS_IE_PCALA_0_SK12
>>>B_R_L_TLS_IE_PC_HI20 B_R_L_TLS_IE_PCALA_12_SJ20
>>>B_R_L_TLS_IE64_PC_LO20 B_R_L_TLS_IE_PCALA_32_SJ20
>>>B_R_L_TLS_IE64_PC_HI12 B_R_L_TLS_IE_PCALA_52_SK12
>>>B_R_L_TLS_IE64_LO12 B_R_L_TLS_IE_ABS_0_SK12
>>>B_R_L_TLS_IE64_HI20 B_R_L_TLS_IE_ABS_12_SJ20
>>>B_R_L_TLS_IE64_LO20 B_R_L_TLS_IE_ABS_32_SJ20
>>>B_R_L_TLS_IE64_HI12 B_R_L_TLS_IE_ABS_52_SK12
>>>B_R_L_TLS_LD_PC_HI20 B_R_L_TLS_LD_PCALA_12_SJ20 *6
>>>B_R_L_TLS_LD64_HI20 B_R_L_TLS_LD_ABS_12_SJ20
>>>B_R_L_TLS_GD_PC_HI20 B_R_L_TLS_GD_PCALA_12_SJ20
>>>B_R_L_TLS_GD64_HI20 B_R_L_TLS_GD_ABS_12_SJ20
aarch64 relocation types are well named. It's obvious what suppress
overflow checking.
For LO12, I expect that there are two variants: one with overflow check,
the other without.
>>It's overall better, but those "J, K" etc are cryptic IMHO. And for
>>"B_R_L_B16" I think "B_R_L_PCREL_SK16" fails to express that the offset
>>should be shifted right by 2, so I'd keep B_R_L_B16 (and similarly,
>>B_R_L_B21 and B_R_L_B26) like the PCALA case.
>>
>The slot names come from
>https://github.com/loongson/LoongArch-Documentation/pull/56 (to
>non-Chinese speakers: English translation still TODO, but hopefully at
>least the ABNF and the few tables should be intelligible even without
>translation).
>
>As for the PCREL and implicit shifts, maybe a planned extension of the
>slot syntax could help. I plan to submit an Assembly Language
>Convention after the Instruction Format Convention gets reviewed and
>merged, and with this new convention such an extension is necessary
>anyway for accommodating the current assembly syntax as described by
>the ISA manual, able to express the <<2's and +1's for the
>PC-manipulating and ALSL insns.
>
>For example, let's say the extension works like this: ordinary slot
>syntax, plus "p", plus an postprocess operator, with "s\d+" for "imm
>slot = assembly operand >> N", and "p\d+" for "imm slot = assembly
>operand + N". Then we could say "B_R_L_PCREL_SK16PS2" and have all the
>niceties. (In an ideal world, the LoongArch opcodes implementation
>should be modified to use this convention too, so for example it will
>be something like "DJSk16ps2" for JIRL, "JDSk16ps2" for BLT (notice
>the reversed operand order) and "DJKUa2pp1" for ALSL insns.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-19 3:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-18 8:43 liuzhensong
2022-07-18 8:43 ` [PATCH 2/5 v1] LoongArch:opcodes: " liuzhensong
2022-07-18 8:43 ` [PATCH 3/5 v1] LoongArch: gas: " liuzhensong
2022-07-18 8:43 ` [PATCH 4/5 v1] LoongArch: Move ifunc info to rela.dyn from rela.plt liuzhensong
2022-07-18 11:45 ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-18 16:27 ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-19 7:26 ` liuzhensong
2022-07-18 8:43 ` [PATCH 5/5 v1] LoongArch: Delete R_LARCH_NONE from dynamic info liuzhensong
2022-07-18 10:06 ` [PATCH 1/5 v1] LoongArch: bfd: Add new reloc types WANG Xuerui
2022-07-18 11:33 ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-18 12:11 ` WANG Xuerui
2022-07-18 12:18 ` WANG Xuerui
2022-07-19 3:57 ` Fangrui Song [this message]
2022-07-20 7:47 ` liuzhensong
2022-07-20 2:07 ` liuzhensong
2022-07-20 4:03 ` WANG Xuerui
2022-07-20 5:19 ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-20 12:54 ` liuzhensong
2022-07-19 7:32 ` liuzhensong
2022-07-20 2:42 ` liuzhensong
2022-07-19 4:29 ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-19 5:40 ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-19 6:31 ` 刘振松
2022-07-19 6:34 ` Xi Ruoyao
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