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From: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: binutils@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Allow 16-bit register source for LAR and LSL
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 14:32:29 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMe9rOr2eXOW58Xmbk6=b5kLC6SG5dKnsn5by5t2kr7hhn4eJQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ae3e9f1-1207-50ea-7d25-ec7154f739bb@suse.com>

On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 8:36 AM Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On 06.12.2022 17:11, H.J. Lu wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:51 PM Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 06.12.2022 00:20, H.J. Lu wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 3:11 AM Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 03.12.2022 05:13, H.J. Lu wrote:
> >>>>> Since LAR and LSL only access 16 bits of the source operand, regardless
> >>>>> of operand size, allow 16-bit register source for LAR and LSL, and always
> >>>>> disassemble LAR and LSL with 16-bit source operand.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> gas/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       PR gas/29844
> >>>>>       * testsuite/gas/i386/i386.s: Add tests for LAR and LSL.
> >>>>>       * testsuite/gas/i386/x86_64.s: Likewise.
> >>>>>       * testsuite/gas/i386/intelbad.s: Remove "lar/lsl eax, ax".
> >>>>>       * testsuite/gas/i386/i386-intel.d: Updated.
> >>>>>       * testsuite/gas/i386/i386.d: Likewise.
> >>>>>       * testsuite/gas/i386/intel-intel.d: Likewise.
> >>>>>       * testsuite/gas/i386/intel.d: Likewise.
> >>>>>       * testsuite/gas/i386/intelbad.l: Likewise.
> >>>>>       * testsuite/gas/i386/x86_64-intel.d: Likewise.
> >>>>>       * testsuite/gas/i386/x86_64.d: Likewise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> opcodes/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       PR gas/29844
> >>>>>       * i386-dis.c (MOD_0F02): Removed.
> >>>>>       (MOD_0F03): Likewise.
> >>>>>       (dis386_twobyte): Restore larS and lslS.
> >>>>>       (mod_table): Remove MOD_0F02 and MOD_0F03.
> >>>>>       * i386-opc.tbl: Allow 16-bit register source for LAR and LSL.
> >>>>>       * i386-tbl.h: Regenerated.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please can you refrain from immediately committing patches which have
> >>>> a risk of being controversial.
> >>>>
> >>>> In the case here, given there are uses of the 16-bit register operand
> >>>> form in the Linux kernel, I can accept the assembler part of the change.
> >>>> The lines in i386-opc.tbl, however, need a comment then, as allowing for
> >>>> 16-bit registers despite a wider destination is explicitly not in line
> >>>> with the SDM. (Interestingly AMD's PM is different in this regard.)
> >>>>
> >>>> For the disassembler part you're completely undoing what I did, which is
> >>>> wrong - again with reference to the SDM. If you want to accommodate for
> >>>> AMD's PM, then you need to vary disassembly according to command line
> >>>> options specified, with the default being in line with the SDM (I can
> >>>> dig out a pretty old version of the doc, but I believe it has always
> >>>> been that way, i.e. even before AMD introduced their clones).
> >>>>
> >>>> I will revert this change unless you come forward with an adjustment
> >>>> within the next couple of days.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Given that the only lower 16 bits are used, the 16-bit register source
> >>> is more appropriate.  I will raise the issue with the Intel SDM author.
> >>
> >> I see no point in changing the documentation when what's there has been
> >> valid for well over 30 years. There are other cases in newer insns where
> >> only the low 16 (or 8) bits are used, yet still the 32-bit register name
> >> is specified ({,v}pinsr{b,w} come to mind immediately). Also what you've
> >> done brought things out of sync with mov-to-sreg (and no, please don't
> >> "restore" consistency by also changing disassembly there).
> >
> > The 16-bit register has been used in both assembler and disassembler
> > for well over 30 years.  I consider this a flaw in the spec.
>
> And a flaw in disassembly of move-to-sreg (and maybe other insns)?
> Is the spec then also wrong with {,v}pinsr{b,w}? Also note that
> while the assembler wants to provide backwards compatibility, the
> same is rarely necessary for the disassembler. Hence what it may
> or may not have done for over 30 years doesn't really matter.
>
> Please can we avoid introducing further inconsistencies, and rather
> work towards more consistency (and not by then also corrupting
> move-to-sreg and possible other insns)?
>

I have a different view on "inconsistencies".  For LAR/LSL, they
are different:

1.  All operands are integer registers.
2. The operand size prefix doesn't apply to the source.
3. Only the 16 bits of the source are used.
4. 16 bit source has been in use for more than 30 years.

What counts are how the processor behaves and what has
been used.  The SDM isn't casted in stone.  It is being updated
constantly.


H.J.

-- 
H.J.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-06 22:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-03  4:13 H.J. Lu
2022-12-05 11:10 ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-05 23:20   ` H.J. Lu
2022-12-06  7:51     ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-06 16:11       ` H.J. Lu
2022-12-06 16:36         ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-06 22:32           ` H.J. Lu [this message]
2022-12-07 10:47             ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-07 23:57               ` H.J. Lu
2022-12-08  7:38                 ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-09  2:11                   ` H.J. Lu
2022-12-08  7:20     ` Jan Beulich

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