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From: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
To: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>, binutils@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Warn .insn instruction with length > 15 bytes
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 16:48:01 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f3df4150-64dc-df71-4bd9-31470ce5a504@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMe9rOqTXF1gQUA_bf7ALUy2bqW_w8XFnEGdXDnh+JgEULOaFQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

On Tue, 6 Feb 2024, H.J. Lu wrote:

> > > > > It is an error on both Intel and AMD processors.   There is no
> > > > > valid reason not to be an error at the moment.
> > > >
> > > > Jan gave you one.  I would prefer for the assembler to not be anally
> > >
> > > That is not a valid reason.
> >
> > Yes it is.
> >
> > > There is no such processor in the foreseeable future.
> >
> > Doesn't matter.
> >
> 
> When a warning is given, a decodable instruction should still
> be generated.

A software library can decode such instruction just fine.  A human as well.

> Assembler shouldn't generate something which
> can't be decoded by default.

That's the important words: "by default".  Here's the documentation for 
as_bad and as_warn:

   as_bad() is used to mark errors that result in what we
   presume to be a useless object file.  Say, we ignored
   something that might have been vital.
   ...

   as_warn() is used when we have an error from which we
   have a plausible error recovery.  eg, masking the top
   bits of a constant that is longer than will fit in the
   destination.  In this case we will continue to assemble
   the source, although we may have made a bad assumption,
   and we will produce an object file and return normal exit
   status (ie, no error).
   ...

It's obvious to me that just continuing to assemble the over-long 
instruction is a "plausible error recovery".  It's even more plausible 
than "masking the top bits of a constant".  Certainly an object file 
containing a byte sequence correspending to the overlong instruction is 
not "useless".

I understand why you want to give an error by default, even though I 
disagree with even that (in my book only a warning is justified).  But 
ruling out that this can be demoted to a warning, possibly with an option, 
is not in line with my expectation of how the GNU assembler should work 
and has traditionally worked.


Ciao,
Michael.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-06 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-05 20:00 H.J. Lu
2024-02-06  8:19 ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-06 11:36   ` H.J. Lu
2024-02-06 11:41     ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-06 12:26       ` H.J. Lu
2024-02-06 14:43         ` Michael Matz
2024-02-06 14:49           ` H.J. Lu
2024-02-06 15:04             ` Michael Matz
2024-02-06 15:34               ` H.J. Lu
2024-02-06 15:48                 ` Michael Matz [this message]
2024-02-06 16:28                   ` H.J. Lu
2024-02-06 17:05                     ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-06 18:06                       ` H.J. Lu
2024-02-07  7:51                         ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-07 15:24                           ` H.J. Lu
2024-02-07 15:32                             ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-07 16:53                               ` H.J. Lu
2024-02-07 16:59                                 ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-07 17:03                                   ` H.J. Lu
2024-02-08  4:09                                     ` Jiang, Haochen
2024-02-08  4:47                                       ` Hongyu Wang
2024-02-08  8:15                                         ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-08  8:23                                     ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-08 11:38                                       ` H.J. Lu
2024-02-08  6:26                     ` Sunil Pandey
2024-02-08  6:41                   ` Cui, Lili
2024-02-08  8:18                     ` Jan Beulich
2024-02-08 11:31                       ` H.J. Lu

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