Re: 256x256 px icons

[Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>]

On Aug 16 13:28, Warren Young wrote:
> On 8/16/2011 2:35 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >>On 15 August 2011 18:52, Warren Young wrote:
> >The problem for me is that the Cygwin C is only a sidenote now, and
> >that it lost its color.
> 
> On purpose.  Few cardboard boxes have full-color logos on them.

Sure.  The problem is that it's on the cardbox.  If it's on the
cardbox as is, and also jumps out of the box in color, that would
be quite different.

> While I could lift the box flap enough to let the entire logo show,
> I think the partial obscuration helps sell the icon's illusion.  The

Yep, that's nice.  I wouldn't change that.

> >>I don't think this replaces the newly finalized C logo on the first
> >>setup.exe wizard page.
> >
> >Not so sure about that...  http://cygwin.de/angry-hippo-setup.png
> 
> That works for me, too.  I just thought you'd prefer the big C there
> instead, for branding.

Actually, I don't think this icon is really feasible as an application
icon.  It's too detailed.  However, it would be fun to have a big logo
using the card box with a big 3D Cygwin C jumping out of the box on
the setup start screen.  The icon would not have to be exactly square
either.  As you can see, there's an area of about 150x260 pixel on the
left side of the splash screen, which can be used for the icon.  Maybe
if it looks like the C is bigger than the box and inflates while it
jumps out...

> >I just hope the hippo is free art.
> 
> The licenses and ownership of all the pieces that went into the
> rendering allow me to provide renders to the project free and clear.
> 
> The hippo model is free in the same way most fonts are free: I can't
> legally give you copies of the mesh and textures, but I can produce
> as many pixels as I'd like using it, and donate those pixels to an
> open source software project.  See section 4 in the DAZ content
> EULA:
> 
> 	http://www.daz3d.com/sections/aboutus/eula/EULA_Content.pdf
> 
> If you want your own copy of the model, it's inexpensive:
> 
> 	http://www.daz3d.com/i.x/shop/itemdetails/-/?item=4140

Hmm.  That's not exactly what I understand as free or open license.  The
paragraph 4 doesn't sound good to me.  In fact, I removed all traces of
the boxed hippo from my machines after reading that.

> The cardboard texture is a heavily-hacked version of this photo:
> 
> 	http://flic.kr/p/5EYA5Y
> 
> My version evens out the lighting and removes the distortion in
> order to make it a seamless texture.  I recolored it as part of that
> process.
> 
> The original is licensed CC-by 2.0.  My read of the license is that
> I can probably give out my version, since it's different enough to
> qualify as remixed art.  Attribution shouldn't be a problem, since
> the photographer disclaims the need for it on the photo's Flickr
> page. (You're being attributed here and now, Jacob Gube!)

That's fine.

> The recycle icon on the box's front is like the hippo model: I can't
> give you the vectors, but anyone with a dingbat font installed
> probably has a direct substitute on hand.  I suppose it would be
> legal to give out the raster texture I made from the vectors.

Is there a chance to replace that?

> So, bottom line, yes, some non-free software and non-free assets
> went into this composition.  But if you're still feeling your RMS
> senses tingling, ask yourself this: if I had managed to photograph
> this scene instead, would you be insisting that I provide[*] copies
> of my camera, the box, and the hippo before you could use the photo?

That's not really the same.  Copyright problems are something we should
avoid like the devil avoids holy water.  This is lawyer's playfield and
I have not enough training to play this game.  Therefore I rather not
have any of the DAZ art as part of this project.

> >I really like the 3D box, but I think it would be better to have a 3D
> >Cygwin C hopping out of the box.
> 
> I can give that a try, too.

That would be cool

> But dang it, I *like* the angry hippo. >:)

Yeah, but the potential price is too high.


Corinna

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