A change to how calm expires packages

A change to how calm expires packages

[Jon Turney]

To try to avoid packages lingering in the 'test' status indefinitely 
(which leads to them not being installed by most users, as they don't 
run setup with 'consider test packages' enabled, thus these packages 
generally aren't getting used, so having them isn't generating much 
value), I'm planning to change how calm expires packages:

Currently (in the absence of configuration otherwise [1]), calm will 
retain up to 3 non-test versions, and 3 test versions, and expire all 
other versions.

I plan to change this to also expire test versions which are superseded 
by a non-test version (that is: expire test versions where a non-test 
version with a higher version number exists).

I believe this makes the default behaviour closer to what package 
maintainers are likely to want to happen.

This change will cause the following packages to be removed:

_autorebase-001091-0.1
cygutils-1.4.16-4
cygwin-3.3.0-0.1.9814cfd8f693
cygwin-3.3.0-0.2.6c1f49f83fde
fontforge-20201107p2-1
fontforge-20201107p8-1
gcc-11.2.0-0
grep-3.6-1
grep-3.7-1
gzip-1.10-1
libftdi1-1.4-1
libiconv-1.16-1
meson-0.54.2-3
mingw64-i686-gcc-11.1.0-0.1
mingw64-i686-gcc-11.2.0-0
mingw64-i686-gcc-7.3.0-1
mingw64-x86_64-gcc-11.1.0-0.1
mingw64-x86_64-gcc-11.2.0-0.1
mingw64-x86_64-gcc-7.3.0-1
openbabel-3.1.1p36-1
openbabel-3.1.1p36-2
rdiff-backup-2.0.0-1
readline-8.1-1
screen-4.6.2-3
texlive-collection-latexrecommended-doc-20210118-2
xorg-server-21.1.0-1


Brian, Ken,

The only packages I can see where this seems like it will do the wrong 
thing are listed below.  Before deploying this, would you like me to:?

grep: untest 3.6-1 and expire 3.0.1
gzip: untest 1.10-1 and expire 1.7-2
texlive-collection-latexrecommended-doc: untest 20210118-2 and expire 
20210118-1

[1] See https://cygwin.com/packaging-hint-files.html#override.hint.  Not 
that override.hint files do not apply recursively currently.

Re: A change to how calm expires packages

[Ken Brown]

On 1/20/2022 9:33 AM, Jon Turney wrote:
> texlive-collection-latexrecommended-doc: untest 20210118-2 and expire 20210118-1

Yes, please.  It was just a mistake that I never untested 20210118-2.

Ken

Re: A change to how calm expires packages

[Achim Gratz]

Jon Turney writes:
> This change will cause the following packages to be removed:
>
> _autorebase-001091-0.1
> gcc-11.2.0-0
> mingw64-i686-gcc-11.1.0-0.1
> mingw64-i686-gcc-11.2.0-0
> mingw64-i686-gcc-7.3.0-1
> mingw64-x86_64-gcc-11.1.0-0.1
> mingw64-x86_64-gcc-11.2.0-0.1
> mingw64-x86_64-gcc-7.3.0-1

That looks about right, thanks.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: A change to how calm expires packages

[Brian Inglis]

On 2022-01-20 07:33, Jon Turney wrote:
> To try to avoid packages lingering in the 'test' status indefinitely 
> (which leads to them not being installed by most users, as they don't 
> run setup with 'consider test packages' enabled, thus these packages 
> generally aren't getting used, so having them isn't generating much 
> value), I'm planning to change how calm expires packages:
> 
> Currently (in the absence of configuration otherwise [1]), calm will 
> retain up to 3 non-test versions, and 3 test versions, and expire all 
> other versions.
> 
> I plan to change this to also expire test versions which are superseded 
> by a non-test version (that is: expire test versions where a non-test 
> version with a higher version number exists).
> 
> I believe this makes the default behaviour closer to what package 
> maintainers are likely to want to happen.
> 
> This change will cause the following packages to be removed:
> 
> grep-3.6-1
> grep-3.7-1
> gzip-1.10-1
> readline-8.1-1
> 
> Brian,
> 
> The only packages I can see where this seems like it will do the wrong 
> thing are listed below.  Before deploying this, would you like me to:?
> 
> grep: untest 3.6-1 and expire 3.0.1
> gzip: untest 1.10-1 and expire 1.7-2

Your calm expiry actions seem to DTRT, but your suggestions are probably 
a better approach, so yes please do so!

Test releases grep 3.6 and gzip 1.10 successors grep 3.7 and gzip 1.11 
were released during the test period, both including bug fixes, later 
promoted to current.
A new grep 3.7 test was released, as the changes were significant: high 
impact and pervasive, with only 9 months between releases.
The gzip 1.11 changes were not: mainly docs, help, infra, typos, 
warnings, and other platforms, despite 2 years 9 months between releases 
and more commits.
I was unaware of *untest*, so bumped the grep release and gzip version 
for current.

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Re: A change to how calm expires packages

[Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty]

On 20/01/2022 14:33, Jon Turney wrote:
> 
> To try to avoid packages lingering in the 'test' status indefinitely 
> (which leads to them not being installed by most users, as they don't 
> run setup with 'consider test packages' enabled, thus these packages 
> generally aren't getting used, so having them isn't generating much 
> value), I'm planning to change how calm expires packages:
> 
> Currently (in the absence of configuration otherwise [1]), calm will 
> retain up to 3 non-test versions, and 3 test versions, and expire all 
> other versions.
> 
> I plan to change this to also expire test versions which are superseded 
> by a non-test version (that is: expire test versions where a non-test 
> version with a higher version number exists).
> 
> I believe this makes the default behaviour closer to what package 
> maintainers are likely to want to happen.
> 
> This change will cause the following packages to be removed:
> 
> _autorebase-001091-0.1
> cygutils-1.4.16-4
> cygwin-3.3.0-0.1.9814cfd8f693
> cygwin-3.3.0-0.2.6c1f49f83fde
> fontforge-20201107p2-1
> fontforge-20201107p8-1
> gcc-11.2.0-0
> grep-3.6-1
> grep-3.7-1
> gzip-1.10-1
> libftdi1-1.4-1
> libiconv-1.16-1
> meson-0.54.2-3
> mingw64-i686-gcc-11.1.0-0.1
> mingw64-i686-gcc-11.2.0-0
> mingw64-i686-gcc-7.3.0-1
> mingw64-x86_64-gcc-11.1.0-0.1
> mingw64-x86_64-gcc-11.2.0-0.1
> mingw64-x86_64-gcc-7.3.0-1
> openbabel-3.1.1p36-1
> openbabel-3.1.1p36-2
> rdiff-backup-2.0.0-1
> readline-8.1-1
> screen-4.6.2-3
> texlive-collection-latexrecommended-doc-20210118-2
> xorg-server-21.1.0-1
> 
> 
> Brian, Ken,
> 
> The only packages I can see where this seems like it will do the wrong 
> thing are listed below.  Before deploying this, would you like me to:?
> 
> grep: untest 3.6-1 and expire 3.0.1
> gzip: untest 1.10-1 and expire 1.7-2
> texlive-collection-latexrecommended-doc: untest 20210118-2 and expire 
> 20210118-1
> 
> [1] See https://cygwin.com/packaging-hint-files.html#override.hint.  Not 
> that override.hint files do not apply recursively currently.
> 

This seems like a good change to me, also.

Re: A change to how calm expires packages

[Jon Turney]

On 20/01/2022 14:33, Jon Turney wrote:
> 
> To try to avoid packages lingering in the 'test' status indefinitely 
> (which leads to them not being installed by most users, as they don't 
> run setup with 'consider test packages' enabled, thus these packages 
> generally aren't getting used, so having them isn't generating much 
> value), I'm planning to change how calm expires packages:
> 
> Currently (in the absence of configuration otherwise [1]), calm will 
> retain up to 3 non-test versions, and 3 test versions, and expire all 
> other versions.
> 
> I plan to change this to also expire test versions which are superseded 
> by a non-test version (that is: expire test versions where a non-test 
> version with a higher version number exists).
> 
> I believe this makes the default behaviour closer to what package 
> maintainers are likely to want to happen.

This change has been deployed.