Re: Cygwin x86 end-of-life

[Thomas Wolff <towo@towo.net>]

Am 12.11.2022 um 17:58 schrieb Thomas Wolff:
>
> Am 12.11.2022 um 17:08 schrieb Jon Turney:
>> On 11/11/2022 20:02, Thomas Wolff wrote:
>>> Hi Achim,
>>>
>>> Am 11.11.2022 um 20:50 schrieb Achim Gratz:
>>>> Thomas Wolff writes:
>>>>>> I plan to pause package uploads this coming Monday (2022-11-14),
>>>>>> before starting the re-organization of the package repository to
>>>>>> make this archive.
>>>>> Although expected for a while, the exact date is now a very 
>>>>> short-time
>>>>> announcement. Can we have a moratorium for a short while?
>>
>> So, if not now, when?
> Well, first, I think it's not a good idea to change and over-interpret 
> a plan in this way. The announcement for a year or so has been "cygwin 
> 3.4 will not support 32 bit anymore". This does not imply that the 
> repository will be closed so any other package would not be allowed 
> anymore to provide updates. What about security updates? Basic 
> functionality?
> I think a plan to freeze the repository would need a separate and 
> explicit announcement, and some decent period from then.
>>
>> Is this actually going to cause you problems, and if so what are they 
>> specifically, or is this just a case of "change is bad"?
> Well I would certainly wish to upload a few more updates for mintty 
> also for 32 bit, and also one other package of mine, to know their 
> 32-bit packages are in a good final state. Mintty 3.6.1, for instance, 
> has an exotic crash condition to be fixed but I wouldn't like to make 
> an upload in a hurry this weekend.
... Also I'd like to see the hopefully upcoming fix for the grep package 
in the final 32 bit version.

>>
>>>> That moratorium is already running for more than a year:
>>>>
>>>> https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/2021-October/249690.html
>>> That message does not announce a blocking of further 32-bit package 
>>> uploads, and not a precise date for such hard step either. So please 
>>> let's not commit a violation of the principle of least surprise.
>>
>> Sorry if this was communicated in a surprising way, but there is also 
>> another, important principle at work here, the principle of least 
>> effort, or as we might call it in this application "the principle of 
>> not inventing more work for Jon Turney to do".
> Understood, but is it really work to just not touch the repository for 
> another few weeks?