xlsx2csv package may not be required.

xlsx2csv package may not be required.

[Doug Henderson]

There is a current pure python version of xlsx2csv which runs for many
versions of Python 2 and Python 3.

It may not be necessary to provide a package for it in cygwin.
Instead, users may install the pure python package from PYPI
https://pypi.org/ using pip or another python package manager.

Doug

-- 
Doug Henderson, Calgary, Alberta, Canada - from gmail.com

Re: xlsx2csv package may not be required.

[Adam Dinwoodie]

On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 07:58:48PM -0600, Doug Henderson via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> There is a current pure python version of xlsx2csv which runs for many
> versions of Python 2 and Python 3.
> 
> It may not be necessary to provide a package for it in cygwin.
> Instead, users may install the pure python package from PYPI
> https://pypi.org/ using pip or another python package manager.

Installing using pip or similar is an option for the vast majority of
packages that are available through the Cygwin installer; by that logic
it wouldn't make sense to provide most of the Python packages we
provide.  Which wouldn't be an invalid strategy, but it would be a very
big change in how we handle things!

I think the advantage of using the Cygwin packages is a better
likelihood of packages actually being compatible with Cygwin, rather
than having some weird and unpredictable package dependency issue.  A
pure Python xlsx2csv is very unlikely to be affected by that sort of
issue, but providing it as a Cygwin package means users shouldn't need
to even think about whether the package is a pure Python package or not.

Re: xlsx2csv package may not be required.

[marco atzeri]

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 10:29 AM Adam Dinwoodie via Cygwin-apps
<cygwin-apps@cygwin.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 07:58:48PM -0600, Doug Henderson via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> > There is a current pure python version of xlsx2csv which runs for many
> > versions of Python 2 and Python 3.
> >
> > It may not be necessary to provide a package for it in cygwin.
> > Instead, users may install the pure python package from PYPI
> > https://pypi.org/ using pip or another python package manager.
>
> Installing using pip or similar is an option for the vast majority of
> packages that are available through the Cygwin installer; by that logic
> it wouldn't make sense to provide most of the Python packages we
> provide.  Which wouldn't be an invalid strategy, but it would be a very
> big change in how we handle things!
>
> I think the advantage of using the Cygwin packages is a better
> likelihood of packages actually being compatible with Cygwin, rather
> than having some weird and unpredictable package dependency issue.  A
> pure Python xlsx2csv is very unlikely to be affected by that sort of
> issue, but providing it as a Cygwin package means users shouldn't need
> to even think about whether the package is a pure Python package or not.


I agree with Adam.
I would have no problem to release the python package no if not for
the problem to the laptop

I guess one month from now I will be able to be operative again
(assuming the target supplier of the laptop https://frame.work/ will
not have delivery problem)

Regards
Marco

Re: xlsx2csv package may not be required.

[Jari Aalto]

On 2023-03-18 17:56, marco atzeri via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 10:29 AM Adam Dinwoodie via Cygwin-apps
> <cygwin-apps@cygwin.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 07:58:48PM -0600, Doug Henderson via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> > > There is a current pure python version of xlsx2csv which runs for many
> > > versions of Python 2 and Python 3.
> > >
> > > It may not be necessary to provide a package for it in cygwin.
> > > Instead, users may install the pure python package from PYPI
> > > https://pypi.org/ using pip or another python package manager.
> >
> > Installing using pip or similar is an option for the vast majority of
> > packages that are available through the Cygwin installer; by that logic
> > it wouldn't make sense to provide most of the Python packages we
> > provide.  Which wouldn't be an invalid strategy, but it would be a very
> > big change in how we handle things!
> >
> > I think the advantage of using the Cygwin packages is a better
> > likelihood of packages actually being compatible with Cygwin, rather
> > than having some weird and unpredictable package dependency issue.  A
> > pure Python xlsx2csv is very unlikely to be affected by that sort of
> > issue, but providing it as a Cygwin package means users shouldn't need
> > to even think about whether the package is a pure Python package or not.
> 
> 
> I agree with Adam.
> I would have no problem to release the python package no if not for
> the problem to the laptop
> 
> I guess one month from now I will be able to be operative again
> (assuming the target supplier of the laptop https://frame.work/ will
> not have delivery problem)

I agree, it's better to have native Python package which is more
likely to be kept up to date by the upstream.

So, anyopne packaging the Python PIP version, please go ahead and
remove the current package.

Jari

Re: xlsx2csv package may not be required.

[Brian Inglis]

On 2023-03-22 01:14, Jari Aalto via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> On 2023-03-18 17:56, marco atzeri via Cygwin-apps wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 10:29 AM Adam Dinwoodie via Cygwin-apps
>> <cygwin-apps@cygwin.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 07:58:48PM -0600, Doug Henderson via Cygwin-apps wrote:
>>>> There is a current pure python version of xlsx2csv which runs for many
>>>> versions of Python 2 and Python 3.
>>>>
>>>> It may not be necessary to provide a package for it in cygwin.
>>>> Instead, users may install the pure python package from PYPI
>>>> https://pypi.org/ using pip or another python package manager.
>>>
>>> Installing using pip or similar is an option for the vast majority of
>>> packages that are available through the Cygwin installer; by that logic
>>> it wouldn't make sense to provide most of the Python packages we
>>> provide.  Which wouldn't be an invalid strategy, but it would be a very
>>> big change in how we handle things!
>>>
>>> I think the advantage of using the Cygwin packages is a better
>>> likelihood of packages actually being compatible with Cygwin, rather
>>> than having some weird and unpredictable package dependency issue.  A
>>> pure Python xlsx2csv is very unlikely to be affected by that sort of
>>> issue, but providing it as a Cygwin package means users shouldn't need
>>> to even think about whether the package is a pure Python package or not.
>>
>>
>> I agree with Adam.
>> I would have no problem to release the python package no if not for
>> the problem to the laptop
>>
>> I guess one month from now I will be able to be operative again
>> (assuming the target supplier of the laptop https://frame.work/ will
>> not have delivery problem)
> 
> I agree, it's better to have native Python package which is more
> likely to be kept up to date by the upstream.
> 
> So, anyopne packaging the Python PIP version, please go ahead and
> remove the current package.

Hi Jari,

So no issue if I adopt and package with cygport?
It's a utility I use around tax time and sometimes elsewhen.

-- 
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis              Calgary, Alberta, Canada

La perfection est atteinte                   Perfection is achieved
non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter  not when there is no more to add
mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer     but when there is no more to cut
                                 -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

Re: xlsx2csv package may not be required.

[Brian Inglis]

On 2023-03-22 13:13, Brian Inglis via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> On 2023-03-22 01:14, Jari Aalto via Cygwin-apps wrote:
>> On 2023-03-18 17:56, marco atzeri via Cygwin-apps wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 10:29 AM Adam Dinwoodie via Cygwin-apps
>>> <cygwin-apps@cygwin.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 07:58:48PM -0600, Doug Henderson via Cygwin-apps wrote:
>>>>> There is a current pure python version of xlsx2csv which runs for many
>>>>> versions of Python 2 and Python 3.
>>>>>
>>>>> It may not be necessary to provide a package for it in cygwin.
>>>>> Instead, users may install the pure python package from PYPI
>>>>> https://pypi.org/ using pip or another python package manager.
>>>>
>>>> Installing using pip or similar is an option for the vast majority of
>>>> packages that are available through the Cygwin installer; by that logic
>>>> it wouldn't make sense to provide most of the Python packages we
>>>> provide.  Which wouldn't be an invalid strategy, but it would be a very
>>>> big change in how we handle things!
>>>>
>>>> I think the advantage of using the Cygwin packages is a better
>>>> likelihood of packages actually being compatible with Cygwin, rather
>>>> than having some weird and unpredictable package dependency issue.  A
>>>> pure Python xlsx2csv is very unlikely to be affected by that sort of
>>>> issue, but providing it as a Cygwin package means users shouldn't need
>>>> to even think about whether the package is a pure Python package or not.
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with Adam.
>>> I would have no problem to release the python package no if not for
>>> the problem to the laptop
>>>
>>> I guess one month from now I will be able to be operative again
>>> (assuming the target supplier of the laptop https://frame.work/ will
>>> not have delivery problem)
>>
>> I agree, it's better to have native Python package which is more
>> likely to be kept up to date by the upstream.
>>
>> So, anyopne packaging the Python PIP version, please go ahead and
>> remove the current package.
> 
> Hi Jari,
> 
> So no issue if I adopt and package with cygport?
> It's a utility I use around tax time and sometimes elsewhen.

Or not - I see you said you updated it under the python2 removal ITA subthread.

-- 
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis              Calgary, Alberta, Canada

La perfection est atteinte                   Perfection is achieved
non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter  not when there is no more to add
mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer     but when there is no more to cut
                                 -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

Re: xlsx2csv package may not be required.

[Jari Aalto]

On 2023-03-22 13:13, Brian Inglis wrote:
> On 2023-03-22 01:14, Jari Aalto via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> > On 2023-03-18 17:56, marco atzeri via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 10:29 AM Adam Dinwoodie via Cygwin-apps
> > > <cygwin-apps@cygwin.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 07:58:48PM -0600, Doug Henderson via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> > > > > There is a current pure python version of xlsx2csv which runs for many
> > > > > versions of Python 2 and Python 3.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It may not be necessary to provide a package for it in cygwin.
> > > > > Instead, users may install the pure python package from PYPI
> > > > > https://pypi.org/ using pip or another python package manager.
> > > > 
> > > > Installing using pip or similar is an option for the vast majority of
> > > > packages that are available through the Cygwin installer; by that logic
> > > > it wouldn't make sense to provide most of the Python packages we
> > > > provide.  Which wouldn't be an invalid strategy, but it would be a very
> > > > big change in how we handle things!
> > > > 
> > > > I think the advantage of using the Cygwin packages is a better
> > > > likelihood of packages actually being compatible with Cygwin, rather
> > > > than having some weird and unpredictable package dependency issue.  A
> > > > pure Python xlsx2csv is very unlikely to be affected by that sort of
> > > > issue, but providing it as a Cygwin package means users shouldn't need
> > > > to even think about whether the package is a pure Python package or not.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I agree with Adam.
> > > I would have no problem to release the python package no if not for
> > > the problem to the laptop
> > > 
> > > I guess one month from now I will be able to be operative again
> > > (assuming the target supplier of the laptop https://frame.work/ will
> > > not have delivery problem)
> > 
> > I agree, it's better to have native Python package which is more
> > likely to be kept up to date by the upstream.
> > 
> > So, anyopne packaging the Python PIP version, please go ahead and
> > remove the current package.
> 
> Hi Jari,
> 
> So no issue if I adopt and package with cygport?
> It's a utility I use around tax time and sometimes elsewhen.

If you go ahead and take maintenance of the Pyhon PIP version of
xlsx2csv, I think we can retire the current xlsx2csv package as it is
not particularly active in git:

https://github.com/dilshod/xlsx2csv.git

2023-03-13 78be285 tdilshod Merge pull request #248 from NoSuck/hyperlinks-crash-string-bytes
2023-03-13 140e4cf tdilshod Merge pull request #252 from hugovk/replace-deprecated-BadZipfile
2023-01-09 3180d94 tdilshod version 0.8.1 (tag: 0.8.1)
2022-12-23 9b6c2df tdilshod include hidden rows option
2022-10-02 4beb5a8 tdilshod fix python2 support

Jari