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* Re: Add support for Windows 8, first step
       [not found]     ` <20111013103332.GA18819@calimero.vinschen.de>
@ 2011-10-13 14:02       ` Charles Wilson
  2011-10-13 14:30         ` Corinna Vinschen
                           ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Charles Wilson @ 2011-10-13 14:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Talk Amongst Yourselves

On 10/13/2011 6:33 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> (*) I really hope Microsoft doesn't remove the old start menu entirely
>     from the OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the start
>     menu is only useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious
>     work, IMO.


I only hope Gnome/Fedora/Red Hat doesn't remove the old start menu
entirely from the OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the
start menu is only useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious
work, IMO.


I only hope Ubuntu doesn't remove the old start menu entirely from the
OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the start menu is only
useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious work, IMO.


Somebody PLEASE tell these people that not EVERYTHING is going to become
a tablet!!!

--
Chuck

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* Re: Add support for Windows 8, first step
  2011-10-13 14:02       ` Add support for Windows 8, first step Charles Wilson
@ 2011-10-13 14:30         ` Corinna Vinschen
  2011-10-13 19:38           ` David Sastre
  2011-10-16  3:50           ` Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
  2011-10-13 14:33         ` Chris Sutcliffe
  2011-10-13 14:54         ` Danilo Turina
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-10-13 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-talk

On Oct 13 10:01, Charles Wilson wrote:
> On 10/13/2011 6:33 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > (*) I really hope Microsoft doesn't remove the old start menu entirely
> >     from the OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the start
> >     menu is only useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious
> >     work, IMO.
> 
> 
> I only hope Gnome/Fedora/Red Hat doesn't remove the old start menu
> entirely from the OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the
> start menu is only useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious
> work, IMO.
> 
> 
> I only hope Ubuntu doesn't remove the old start menu entirely from the
> OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the start menu is only
> useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious work, IMO.
> 
> 
> Somebody PLEASE tell these people that not EVERYTHING is going to become
> a tablet!!!

That's why I'm using Xfce4, not Gnome 3.  If Xfce5 goes the same route,
there's still LXDE.  So far.


Corinna

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* Re: Add support for Windows 8, first step
  2011-10-13 14:02       ` Add support for Windows 8, first step Charles Wilson
  2011-10-13 14:30         ` Corinna Vinschen
@ 2011-10-13 14:33         ` Chris Sutcliffe
  2011-10-13 14:48           ` Chris Sutcliffe
  2011-10-13 14:51           ` Corinna Vinschen
  2011-10-13 14:54         ` Danilo Turina
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Chris Sutcliffe @ 2011-10-13 14:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List

On 13 October 2011 10:01, Charles Wilson wrote:
> On 10/13/2011 6:33 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>> (*) I really hope Microsoft doesn't remove the old start menu entirely
>>     from the OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the start
>>     menu is only useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious
>>     work, IMO.

How do you revert to the classic start menu in Windows 8?  I've
installed it in a VM for test purposes and the new UI is driving me
nuts!

Chris

-- 
Chris Sutcliffe
http://emergedesktop.org
http://www.google.com/profiles/ir0nh34d

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* Re: Add support for Windows 8, first step
  2011-10-13 14:33         ` Chris Sutcliffe
@ 2011-10-13 14:48           ` Chris Sutcliffe
  2011-10-13 14:51           ` Corinna Vinschen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Chris Sutcliffe @ 2011-10-13 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List

On 13 October 2011 10:33, Chris Sutcliffe <ir0nh34d@gmail.com> wrote:
> How do you revert to the classic start menu in Windows 8?  I've
> installed it in a VM for test purposes and the new UI is driving me
> nuts!

Never mind found it (Google is my friend :) ).

Chris

-- 
Chris Sutcliffe
http://emergedesktop.org
http://www.google.com/profiles/ir0nh34d

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* Re: Add support for Windows 8, first step
  2011-10-13 14:33         ` Chris Sutcliffe
  2011-10-13 14:48           ` Chris Sutcliffe
@ 2011-10-13 14:51           ` Corinna Vinschen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-10-13 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-talk

On Oct 13 10:33, Chris Sutcliffe wrote:
> On 13 October 2011 10:01, Charles Wilson wrote:
> > On 10/13/2011 6:33 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >> (*) I really hope Microsoft doesn't remove the old start menu entirely
> >>     from the OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the start
> >>     menu is only useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious
> >>     work, IMO.
> 
> How do you revert to the classic start menu in Windows 8?  I've
> installed it in a VM for test purposes and the new UI is driving me
> nuts!

Set HKCU/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Explorer/RPEnable to 0.

Corinna

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* Re: Add support for Windows 8, first step
  2011-10-13 14:02       ` Add support for Windows 8, first step Charles Wilson
  2011-10-13 14:30         ` Corinna Vinschen
  2011-10-13 14:33         ` Chris Sutcliffe
@ 2011-10-13 14:54         ` Danilo Turina
  2011-10-13 15:20           ` Chris Sutcliffe
  2011-10-13 15:21           ` David Eisner
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Danilo Turina @ 2011-10-13 14:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List

On 13/10/2011 16.01, Charles Wilson wrote:
> On 10/13/2011 6:33 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>> (*) I really hope Microsoft doesn't remove the old start menu entirely
>>      from the OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the start
>>      menu is only useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious
>>      work, IMO.
>
> I only hope Gnome/Fedora/Red Hat doesn't remove the old start menu
> entirely from the OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the
> start menu is only useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious
> work, IMO.
>
>
> I only hope Ubuntu doesn't remove the old start menu entirely from the
> OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the start menu is only
> useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious work, IMO.
>
>
> Somebody PLEASE tell these people that not EVERYTHING is going to become
> a tablet!!!
>
> --
> Chuck
>
Well, in WinXP I've (almost) stopped using the start menu after 
installing Launchy.

In Win7 I use the start menu once in a week at most, while I use the... 
uhm... can't remember the name, but, anyway, that text box that appears 
when you press the Win key (and that is somewhat similar in behavior to 
Launchy (and yes it's included in the start menu, but I don't consider 
it really part of the start menu)) and, sometimes, the desktop.

The start menu is just slow when you can press a key or a combination of 
keys and then the first chars of the name of the application that you want.

Ciao,
     Danilo

-- 
DANILO TURINA
ALCATEL-LUCENT
Software Analyst
NM System Team
Network-Optics
Rieti (Italy)
Phone: +39 0746 600332

10 anni 6 mesi 4 giorni 7 ore 16 minuti 3 secondi

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* Re: Add support for Windows 8, first step
  2011-10-13 14:54         ` Danilo Turina
@ 2011-10-13 15:20           ` Chris Sutcliffe
  2011-10-13 15:27             ` Danilo Turina
  2011-10-13 15:21           ` David Eisner
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Chris Sutcliffe @ 2011-10-13 15:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List

On 13 October 2011 10:53, Danilo Turina wrote:
> The start menu is just slow when you can press a key or a combination of
> keys and then the first chars of the name of the application that you want.

Playing devil's advocate, what about the times when you don't know the
name of the application?  With respect to using command line (which is
essentially what you are doing), it works for power users, but what
about people who like to point-and-click?

Cheers,

Chris

-- 
Chris Sutcliffe
http://emergedesktop.org
http://www.google.com/profiles/ir0nh34d

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* Re: Add support for Windows 8, first step
  2011-10-13 14:54         ` Danilo Turina
  2011-10-13 15:20           ` Chris Sutcliffe
@ 2011-10-13 15:21           ` David Eisner
  2011-10-13 15:41             ` Corinna Vinschen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: David Eisner @ 2011-10-13 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-talk

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Danilo Turina
<danilo.turina@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:
> Well, in WinXP I've (almost) stopped using the start menu after installing
> Launchy.

Ditto.  I love Launchy (and GNOME Do).  The start menu is still useful
when I want to browse ("Does this machine have Foo installed?") or
can't remember the name of an app I rarely use.

-David

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* Re: Add support for Windows 8, first step
  2011-10-13 15:20           ` Chris Sutcliffe
@ 2011-10-13 15:27             ` Danilo Turina
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Danilo Turina @ 2011-10-13 15:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Vulgar and Unprofessional Cygwin-Talk List

On 13/10/2011 17.20, Chris Sutcliffe wrote:
> On 13 October 2011 10:53, Danilo Turina wrote:
>> The start menu is just slow when you can press a key or a combination of
>> keys and then the first chars of the name of the application that you want.
> Playing devil's advocate, what about the times when you don't know the
> name of the application?
That's why I use the start menu once in a week (at most).
>   With respect to using command line (which is
> essentially what you are doing), it works for power users, but what
> about people who like to point-and-click?
No, it's not the command line, you get the command line with Win+R.
The thing I get is more like Google for the start menu (with Launchy on 
XP) and Google for the "most interesting places" of the PC (on 7).

>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
Ciao,
     Danilo

-- 
DANILO TURINA
ALCATEL-LUCENT
Software Analyst
NM System Team
Network-Optics
Rieti (Italy)
Phone: +39 0746 600332

10 anni 6 mesi 4 giorni 7 ore 52 minuti 55 secondi

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* Re: Add support for Windows 8, first step
  2011-10-13 15:21           ` David Eisner
@ 2011-10-13 15:41             ` Corinna Vinschen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-10-13 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-talk

On Oct 13 11:20, David Eisner wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Danilo Turina
> <danilo.turina@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:
> > Well, in WinXP I've (almost) stopped using the start menu after installing
> > Launchy.
> 
> Ditto.  I love Launchy (and GNOME Do).  The start menu is still useful
> when I want to browse ("Does this machine have Foo installed?") or
> can't remember the name of an app I rarely use.

Like MMC snap-ins.  Who on earth remembers "secpol.msc /s" to start the
"Local Security Policy" MMC snap-in?


Corinna

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* Re: Add support for Windows 8, first step
  2011-10-13 14:30         ` Corinna Vinschen
@ 2011-10-13 19:38           ` David Sastre
  2011-10-16  3:50           ` Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: David Sastre @ 2011-10-13 19:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-talk

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On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 04:29:31PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Oct 13 10:01, Charles Wilson wrote:
> > On 10/13/2011 6:33 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > > (*) I really hope Microsoft doesn't remove the old start menu entirely
> > >     from the OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the start
> > >     menu is only useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious
> > >     work, IMO.
> > 
> > 
> > I only hope Gnome/Fedora/Red Hat doesn't remove the old start menu
> > entirely from the OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the
> > start menu is only useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious
> > work, IMO.
> > 
> > 
> > I only hope Ubuntu doesn't remove the old start menu entirely from the
> > OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the start menu is only
> > useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious work, IMO.
> > 
> > 
> > Somebody PLEASE tell these people that not EVERYTHING is going to become
> > a tablet!!!
> 
> That's why I'm using Xfce4, not Gnome 3.  If Xfce5 goes the same route,
> there's still LXDE.  So far.
> 
> 
> Corinna

...and that's why I use ratpoison. Even in cygwin :P

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* Re: Add support for Windows 8, first step
  2011-10-13 14:30         ` Corinna Vinschen
  2011-10-13 19:38           ` David Sastre
@ 2011-10-16  3:50           ` Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Yaakov (Cygwin/X) @ 2011-10-16  3:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-talk

On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 16:29 +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Oct 13 10:01, Charles Wilson wrote:
> > I only hope Gnome/Fedora/Red Hat doesn't remove the old start menu
> > entirely from the OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the
> > start menu is only useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious
> > work, IMO.
> > 
> > 
> > I only hope Ubuntu doesn't remove the old start menu entirely from the
> > OS.  The new GUI which is supposed to replace the start menu is only
> > useful for tablets and playing, but not for serious work, IMO.
> > 
> > 
> > Somebody PLEASE tell these people that not EVERYTHING is going to become
> > a tablet!!!
> 
> That's why I'm using Xfce4, not Gnome 3.  If Xfce5 goes the same route,
> there's still LXDE.  So far.

The classic GNOME panel interface is still available in 3.x:

System Settings -> System Info -> Graphics -> Forced Fallback Mode : ON.

I use it on a daily basis on Cygwin/X, since gnome-shell requires
hardware acceleration, which we don't have yet in desktop mode.


Yaakov
Cygwin/X


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