RE: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

RE: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Dave Korn]

----Original Message----
>From: Christopher Faylor
>Sent: 11 May 2005 16:41

> It sounds like you need to read MSDN on CreateProcess and see what it says
> about "lpEnvironment":
> 
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dllproc/bas
e/createprocess.asp
> 
> cgf

  Well, among other things, it says ...

" Each string is in the form:

name=value

Because the equal sign is used as a separator, it must not be used in the
name of an environment variable."

... and then a little later on it also says ...

" For example, there is an environment variable named =C: whose value is the
current directory on drive C. An application must manually pass the current
directory information to the new process. To do so, the application must
explicitly create these environment variable strings, sort them
alphabetically (because the system uses a sorted environment), and put them
into the environment block. "

  Sheesh.  Those wild and crazy microsoft guys huh?  Gotta love 'em.

    cheers,
      DaveK
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RE: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Dave Korn]

----Original Message----
>From: Dave Korn
>Sent: 11 May 2005 16:47

> 
>   Sheesh.  Those wild and crazy microsoft guys huh?  Gotta love 'em.
> 
>     cheers,
>       DaveK


  No, wait a minute, slight typo there, what I really meant to say was
"Gotta rip out the still-beating heart from their chests and hold it up
before their eyes so they can see how shrivelled and poisoned and twisted it
is before they die".

  My mistake.

    cheers,
      DaveK
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Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Christopher Faylor]

On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 04:47:28PM +0100, Dave Korn wrote:
>----Original Message----
>>From: Christopher Faylor
>>Sent: 11 May 2005 16:41
>>It sounds like you need to read MSDN on CreateProcess and see what it
>>says about "lpEnvironment":
>>
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dllproc/base/createprocess.asp
>
>Well, among other things, it says ...
>
>" Each string is in the form:
>
>name=value
>
>Because the equal sign is used as a separator, it must not be used in
>the name of an environment variable."
>
>...  and then a little later on it also says ...
>
>" For example, there is an environment variable named =C: whose value
>is the current directory on drive C.  An application must manually pass
>the current directory information to the new process.  To do so, the
>application must explicitly create these environment variable strings,
>sort them alphabetically (because the system uses a sorted
>environment), and put them into the environment block.  "

Yeah, were you following the discussion related to this in the
gdb-patches mailing list?

Anyway, now that you've read the documentation, do you want to provide
in-depth technical help on how to construct an environment block?

cgf

RE: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Dave Korn]

----Original Message----
>From: Christopher Faylor
>Sent: 11 May 2005 17:03

> 
> Yeah, were you following the discussion related to this in the
> gdb-patches mailing list?

  Nope, I missed that... gotta reference?

> Anyway, now that you've read the documentation, do you want to provide
> in-depth technical help on how to construct an environment block?

  Sounds like the sort of thing I could knock out in my sleep.  Point me at
the thread so I know what it's needed for.

    cheers,
      DaveK
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Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Christopher Faylor]

On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 05:41:56PM +0100, Dave Korn wrote:
>----Original Message----
>>From: Christopher Faylor
>>Sent: 11 May 2005 17:03
>
>>Yeah, were you following the discussion related to this in the
>>gdb-patches mailing list?
>
>Nope, I missed that...  gotta reference?

It was wrt "mi" and what it should do with absolute path references,
subject "[RFC] fullname attribute for GDB/MI stack frames".  Eli was
maintaining that Windows had some kind of deep logic about maintaining
the pwd on every drive on your machine and I was mentioning that
the drive info is stored in the environment.

>>Anyway, now that you've read the documentation, do you want to provide
>>in-depth technical help on how to construct an environment block?
>
>Sounds like the sort of thing I could knock out in my sleep.  Point me
>at the thread so I know what it's needed for.

You're responding to the thread.  I modified the cygwin DLL so that a
non-cygwin program can get an _environ style block so that it will still
work in a "mount -X" directory.  cygstart uses CreateProcess to start
programs so, even though cygstart is a cygwin process, it needs to know
about the cygwin environment.  It doesn't even need any of the new logic
that I just added to the DLL.  It just needs to construct a windows
environment block from cygwin's UNIX-like environment and pass that to
CreateProcess.

cgf

RE: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Dave Korn]

----Original Message----
>From: Christopher Faylor
>Sent: 11 May 2005 17:47

> cygstart uses CreateProcess to start
> programs so, even though cygstart is a cygwin process, it needs to know
> about the cygwin environment.  It doesn't even need any of the new logic
> that I just added to the DLL.  It just needs to construct a windows
> environment block from cygwin's UNIX-like environment and pass that to
> CreateProcess.


  Elementary, my dear watson!  I'll get onto it after I get home from work
this evening.


    cheers,
      DaveK
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Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Michael Schaap]

On 11-May-2005 20:11, Dave Korn wrote:

>----Original Message----
>  
>
>>From: Christopher Faylor
>>Sent: 11 May 2005 17:47
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>cygstart uses CreateProcess to start
>>programs so, even though cygstart is a cygwin process, it needs to know
>>about the cygwin environment.  It doesn't even need any of the new logic
>>that I just added to the DLL.  It just needs to construct a windows
>>environment block from cygwin's UNIX-like environment and pass that to
>>CreateProcess.
>>    
>>
>
>
>  Elementary, my dear watson!  I'll get onto it after I get home from work
>this evening.
>
>  
>
Actually, cygstart does *not* use CreateProcess, and we - well, mostly
Dave R. - already fixed the problem, so never mind.  ;-)

Thanks for your offer, though.

 - Michael

PS: This is all *way* off-topic for this list.  To make up for it, I
propose to add a --hippo flag to cygstart.  Anyone have a suggestion for
what it should do?

Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 12:53:46AM +0200, Michael Schaap wrote:
>Actually, cygstart does *not* use CreateProcess, and we - well, mostly
>Dave R. - already fixed the problem, so never mind.  ;-)

And, the sad thing is that I knew that and forgot about it.  2.5 weeks
of head cold and non-sleep are taking a toll, I think.

cgf

Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Thu, 12 May 2005, Michael Schaap wrote:

> PS: This is all *way* off-topic for this list.  To make up for it, I
> propose to add a --hippo flag to cygstart.  Anyone have a suggestion for
> what it should do?

Why, set the Cygwin desktop icon to "the hippo", of course...  Unless
you'd rather finish Brian's dancing hippo (i.e., insert the Cygwin logo in
all frames), then cygcheck could pop up a browser with that animation
instead.
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Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Michael Schaap]

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On 12-May-2005 23:15, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:

>On Thu, 12 May 2005, Michael Schaap wrote:
>
>  
>
>>PS: This is all *way* off-topic for this list.  To make up for it, I
>>propose to add a --hippo flag to cygstart.  Anyone have a suggestion for
>>what it should do?
>>    
>>
>
>Why, set the Cygwin desktop icon to "the hippo", of course...
>
Hmm... tricky...

>  Unless
>you'd rather finish Brian's dancing hippo (i.e., insert the Cygwin logo in
>all frames), then cygcheck could pop up a browser with that animation
>instead.
>	Igor
>  
>
Well, I'm a bit artistically challenged, so I'll leave that to someone
else, but the latter part is easy - I attached a patch to do just that.

Hippopotamical regards,

 - Michael

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--- ORIG2/cygstart.c	2005-05-13 16:25:36.721750000 +0200
+++ cygstart.c	2005-05-13 16:37:44.551000000 +0200
@@ -40,7 +40,10 @@
 #define MSDN_URL "http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/" \
                  "Shell/reference/functions/shellexecute.asp"
 
-static const char versionID[] = "1.2";
+/* Hippo URL */
+#define HIPPO_URL "http://dessent.net/tmp/cyghippo.jpg"
+
+static const char versionID[] = "1.2.hippo";
 /* for future CVS */
 static const char revID[] =
 	"$Id: cygstart.c,v 1.3 2005/03/08 05:22:51 cwilson Exp $";
@@ -155,6 +158,8 @@
           "Display licensing information", NULL},
         { "reference", '\0', POPT_ARG_NONE, NULL, 'r', \
           "Open MSDN reference for ShellExecute", NULL},
+        { "hippo", '\0', POPT_ARG_NONE, NULL, 'i', \
+          "Show the Cygwin Hippo!", NULL},
         { NULL, '\0', 0, NULL, 0, NULL, NULL }
     };
 
@@ -226,6 +231,15 @@
                 if (workDir)
                     free(workDir);
                 return(0);
+            case 'i':
+                cygStart(HIPPO_URL, NULL, NULL, NULL, SW_NORMAL);
+                poptFreeContext(optCon);
+                free(program_name);
+                if (action)
+                    free(action);
+                if (workDir)
+                    free(workDir);
+                return(0);
 
             /* Action options */
             case 'a':
@@ -471,6 +485,7 @@
 {
     fprintf(f, "\n");
     fprintf(f, "With thanks to MSDN: <%s>\n\n", MSDN_URL);
+    fprintf(f, "No hippopotami were hurt in the production of this software.\n\n");
     fprintf(f, "Please report any bugs to <cygwin(at)cygwin.com>.\n");
 }
 

Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Fri, 13 May 2005, Michael Schaap wrote:

> On 12-May-2005 23:15, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 12 May 2005, Michael Schaap wrote:
> >
> >>PS: This is all *way* off-topic for this list.  To make up for it, I
> >>propose to add a --hippo flag to cygstart.  Anyone have a suggestion for
> >>what it should do?
> >
> >Why, set the Cygwin desktop icon to "the hippo", of course...
>
> Hmm... tricky...

Not if readshortcut/mkshortcut are available. ;-)

> >Unless you'd rather finish Brian's dancing hippo (i.e., insert the
> >Cygwin logo in all frames), then cygcheck could pop up a browser with
> >that animation instead.
> >	Igor
>
> Well, I'm a bit artistically challenged, so I'll leave that to someone
> else, but the latter part is easy - I attached a patch to do just that.
>
> Hippopotamical regards,
>  - Michael

Three small comments on the patch:

+/* Hippo URL */
+#define HIPPO_URL "http://dessent.net/tmp/cyghippo.jpg";

The .jpg file won't have the animation -- I'd make that a .gif, and
hope that either Brian completes the graphic endeavour, or, in case
someone else does, Brian will post the result on his web site.  However,
as a temp measure this would do, and you could always release a new
cygstart if an animated GIF is announced.

+        { "hippo", '\0', POPT_ARG_NONE, NULL, 'i', \
                                               ^^^
Why '-i'?  Wouldn't '-H' (big-h) be more appropriate?

+          "Show the Cygwin Hippo!", NULL},

Shouldn't this be "Show me the Hippo!"? :-)
	Igor
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Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Michael Schaap]

On 13-May-2005 22:54, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:

>On Fri, 13 May 2005, Michael Schaap wrote:
>
>  
>
>>On 12-May-2005 23:15, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>On Thu, 12 May 2005, Michael Schaap wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>PS: This is all *way* off-topic for this list.  To make up for it, I
>>>>propose to add a --hippo flag to cygstart.  Anyone have a suggestion for
>>>>what it should do?
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Why, set the Cygwin desktop icon to "the hippo", of course...
>>>      
>>>
>>Hmm... tricky...
>>    
>>
>
>Not if readshortcut/mkshortcut are available. ;-)
>
>  
>
PTC.  ;-)

>>>Unless you'd rather finish Brian's dancing hippo (i.e., insert the
>>>Cygwin logo in all frames), then cygcheck could pop up a browser with
>>>that animation instead.
>>>	Igor
>>>      
>>>
>>Well, I'm a bit artistically challenged, so I'll leave that to someone
>>else, but the latter part is easy - I attached a patch to do just that.
>>
>>Hippopotamical regards,
>> - Michael
>>    
>>
>
>Three small comments on the patch:
>
>+/* Hippo URL */
>+#define HIPPO_URL "http://dessent.net/tmp/cyghippo.jpg";
>
>The .jpg file won't have the animation -- I'd make that a .gif, and
>hope that either Brian completes the graphic endeavour, or, in case
>someone else does, Brian will post the result on his web site.  However,
>as a temp measure this would do, and you could always release a new
>cygstart if an animated GIF is announced.
>
>  
>
Indeed, it's probably best to point to this URL for now - it works, at
least - and point to an Official Cygwin Hippo URL once we have an
Official Cygwin Hippo Animation.  (Which should probably be hosted on
cygwin.com.  Or perhaps on all mirror servers, and cygstart --hippo
would pick the nearest mirror automagically.)

>+        { "hippo", '\0', POPT_ARG_NONE, NULL, 'i', \
>                                               ^^^
>Why '-i'?  Wouldn't '-H' (big-h) be more appropriate?
>
>  
>
It would, but it's already taken for --hide.  So -i, being the next
available character.
(And in any case, neither -H for --hide and -i for --hippo actually
work, it's only used internally by popt.  I think...)

>+          "Show the Cygwin Hippo!", NULL},
>
>Shouldn't this be "Show me the Hippo!"? :-)
>  
>
Good catch!

Thanks for the code review.  Too bad that it's all for
nothing^H^H^H^H^H^H^H fun, since, obviously, we're never going to
release this.  :-)

 - Michael

Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Mon, 16 May 2005, Michael Schaap wrote:

> On 13-May-2005 22:54, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 13 May 2005, Michael Schaap wrote:
> >
> >>On 12-May-2005 23:15, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Thu, 12 May 2005, Michael Schaap wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>PS: This is all *way* off-topic for this list.  To make up for it, I
> >>>>propose to add a --hippo flag to cygstart.  Anyone have a suggestion for
> >>>>what it should do?
> >>>>
> >>>Why, set the Cygwin desktop icon to "the hippo", of course...
> >>>
> >>Hmm... tricky...
> >
> >Not if readshortcut/mkshortcut are available. ;-)
>
> PTC.  ;-)

Fair enough...

> >>>Unless you'd rather finish Brian's dancing hippo (i.e., insert the
> >>>Cygwin logo in all frames), then cygcheck could pop up a browser with
> >>>that animation instead.
> >>>	Igor
> >>>
> >>Well, I'm a bit artistically challenged, so I'll leave that to someone
> >>else, but the latter part is easy - I attached a patch to do just that.
> >>
> >>Hippopotamical regards,
> >> - Michael
> >
> >Three small comments on the patch:
> >
> >+/* Hippo URL */
> >+#define HIPPO_URL "http://dessent.net/tmp/cyghippo.jpg";
> >
> >The .jpg file won't have the animation -- I'd make that a .gif, and
> >hope that either Brian completes the graphic endeavour, or, in case
> >someone else does, Brian will post the result on his web site.  However,
> >as a temp measure this would do, and you could always release a new
> >cygstart if an animated GIF is announced.
>
> Indeed, it's probably best to point to this URL for now - it works, at
> least - and point to an Official Cygwin Hippo URL once we have an
> Official Cygwin Hippo Animation.  (Which should probably be hosted on
> cygwin.com.  Or perhaps on all mirror servers, and cygstart --hippo
> would pick the nearest mirror automagically.)

Hmm... tricky...

> >+        { "hippo", '\0', POPT_ARG_NONE, NULL, 'i', \
> >                                               ^^^
> >Why '-i'?  Wouldn't '-H' (big-h) be more appropriate?
>
> It would, but it's already taken for --hide.  So -i, being the next
> available character.

I went by the output of "cygstart --help".  No -H is listed.

> (And in any case, neither -H for --hide and -i for --hippo actually
> work, it's only used internally by popt.  I think...)

Ah, that explains it.  You could add them to shortopts, and it'd work.
Also, since 'H' for '--hide' is only used internally, you can change it to
any other character with very little pain.  After all, Big-H is much more
appropriate for "hippo" -- don't you think? ;-)

> >+          "Show the Cygwin Hippo!", NULL},
> >
> >Shouldn't this be "Show me the Hippo!"? :-)
>
> Good catch!

Thanks. :-)

> Thanks for the code review.  Too bad that it's all for
> nothing^H^H^H^H^H^H^H fun, since, obviously, we're never going to
> release this.  :-)
>
>  - Michael

Aww, too bad.  I'm sure Corinna and CGF would be de-lighted to see such a
demonstration of the Cygwin spirit in one of the core packages... :-)
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Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Michael Schaap]

On 17-May-2005 0:50, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:

>  
>
>>(And in any case, neither -H for --hide and -i for --hippo actually
>>work, it's only used internally by popt.  I think...)
>>    
>>
>
>Ah, that explains it.  You could add them to shortopts, and it'd work.
>Also, since 'H' for '--hide' is only used internally, you can change it to
>any other character with very little pain.  After all, Big-H is much more
>appropriate for "hippo" -- don't you think? ;-)
>
>  
>
Agreed.

>>Thanks for the code review.  Too bad that it's all for
>>nothing^H^H^H^H^H^H^H fun, since, obviously, we're never going to
>>release this.  :-)
>>
>> - Michael
>>    
>>
>
>Aww, too bad.  I'm sure Corinna and CGF would be de-lighted to see such a
>demonstration of the Cygwin spirit in one of the core packages... :-)
>	Igor
>  
>
Well, now that Chuck has just released a new version of Cygutils, I
don't want to have to make him go through another one.  ;-)
But next time there is a "proper" change to cygstart, I'll see if I can
sneak something in...

 - Michael

(Hmm, sneaking a Hippo in might be tricky...)

Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Charles Wilson]

Michael Schaap wrote:
> Well, now that Chuck has just released a new version of Cygutils, I
> don't want to have to make him go through another one.  ;-)
> But next time there is a "proper" change to cygstart, I'll see if I can
> sneak something in...
> 
>  - Michael
> 
> (Hmm, sneaking a Hippo in might be tricky...)
> 

See, this is what happens when I don't keep an eye on you guys.  I go 
off for a while and you guys start trying to slip hippopotami into my 
packages.

Here's what I want to know: whatever happened to otters, dadgummit?

--
Chuck

Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 08:17:16PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
>Michael Schaap wrote:
>>Well, now that Chuck has just released a new version of Cygutils, I
>>don't want to have to make him go through another one.  ;-)
>>But next time there is a "proper" change to cygstart, I'll see if I can
>>sneak something in...
>>
>> - Michael
>>
>>(Hmm, sneaking a Hippo in might be tricky...)
>
>See, this is what happens when I don't keep an eye on you guys.  I go 
>off for a while and you guys start trying to slip hippopotami into my 
>packages.
>
>Here's what I want to know: whatever happened to otters, dadgummit?

I know.  I think I let the hippo talk get out of hand.

I tried to reintroduce otters to the collective consciousness but it
just didn't take.  Maybe that's because otters just don't cause as much
damage when dropped from great heights.  I do think they at least
arguably look just as good in a tu-tu as hippos, though.

cgf

Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[One Angry User]

On Tue, 24 May 2005, Christopher Faylor's computer deigned to emit the following stream of bytes:

> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 08:17:16PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
> >Here's what I want to know: whatever happened to otters, dadgummit?
>
> I know.  I think I let the hippo talk get out of hand.
>
> I tried to reintroduce otters to the collective consciousness but it
> just didn't take.  Maybe that's because otters just don't cause as much
> damage when dropped from great heights.  I do think they at least
> arguably look just as good in a tu-tu as hippos, though.

Oh, yeah?  Then how come Disney picked hippos?

OAU

Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Christopher Faylor]

On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 12:12:15AM -0400, One Angry User wrote:
>On Tue, 24 May 2005, Christopher Faylor's computer deigned to emit the following stream of bytes:
>>On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 08:17:16PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
>>>Here's what I want to know: whatever happened to otters, dadgummit?
>>
>>I know.  I think I let the hippo talk get out of hand.
>>
>>I tried to reintroduce otters to the collective consciousness but it
>>just didn't take.  Maybe that's because otters just don't cause as much
>>damage when dropped from great heights.  I do think they at least
>>arguably look just as good in a tu-tu as hippos, though.
>
>Oh, yeah?  Then how come Disney picked hippos?

Maybe Walt was coerced to do so by some evil hippotist.

cgf
(who was going to use a hypothalamus pun but wisely googled first)

Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Michael Schaap]

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On 25-May-2005 2:17, Charles Wilson wrote:

> Michael Schaap wrote:
>
>> Well, now that Chuck has just released a new version of Cygutils, I
>> don't want to have to make him go through another one.  ;-)
>> But next time there is a "proper" change to cygstart, I'll see if I can
>> sneak something in...
>>
>>  - Michael
>>
>> (Hmm, sneaking a Hippo in might be tricky...)
>>
>
> See, this is what happens when I don't keep an eye on you guys.  I go
> off for a while and you guys start trying to slip hippopotami into my
> packages.
>
> Here's what I want to know: whatever happened to otters, dadgummit?
>
Okay, okay, revised patch attached...

 - Michael

[-- Attachment #2: cygstart_otter.patch --]
[-- Type: text/plain, Size: 3557 bytes --]

--- ORIG/cygstart.c	2005-05-16 22:18:52.000000000 +0200
+++ ./cygstart.c	2005-05-25 18:36:18.186375000 +0200
@@ -40,7 +40,11 @@
 #define MSDN_URL "http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/" \
                  "Shell/reference/functions/shellexecute.asp"
 
-static const char versionID[] = "1.2";
+/* Hippo and otter URLs */
+#define HIPPO_URL "http://dessent.net/tmp/cyghippo.jpg"
+#define OTTER_URL "http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-04/png00001.png"
+
+static const char versionID[] = "1.2.hippotter";
 /* for future CVS */
 static const char revID[] =
 	"$Id: cygstart.c,v 1.4 2005/05/16 20:18:52 cwilson Exp $";
@@ -107,7 +111,7 @@
 
     /* Show options */
     struct poptOption showOptionsTable[] = {
-        { "hide",  '\0',  POPT_ARG_NONE, NULL, 'H', \
+        { "hide",  '\0',  POPT_ARG_NONE, NULL, 'i', \
           "Hides the window and activates another window", NULL},
         { "maximize",  '\0',  POPT_ARG_NONE, NULL, 'M', \
           "Maximizes the specified window", NULL},
@@ -135,7 +139,7 @@
         { "shownoactivate",  '\0',  POPT_ARG_NONE, NULL, 'V', \
           "Displays a window in its most recent size and position. The "
           "active window remains active", NULL},
-        { "shownormal",  '\0',  POPT_ARG_NONE, NULL, 'O', \
+        { "shownormal",  '\0',  POPT_ARG_NONE, NULL, 'n', \
           "Activates and displays a window. If the window is minimized or "
           "maximized, Windows restores it to its original size and position. "
           "An application should specify this flag when displaying the window "
@@ -155,6 +159,10 @@
           "Display licensing information", NULL},
         { "reference", '\0', POPT_ARG_NONE, NULL, 'r', \
           "Open MSDN reference for ShellExecute", NULL},
+        { "hippo", 'H', POPT_ARG_NONE, NULL, 'H', \
+          "Show me the Hippo!", NULL},
+        { "otter", 'O', POPT_ARG_NONE, NULL, 'O', \
+          "Show me the Otter!", NULL},
         { NULL, '\0', 0, NULL, 0, NULL, NULL }
     };
 
@@ -226,6 +234,24 @@
                 if (workDir)
                     free(workDir);
                 return(0);
+            case 'H':
+                cygStart(HIPPO_URL, NULL, NULL, NULL, SW_NORMAL);
+                poptFreeContext(optCon);
+                free(program_name);
+                if (action)
+                    free(action);
+                if (workDir)
+                    free(workDir);
+                return(0);
+            case 'O':
+                cygStart(OTTER_URL, NULL, NULL, NULL, SW_NORMAL);
+                poptFreeContext(optCon);
+                free(program_name);
+                if (action)
+                    free(action);
+                if (workDir)
+                    free(workDir);
+                return(0);
 
             /* Action options */
             case 'a':
@@ -280,7 +306,7 @@
                 break;
 
             /* Show options */
-            case 'H':
+            case 'i':
                 show = SW_HIDE;
                 break;
             case 'M':
@@ -310,7 +336,7 @@
             case 'V':
                 show = SW_SHOWNOACTIVATE;
                 break;
-            case 'O':
+            case 'n':
                 show = SW_SHOWNORMAL;
                 break;
         }
@@ -471,6 +497,7 @@
 {
     fprintf(f, "\n");
     fprintf(f, "With thanks to MSDN: <%s>\n\n", MSDN_URL);
+    fprintf(f, "No hippopotami or otters were hurt in the production of this software.\n\n");
     fprintf(f, "Please report any bugs to <cygwin(at)cygwin.com>.\n");
 }
 

Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Wed, 25 May 2005, Michael Schaap wrote:

> On 25-May-2005 2:17, Charles Wilson wrote:
>
> > Michael Schaap wrote:
> >
> >> Well, now that Chuck has just released a new version of Cygutils, I
> >> don't want to have to make him go through another one.  ;-)
> >> But next time there is a "proper" change to cygstart, I'll see if I can
> >> sneak something in...
> >>
> >>  - Michael
> >>
> >> (Hmm, sneaking a Hippo in might be tricky...)
> >
> > See, this is what happens when I don't keep an eye on you guys.  I go
> > off for a while and you guys start trying to slip hippopotami into my
> > packages.
> >
> > Here's what I want to know: whatever happened to otters, dadgummit?
>
> Okay, okay, revised patch attached...
>
>  - Michael

One teeny comment on the patch:

> @@ -471,6 +497,7 @@
>  {
>      fprintf(f, "\n");
>      fprintf(f, "With thanks to MSDN: <%s>\n\n", MSDN_URL);
> +    fprintf(f, "No hippopotami or otters were hurt in the production of this software.\n\n");

I'd make that

+    fprintf(f, "No hippopotami or otters were hurt in production of this software, dadgummit!\n\n");

>      fprintf(f, "Please report any bugs to <cygwin(at)cygwin.com>.\n");
>  }

(yeah, I know, I'm missing an article, but that was only to fit the
message in 80 columns...).
	Igor
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RE: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Dave Korn]

----Original Message----
>From: Michael m
>Sent: 25 May 2005 17:42

> On 25-May-2005 2:17, Charles Wilson wrote:
> 
>> Michael Schaap wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, now that Chuck has just released a new version of Cygutils, I
>>> don't want to have to make him go through another one.  ;-)
>>> But next time there is a "proper" change to cygstart, I'll see if I can
>>> sneak something in... 
>>> 
>>>  - Michael
>>> 
>>> (Hmm, sneaking a Hippo in might be tricky...)
>>> 
>> 
>> See, this is what happens when I don't keep an eye on you guys.  I go
>> off for a while and you guys start trying to slip hippopotami into my
>> packages. 
>> 
>> Here's what I want to know: whatever happened to otters, dadgummit?
>> 
> Okay, okay, revised patch attached...
> 
>  - Michael


> +#define OTTER_URL "http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-04/png00001.png"



  That's never an otter, that's got to be a weasel or a stoat or ferret or
something.  Possibly a mongoose, you never can tell.



    cheers,
      DaveK
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RE: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Wed, 25 May 2005, Dave Korn wrote:

> ----Original Message----
> >From: Michael m
> >Sent: 25 May 2005 17:42
>
> > +#define OTTER_URL "http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-04/png00001.png"
>
>   That's never an otter, that's got to be a weasel or a stoat or ferret or
> something.  Possibly a mongoose, you never can tell.

That is most definitely an otter (based on this:
<http://creationsbycarole.com/qcrit/45502.htm>).

And, just to put this back on-topic for this list:
<http://creationsbycarole.com/qcrit/46504.htm> :-)
	Igor
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RE: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[One Angry User]

On Wed, 25 May 2005, Williams, Gerald S (Jerry)'s computer deigned to emit the following stream of bytes:

> Christopher Faylor wrote:
> > I tried to reintroduce otters to the collective consciousness but
> > it just didn't take.  Maybe that's because otters just don't cause
> > as much damage when dropped from great heights.  I do think they
> > at least arguably look just as good in a tu-tu as hippos, though.
>
> I haven't put much thought into it (probably a good thing),
> but I have a feeling they otter be just as good a source of
> bad puns as well.

Yeah, until someone comes by and tells you otterwise...

OAU

RE: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Williams, Gerald S (Jerry)]

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> I tried to reintroduce otters to the collective consciousness but
> it just didn't take.  Maybe that's because otters just don't cause
> as much damage when dropped from great heights.  I do think they
> at least arguably look just as good in a tu-tu as hippos, though.

I haven't put much thought into it (probably a good thing),
but I have a feeling they otter be just as good a source of
bad puns as well.

gsw

RE: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID)]

At Wednesday, May 25, 2005 12:17 PM, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> On Wed, 25 May 2005, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) wrote:
> 
>> At Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:10 AM, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
>>> On Wed, 25 May 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On May 25 08:27, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) wrote:
>>>>> I'm still hoping for cygnets (young swans).  (Somehow a cygnet in
>>>>> a tutu seems a good fit.)
>>>> 
>>>> A cygnet in a tutu?  Around the neck?
>>> 
>>> How did tutus come in here anyway?  Via hippos?
>>> 	Igor
>> 
>> I think that it is a reference to Fantasia.
>> http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0032455/
>> http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0032455/plotsummary
> 
> I know, I'm the one who brought Fantasia up.  I was just trying to
> remember whether tutus were mentioned separately before, and that
> prompted the Fantasia reference, or vice versa.
> 	Igor

Sorry.  I'd forgotten the earlier part of the thread.

RE: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Wed, 25 May 2005, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) wrote:

> At Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:10 AM, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 May 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >
> >> On May 25 08:27, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) wrote:
> >>> I'm still hoping for cygnets (young swans).  (Somehow a cygnet in a
> >>> tutu seems a good fit.)
> >>
> >> A cygnet in a tutu?  Around the neck?
> >
> > How did tutus come in here anyway?  Via hippos?
> > 	Igor
>
> I think that it is a reference to Fantasia.
> http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0032455/
> http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0032455/plotsummary

I know, I'm the one who brought Fantasia up.  I was just trying to
remember whether tutus were mentioned separately before, and that prompted
the Fantasia reference, or vice versa.
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RE: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID)]

At Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:10 AM, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> On Wed, 25 May 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> 
>> On May 25 08:27, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) wrote:
>>> I'm still hoping for cygnets (young swans).  (Somehow a cygnet in a
>>> tutu seems a good fit.)
>> 
>> A cygnet in a tutu?  Around the neck?
> 
> How did tutus come in here anyway?  Via hippos?
> 	Igor

I think that it is a reference to Fantasia.
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0032455/
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0032455/plotsummary

Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Wed, 25 May 2005, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

> On May 25 08:27, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) wrote:
> > I'm still hoping for cygnets (young swans).  (Somehow a cygnet in a tutu
> > seems a good fit.)
>
> A cygnet in a tutu?  Around the neck?

How did tutus come in here anyway?  Via hippos?
	Igor
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Re: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Corinna Vinschen]

On May 25 08:27, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) wrote:
> I'm still hoping for cygnets (young swans).  (Somehow a cygnet in a tutu
> seems a good fit.)

A cygnet in a tutu?  Around the neck?


Corinna

RE: Fixing strace and cygcheck so that they work with mount -X

[Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID)]

At Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:15 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 08:17:16PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
>> Michael Schaap wrote:
>>> Well, now that Chuck has just released a new version of Cygutils, I
>>> don't want to have to make him go through another one.  ;-)
>>> But next time there is a "proper" change to cygstart, I'll see if I
>>> can sneak something in... 
>>> 
>>> - Michael
>>> 
>>> (Hmm, sneaking a Hippo in might be tricky...)
>> 
>> See, this is what happens when I don't keep an eye on you guys.  I go
>> off for a while and you guys start trying to slip hippopotami into
>> my packages. 
>> 
>> Here's what I want to know: whatever happened to otters, dadgummit?
> 
> I know.  I think I let the hippo talk get out of hand.
> 
> I tried to reintroduce otters to the collective consciousness but it
> just didn't take.  Maybe that's because otters just don't cause as
> much damage when dropped from great heights.  I do think they at least
> arguably look just as good in a tu-tu as hippos, though.
> 
> cgf

I'm still hoping for cygnets (young swans).  (Somehow a cygnet in a tutu
seems a good fit.)

- Barry