Beware of falling... cygwins?

Beware of falling... cygwins?

[Robb, Sam]

Google can't be wrong, can it?

http://google.com/trends?q=hippo%2C+cygwin&ctab=0&date=all&geo=all

This make it look as if it is the *hippos* that are, in
fact, in danger of being crushed by a falling cygwin!

Which raises the question... what is a cygwin, and why would it
be interested in crushing a hippo?  I mean, I know what a cygnet
is, so I'm guessing that a cygwin must be related somehow.  But
I can't see a hippo (not even a dwarf hippo) being threatened by
a young swan, no matter how fast it's falling.  I mean, it would
have to be moving at an... unnatural... speed for it to be threat!

Oh... OH!  It's obvious now... so obvious...

Cygwin's are GIANT CYBERNETIC ALIEN SPACE-SWANS!

Moving at relativistic speeds from the vicinity of 70 Ophiuchi,
they are even now coming... coming... COMING FOR OUR HIPPOS!

Ahem.

Aside from that, it's interesting - but not suprising - that
South Africa has about the same incidence of searches for "hippo"
and "cygwin".

*blinks*

Though apparently, the top language search for "hippo" is Finnish...

Wow.  This is like a free-association conspiracy theory generator.

-Samrobb

Re: Beware of falling... cygwins?

[One Angry User]

On a gloomy Thursday, the 11th day of May, 2006, Robb, Sam's computer deigned to emit the following (partial) stream of bytes:

> What is a cygwin, and why would it be interested in crushing a hippo?

Whatever it is, I'm sure the feeling is mutual.

OAU

RE: Beware of falling... cygwins?

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

> From: Robb, Sam
>
> Google can't be wrong, can it?
> 
> http://google.com/trends?q=hippo%2C+cygwin&ctab=0&date=all&geo=all
> 

[snip free-association conspiracy theory generator ;-)]

Wow, if that graph is to be believed and is lin-lin, that's kind of
surprising actually.  A drop in searches by ~half in the last ~2.4 years
would tend to indicate that folks are either:

1. Losing the need to use POSIX... er, I mean, Linux... functionality on
Windows, or:
2. Seeking their POSIX... er, Linux, sorry... -on-Windows functionality
elsewhere.

We all know #1 ain't true, so I'm curious as to who's picking up the search
slack, and why.

-- 
Gary R. Van Sickle

Re: Beware of falling... cygwins?

[Lloeki]

On 12/05/06, Gary R. Van Sickle <g.r.vansickle@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > From: Robb, Sam
> >
> > Google can't be wrong, can it?
> >
> > http://google.com/trends?q=hippo%2C+cygwin&ctab=0&date=all&geo=all
> >
>
> [snip free-association conspiracy theory generator ;-)]
>
> Wow, if that graph is to be believed and is lin-lin, that's kind of
> surprising actually.  A drop in searches by ~half in the last ~2.4 years
> would tend to indicate that folks are either:
>
> 1. Losing the need to use POSIX... er, I mean, Linux... functionality on
> Windows, or:
> 2. Seeking their POSIX... er, Linux, sorry... -on-Windows functionality
> elsewhere.
>
> We all know #1 ain't true, so I'm curious as to who's picking up the search
> slack, and why.
>
> --
> Gary R. Van Sickle
>
>

Let's look at some more posix:
http://google.com/trends?q=cygwin%2C+ubuntu%2C+gentoo%2C+debian%2C+osx&ctab=2&geo=all&date=all
wow. I never expected ubuntu would ever had such a steep curve.

That one's interesting too, regarding posix-on-windows:
http://google.com/trends?q=vmware%2C+qemu%2C+cygwin&ctab=2&geo=all&date=all

And finally I put that one apart 'cauz it's dwarfing the others, but
it seems falling faster than cygwin.
http://google.com/trends?q=windows&ctab=2&geo=all&date=all

So, if we take these numbers as user-base estimations (which as we
know has all chances to be 100% wrong, so all what I say next may be
safely ignored, but pelase read on), it tends to show that, _among
google users_ (that's important):
- linux userbase is increasing
- fewer people are using windows
- posix-on-windows demand is increasing (though vmware and qemu are
- among google+windows users, cygwin demand is roughly steady (ratio
of the slopes of a linear fit seems constant)

Of course this is all limited to google users, so if more and more
people are using msn search (thinking especially of windows users),
windows user base might actually be increasing. So in the end it might
just show that linux users prefer google over msn.
and of course, we're talking about searches, not users, but I made the
rough assumption that when you search for something, it's because of
interest in it, and who has the biggest chance of having interest in
something? a user of that something. So all that stuff might just not
be completely wrong, and taken as a possible (if not probable)
estimation.

It could become some remarkable analyze tool.
[snip]"study" with politics keywords[/snip]
I tried with politics stuff and the results are amazingly accurate, if
interpreted correctly. I was reluctant to include it because I didn't
feel it has its place here, so I snipped it, but if you ask for it,
I'll send it.

Google's power is intriguing, to say the least.

Lloeki

Re: Beware of falling... cygwins?

[Igor Peshansky]

On Fri, 12 May 2006, Lloeki wrote:

> and of course, we're talking about searches, not users, but I made the
> rough assumption that when you search for something, it's because of
> interest in it, and who has the biggest chance of having interest in
> something? a user of that something. So all that stuff might just not
> be completely wrong, and taken as a possible (if not probable)
> estimation.

If you search for something, most likely you're already using that
something and have a problem with it.  Should this trend be taken as an
indication that the number of Cygwin problems is decreasing? ;-)

> Google's power is intriguing, to say the least.

...and confusing.  But all in due time. :-)
	Igor
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RE: Beware of falling... cygwins?

[Dave Korn]

On 12 May 2006 14:18, Igor Peshansky wrote:

> On Fri, 12 May 2006, Lloeki wrote:
> 
>> and of course, we're talking about searches, not users, but I made the
>> rough assumption that when you search for something, it's because of
>> interest in it, and who has the biggest chance of having interest in
>> something? a user of that something. So all that stuff might just not
>> be completely wrong, and taken as a possible (if not probable)
>> estimation.
> 
> If you search for something, most likely you're already using that
> something and have a problem with it.  Should this trend be taken as an
> indication that the number of Cygwin problems is decreasing? ;-)


  I think the overall evidence just goes to show that everyone's forgotten how
to STFW before posting their questions....


    cheers,
      DaveK
-- 
Can't think of a witty .sigline today....

RE: Beware of falling... cygwins?

[Igor Peshansky]

On Fri, 12 May 2006, Dave Korn wrote:

> On 12 May 2006 14:18, Igor Peshansky wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 12 May 2006, Lloeki wrote:
> >
> >> and of course, we're talking about searches, not users, but I made the
> >> rough assumption that when you search for something, it's because of
> >> interest in it, and who has the biggest chance of having interest in
> >> something? a user of that something. So all that stuff might just not
> >> be completely wrong, and taken as a possible (if not probable)
> >> estimation.
> >
> > If you search for something, most likely you're already using that
> > something and have a problem with it.  Should this trend be taken as an
> > indication that the number of Cygwin problems is decreasing? ;-)
>
>   I think the overall evidence just goes to show that everyone's
> forgotten how to STFW before posting their questions....

Just shows that we need to use that acronym *much* more often on the
lists...
	Igor
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