Re: A FAQ regarding defrag and permissions of nonadmin files?

Re: A FAQ regarding defrag and permissions of nonadmin files?

[Brian Dessent]

Gmane User wrote:

> I must have missed that 3 seconds.  But at the bottom, there is a line
> of dashes that never changed for the duration of the activity.  I
> believe it was prefixed with a label having to do with "analysis".  I
> am trying again with specificatin of "*" in the file inclusion list.

WHY?!?  This whole boot-time defrag is totally missing the point.  I
mentioned it as a throwaway point as a consequence of the fact that
UltraDefrag has a native interface.  It is is NO way required to use the
boot time option to defragment files.  Using the normal online GUI
defrag, the program should be able to defragment any and all files
regardless of owner or permissions, subject only to files being in-use
and locked exclusive.  Any decent defragger should be able to do this. 
Certainly it appears that the built-in defrag and JkDefrag do not
qualify as decent.

Brian

Re: A FAQ regarding defrag and permissions of nonadmin files?

[Gmane User]

Brian Dessent wrote:
 > Gmane User wrote:
 >>
 >> I must have missed that 3 seconds.  But at the bottom, there is a
 >> line of dashes that never changed for the duration of the activity.
 >> I believe it was prefixed with a label having to do with
 >> "analysis".  I am trying again with specificatin of "*" in the file
 >> inclusion list.
 >
 > WHY?!?  This whole boot-time defrag is totally missing the point.  I
 > mentioned it as a throwaway point as a consequence of the fact that
 > UltraDefrag has a native interface.  It is is NO way required to use
 > the boot time option to defragment files.  Using the normal online
 > GUI defrag, the program should be able to defragment any and all
 > files regardless of owner or permissions, subject only to files
 > being in-use and locked exclusive.  Any decent defragger should be
 > able to do this.  Certainly it appears that the built-in defrag and
 > JkDefrag do not qualify as decent.

I specified boot time because the general idea that I've had up to now
(rightly or wrongly) is that the fewer processes running, the better
the defrag.  And at the time, there didn't seem to be any reason to
prefer the not-boot-time route.

Since then, I've found out more about Ultra Defragmenter.  Aside from
the fact that "*" doesn't allow it to defrag the problematic user
application files, when I try to launch Ultra Defragmenter from the
admin account in safe mode, it cannot find a driver.  It only launches
after a normal boot.  By then, many processes are already running,
some of which I don't want to mess around with.  The latter includes
the corporately configured Symantec AV, which will interfere with the
defrag.

Barring further clues about the cause of the problematic files, it
looks as if trialing Diskeeper is the next step.

Thanks for your thoughts.