Re: Cat permissions

Re: Cat permissions

[Warren Young]

The cat does not have permission to shred upholstery.

The cat does not have permission to sleep on my PC, dropping hair into 
its power supply.

The cat does not have permission to be in the kitchen.  Ever.

The cat does not have permission to stand at the heels of people who 
wish to walk backwards.

Re: Cat permissions

[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 04:55:38AM -0600, Warren Young wrote:
>The cat does not have permission to shred upholstery.
>
>The cat does not have permission to sleep on my PC, dropping hair into
>its power supply.
>
>The cat does not have permission to be in the kitchen.  Ever.
>
>The cat does not have permission to stand at the heels of people who
>wish to walk backwards.

I'm sorry but I don't think any of the above is POSIX compliant.  You
seem to have messed with your cat configuration.  POSIX dictates much
more permissive cat access.

cgf

Re: Cat permissions

[Warren Young]

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry but I don't think any of the above is POSIX compliant.  You
> seem to have messed with your cat configuration.  POSIX dictates much
> more permissive cat access.

The admins at our site have decided on stronger security restrictions 
for the safety of both the users and the cat.  If you don't lock down 
your cat, one or both of these stakeholder groups is likely to get hurt.

Re: Cat permissions

[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:17:54AM -0600, Warren Young wrote:
> Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> I'm sorry but I don't think any of the above is POSIX compliant.  You
>> seem to have messed with your cat configuration.  POSIX dictates much
>> more permissive cat access.
>
> The admins at our site have decided on stronger security restrictions for 
> the safety of both the users and the cat.  If you don't lock down your cat, 
> one or both of these stakeholder groups is likely to get hurt.

As long as you know what you're doing.  Please don't complain to this
mailing list with requests for dealing with nocturnal cat denial of skin
(DOS) attacks, however.

cgf

RE: Cat permissions

[Dave Korn]

Warren Young wrote on 17 July 2008 11:56:

> The cat does not have permission to shred upholstery.
> 
> The cat does not have permission to sleep on my PC, dropping hair into
> its power supply.
> 
> The cat does not have permission to be in the kitchen.  Ever.
> 
> The cat does not have permission to stand at the heels of people who
> wish to walk backwards.

  LOL, that's cute!  Albeit based on a terrible misapprehension.




  <sotto voce> How long do you suppose before he figures out who's really in
charge round here?

    cheers,
      DaveK
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Re: Cat permissions

[Igor Peshansky]

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 04:55:38AM -0600, Warren Young wrote:
> >The cat does not have permission to shred upholstery.
> >
> >The cat does not have permission to sleep on my PC, dropping hair into
> >its power supply.
> >
> >The cat does not have permission to be in the kitchen.  Ever.
> >
> >The cat does not have permission to stand at the heels of people who
> >wish to walk backwards.
>
> I'm sorry but I don't think any of the above is POSIX compliant.  You
> seem to have messed with your cat configuration.  POSIX dictates much
> more permissive cat access.

Besides, isn't cat always supposed to open things in binary mode?
	Igor
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Re: Cat permissions

[Robert Pendell]

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Igor Peshansky wrote:
| On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Christopher Faylor wrote:
|
|> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 04:55:38AM -0600, Warren Young wrote:
|>> The cat does not have permission to shred upholstery.
|>>
|>> The cat does not have permission to sleep on my PC, dropping hair into
|>> its power supply.
|>>
|>> The cat does not have permission to be in the kitchen.  Ever.
|>>
|>> The cat does not have permission to stand at the heels of people who
|>> wish to walk backwards.
|> I'm sorry but I don't think any of the above is POSIX compliant.  You
|> seem to have messed with your cat configuration.  POSIX dictates much
|> more permissive cat access.
|
| Besides, isn't cat always supposed to open things in binary mode?
| 	Igor

cat response.txt:
01101101 01100001 01111001 01100010 01100101 00100000 01100010 01110101
01110100 00100000 01110111 01101000 01111001 00100000 01110111 01101111
01110101 01101100 01100100 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01110111
01100001 01101110 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01110010
01100101 01100001 01100100 00100000 01101111 01101110 01101100 01111001
00100000 01111010 01100101 01110010 01101111 01110011 00100000 01100001
01101110 01100100 00100000 01101111 01101110 01100101 01110011 00111111

(google for binary to ascii converter -- spaced in groups of 8 in order
to allow text wrapping)

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RE: Cat permissions

[Dave Korn]

Robert Pendell wrote on 23 July 2008 17:18:

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> Igor Peshansky wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 04:55:38AM -0600, Warren Young wrote:
>>>> The cat does not have permission to shred upholstery.
>>>> 
>>>> The cat does not have permission to sleep on my PC, dropping hair into
>>>> its power supply. 
>>>> 
>>>> The cat does not have permission to be in the kitchen.  Ever.
>>>> 
>>>> The cat does not have permission to stand at the heels of people who
>>>> wish to walk backwards.
>>> I'm sorry but I don't think any of the above is POSIX compliant.  You
>>> seem to have messed with your cat configuration.  POSIX dictates much
>>> more permissive cat access.
>> 
>> Besides, isn't cat always supposed to open things in binary mode?
>> 	Igor
> 
> cat response.txt:
> 01101101 01100001 01111001 01100010 01100101 00100000 01100010 01110101
> 01110100 00100000 01110111 01101000 01111001 00100000 01110111 01101111
> 01110101 01101100 01100100 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01110111
> 01100001 01101110 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01110010
> 01100101 01100001 01100100 00100000 01101111 01101110 01101100 01111001
> 00100000 01111010 01100101 01110010 01101111 01110011 00100000 01100001
> 01101110 01100100 00100000 01101111 01101110 01100101 01110011 00111111

  <kryten>That reminds me of an old android saying...</kryten>
 
> (google for binary to ascii converter -- spaced in groups of 8 in order
> to allow text wrapping)

  Nahhh, that's not the way i do things.  Search and replace:

sed -e 's/ 0111/ 7/g' -e 's/ 0110/ 6/g' -e 's/ 0101/ 5/g' -e 's/ 0100/ 4/g'

> 61101 60001 71001 60010 60101 00100000 60010 70101
> 70100 00100000 70111 61000 71001 00100000 70111 61111
> 70101 61100 60100 00100000 61001 70100 00100000 70111
> 60001 61110 70100 00100000 70100 61111 00100000 70010
> 60101 60001 60100 00100000 61111 61110 61100 71001
> 00100000 71010 60101 70010 61111 70011 00100000 60001
> 61110 60100 00100000 61111 61110 60101 70011 00111111

sed -e 's/0111 /7 /g' -e 's/0110 /6 /g' -e 's/0101 /5 /g' -e 's/0100 /4 /g'

> 61101 60001 71001 60010 65 00100000 60010 70101
> 74 00100000 77 61000 71001 00100000 77 61111
> 75 61100 64 00100000 61001 74 00100000 70111
> 60001 61110 74 00100000 74 61111 00100000 70010
> 65 60001 64 00100000 61111 61110 61100 71001
> 00100000 71010 65 70010 61111 70011 00100000 60001
> 61110 64 00100000 61111 61110 65 70011 00111111

sed -e 's/1101 /D /g' -e 's/0001 /1 /g' -e 's/0010 /2 /g' -e 's/ 0010/ 2/g'

> 6D 61 71001 62 65 20000 62 70101
> 74 20000 77 61000 71001 20000 77 61111
> 75 61100 64 20000 61001 74 20000 70111
> 61 61110 74 20000 74 61111 20000 70010
> 65 61 64 20000 61111 61110 61100 71001
> 20000 71010 65 72 61111 70011 20000 60001
> 61110 64 20000 61111 61110 65 70011 00111111

sed -e 's/1001 /9 /g' -e 's/0000 /0 /g' -e 's/1100 /C /g' -e 's/1110 /E /g'

> 6D 61 79 62 65 20 62 70101
> 74 20 77 61000 79 20 77 61111
> 75 6C 64 20 69 74 20 70111
> 61 6E 74 20 74 61111 20 70010
> 65 61 64 20 61111 6E 6C 71001
> 20 71010 65 72 61111 70011 20 60001
> 6E 64 20 61111 6E 65 70011 00111111

sed -e 's/1010 /A /g' -e 's/1111$/F/g' -e 's/0101 /5 /g' -e 's/0111$/7/g'

> 6D 61 79 62 65 20 62 70101
> 74 20 77 61000 79 20 77 6F
> 75 6C 64 20 69 74 20 77
> 61 6E 74 20 74 6F 20 70010
> 65 61 64 20 6F 6E 6C 71001
> 20 7A 65 72 6F 70011 20 60001
> 6E 64 20 6F 6E 65 70011 0011F

sed -e 's/0011/3/g' -e 's/1001/9/g' -e 's/0101/5/g' -e 's/0010/2/g' \
	-e 's/1000/8/g' -e 's/0001/1/g'

> 6D 61 79 62 65 20 62 75
> 74 20 77 68 79 20 77 6F
> 75 6C 64 20 69 74 20 77
> 61 6E 74 20 74 6F 20 72
> 65 61 64 20 6F 6E 6C 79
> 20 7A 65 72 6F 73 20 61
> 6E 64 20 6F 6E 65 73 3F

 <manual translate the last bit>

> 6D 61 79 62 65 20 62 75
   m  a  y  b  e     b  u

> 74 20 77 68 79 20 77 6F
   t     w  h  y     w  o

> 75 6C 64 20 69 74 20 77
   u  l  d     i  t     w

> 61 6E 74 20 74 6F 20 72
   a  n  t     t  o     r

> 65 61 64 20 6F 6E 6C 79
   e  a  d     o  n  l  y

> 20 7A 65 72 6F 73 20 61
      z  e  r  o  s     a

> 6E 64 20 6F 6E 65 73 3F
   n  d     o  n  e  s  ?


  Oh!  Now why didn't you say that in the first place?  Surely the answer is
obvious?

    cheers,
      DaveK
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Re: Cat permissions

[Andrew Louie]

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Dave Korn <> wrote:
>
>  Nahhh, that's not the way i do things.  Search and replace:

$perl -ne '@c=split; map(a($_),@c);sub a{print chr(ord(pack('B8',$_)));}'

maybe but why would it want to read only zeros and ones?

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RE: Cat permissions

[Dave Korn]

Andrew Louie wrote on 23 July 2008 20:06:

> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Dave Korn <> wrote:
>> 
>>  Nahhh, that's not the way i do things.  Search and replace:
> 
> $perl -ne '@c=split; map(a($_),@c);sub a{print chr(ord(pack('B8',$_)));}'
> 
> maybe but why would it want to read only zeros and ones?

  Well, cats can't read at all, so they don't care or even know that it's
only zeros and ones.

    cheers,
      DaveK
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Re: Cat permissions

[Robert Pendell]

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Dave Korn wrote:
| Andrew Louie wrote on 23 July 2008 20:06:
|
|> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Dave Korn <> wrote:
|>>  Nahhh, that's not the way i do things.  Search and replace:
|> $perl -ne '@c=split; map(a($_),@c);sub a{print chr(ord(pack('B8',$_)));}'
|>
|> maybe but why would it want to read only zeros and ones?
|
|   Well, cats can't read at all, so they don't care or even know that it's
| only zeros and ones.
|
|     cheers,
|       DaveK

Lol.  Kinda interesting the approach you both made to decode it.  I did
it as a joke because Igor said "isn't cat always supposed to open things
~ in binary mode?" which would be zeros and ones...

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Re: Cat permissions

[Matthew Woehlke]

(Yeah, I know this is old, but I couldn't resist.)

Warren Young wrote:
> The cat does not have permission to shred upholstery.
> 
> The cat does not have permission to sleep on my PC, dropping hair into 
> its power supply.

Hmm, good thing I'm in the process of phasing out the CRT.

The cat also does not have permission to lick my LCD (there's a *reason* 
I spent good money putting a pane of glass over it) nor to sit in front 
of it making it impossible to work... but that hasn't stopped her yet. 
Sigh :-).

> The cat does not have permission to be in the kitchen.  Ever.

Hehe, their food dish is currently on my kitchen counter ;-). (Plus I 
enter and exit via the kitchen; I like that they're either already 
standing on the table waiting for me, or show up there within seconds.)

> The cat does not have permission to stand at the heels of people who 
> wish to walk backwards.

Odd how much trouble they seem to have learning this, isn't it?

(Warren: on that note, do you mind if these wind up in my .sig, and if 
that's ok, is putting your name next to them also ok?)

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