Re: XFree86 4.3.0 and AltGr

Re: XFree86 4.3.0 and AltGr

[Philippe Auclair]

Hi,

Gosh, what an exciting thread about "Proper attribution of patches"!

Now, to the point... As many Europeans, as Michael Lipp said, "I stumbled
over the not-working AltGr" (I have a French keyboard, and a Windows XP
box).

After various unsuccessful tries with XF86Config, I had a good look at the
results of xev. The xev downloaded with Cygwin XFree, and xev on Sun Solaris
give similar results: when I press the single key AltGr, xev says:
KeyPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xc00001,
    root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 2826093, (105,60), root:(899,527),
    state 0x10, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""

KeyPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xc00001,
    root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 2826093, (105,60), root:(899,527),
    state 0x14, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen
YES,
    XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""

I then tried xmodmap with the following commands:
clear Mod5
keycode 113 = Mode_switch
add Mod3 = Mode_switch

-> result when pressing AltGr: keycode 37 (Control_L) + keycode 113
(Mode_switch)

Of course, xterm or emacs don't understand... OK, well is there an unused
key at the bottom of the keyboard?
XFree doesn't see the "Windows " key at all, but I have a key which, when
pressed in a Windows application, does the same as right click. xev sees
this key as keycode 101. So I feed this into xmodmap:
clear Mod5
keycode 101 = Mode_switch
add Mod3 = Mode_switch
keycode 10 = ampersand 1
keycode 11 = eacute 2 asciitilde
keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign
keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft
keycode 14 = parenleft 5 bracketleft
keycode 15 = minus 6 bar
keycode 16 = egrave 7 grave
keycode 17 = underscore 8 backslash
keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 asciicircum
keycode 19 = agrave 0 at
keycode 20 = parenright degree bracketright
keycode 21 = equal plus braceright

Bingo! xterm and emacs work!  Except I use this odd key instead of AltGr,
which I *REALLY* would prefer.

Hope this helps...

Philippe Auclair
**********************************************
Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique
Unité Centrale Informatique de Jouy
Domaine de Vilvert, 78352 Jouy-en-Josas CEDEX, France
Philippe.Auclair@jouy.inra.fr
tel +33 1 34 65 26 95, fax +33 1 34 65 24 03
**********************************************

Re: XFree86 4.3.0 and AltGr

[Harold L Hunt II]

Do you have any Windows Power Toys (e.g. TweakUI) installed?

Harold

Philippe Auclair wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Gosh, what an exciting thread about "Proper attribution of patches"!
> 
> Now, to the point... As many Europeans, as Michael Lipp said, "I stumbled
> over the not-working AltGr" (I have a French keyboard, and a Windows XP
> box).
> 
> After various unsuccessful tries with XF86Config, I had a good look at the
> results of xev. The xev downloaded with Cygwin XFree, and xev on Sun Solaris
> give similar results: when I press the single key AltGr, xev says:
> KeyPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xc00001,
>     root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 2826093, (105,60), root:(899,527),
>     state 0x10, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES,
>     XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""
> 
> KeyPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xc00001,
>     root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 2826093, (105,60), root:(899,527),
>     state 0x14, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen
> YES,
>     XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""
> 
> I then tried xmodmap with the following commands:
> clear Mod5
> keycode 113 = Mode_switch
> add Mod3 = Mode_switch
> 
> -> result when pressing AltGr: keycode 37 (Control_L) + keycode 113
> (Mode_switch)
> 
> Of course, xterm or emacs don't understand... OK, well is there an unused
> key at the bottom of the keyboard?
> XFree doesn't see the "Windows " key at all, but I have a key which, when
> pressed in a Windows application, does the same as right click. xev sees
> this key as keycode 101. So I feed this into xmodmap:
> clear Mod5
> keycode 101 = Mode_switch
> add Mod3 = Mode_switch
> keycode 10 = ampersand 1
> keycode 11 = eacute 2 asciitilde
> keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign
> keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft
> keycode 14 = parenleft 5 bracketleft
> keycode 15 = minus 6 bar
> keycode 16 = egrave 7 grave
> keycode 17 = underscore 8 backslash
> keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 asciicircum
> keycode 19 = agrave 0 at
> keycode 20 = parenright degree bracketright
> keycode 21 = equal plus braceright
> 
> Bingo! xterm and emacs work!  Except I use this odd key instead of AltGr,
> which I *REALLY* would prefer.
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> Philippe Auclair
> **********************************************
> Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique
> Unité Centrale Informatique de Jouy
> Domaine de Vilvert, 78352 Jouy-en-Josas CEDEX, France
> Philippe.Auclair@jouy.inra.fr
> tel +33 1 34 65 26 95, fax +33 1 34 65 24 03
> **********************************************
> 
> 

Re: XFree86 4.3.0 and AltGr

[Harold L Hunt II]

I believe I have found just the right amount of magic to fix this once 
and for all.  Please stay tuned to test the new release.

Harold

Philippe Auclair wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Gosh, what an exciting thread about "Proper attribution of patches"!
> 
> Now, to the point... As many Europeans, as Michael Lipp said, "I stumbled
> over the not-working AltGr" (I have a French keyboard, and a Windows XP
> box).
> 
> After various unsuccessful tries with XF86Config, I had a good look at the
> results of xev. The xev downloaded with Cygwin XFree, and xev on Sun Solaris
> give similar results: when I press the single key AltGr, xev says:
> KeyPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xc00001,
>     root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 2826093, (105,60), root:(899,527),
>     state 0x10, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES,
>     XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""
> 
> KeyPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xc00001,
>     root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 2826093, (105,60), root:(899,527),
>     state 0x14, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen
> YES,
>     XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""
> 
> I then tried xmodmap with the following commands:
> clear Mod5
> keycode 113 = Mode_switch
> add Mod3 = Mode_switch
> 
> -> result when pressing AltGr: keycode 37 (Control_L) + keycode 113
> (Mode_switch)
> 
> Of course, xterm or emacs don't understand... OK, well is there an unused
> key at the bottom of the keyboard?
> XFree doesn't see the "Windows " key at all, but I have a key which, when
> pressed in a Windows application, does the same as right click. xev sees
> this key as keycode 101. So I feed this into xmodmap:
> clear Mod5
> keycode 101 = Mode_switch
> add Mod3 = Mode_switch
> keycode 10 = ampersand 1
> keycode 11 = eacute 2 asciitilde
> keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign
> keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft
> keycode 14 = parenleft 5 bracketleft
> keycode 15 = minus 6 bar
> keycode 16 = egrave 7 grave
> keycode 17 = underscore 8 backslash
> keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 asciicircum
> keycode 19 = agrave 0 at
> keycode 20 = parenright degree bracketright
> keycode 21 = equal plus braceright
> 
> Bingo! xterm and emacs work!  Except I use this odd key instead of AltGr,
> which I *REALLY* would prefer.
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> Philippe Auclair
> **********************************************
> Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique
> Unité Centrale Informatique de Jouy
> Domaine de Vilvert, 78352 Jouy-en-Josas CEDEX, France
> Philippe.Auclair@jouy.inra.fr
> tel +33 1 34 65 26 95, fax +33 1 34 65 24 03
> **********************************************
> 
> 

Re: XFree86 4.3.0 and AltGr

[Harold L Hunt II]

Okay, XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-29 has just been posted.  Please try it and 
somebody please tell me whether it fixes the problem for them or not.

Harold

Harold L Hunt II wrote:

> I believe I have found just the right amount of magic to fix this once 
> and for all.  Please stay tuned to test the new release.
> 
> Harold
> 
> Philippe Auclair wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> Gosh, what an exciting thread about "Proper attribution of patches"!
>>
>> Now, to the point... As many Europeans, as Michael Lipp said, "I stumbled
>> over the not-working AltGr" (I have a French keyboard, and a Windows XP
>> box).
>>
>> After various unsuccessful tries with XF86Config, I had a good look at 
>> the
>> results of xev. The xev downloaded with Cygwin XFree, and xev on Sun 
>> Solaris
>> give similar results: when I press the single key AltGr, xev says:
>> KeyPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xc00001,
>>     root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 2826093, (105,60), root:(899,527),
>>     state 0x10, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES,
>>     XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""
>>
>> KeyPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xc00001,
>>     root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 2826093, (105,60), root:(899,527),
>>     state 0x14, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), 
>> same_screen
>> YES,
>>     XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""
>>
>> I then tried xmodmap with the following commands:
>> clear Mod5
>> keycode 113 = Mode_switch
>> add Mod3 = Mode_switch
>>
>> -> result when pressing AltGr: keycode 37 (Control_L) + keycode 113
>> (Mode_switch)
>>
>> Of course, xterm or emacs don't understand... OK, well is there an unused
>> key at the bottom of the keyboard?
>> XFree doesn't see the "Windows " key at all, but I have a key which, when
>> pressed in a Windows application, does the same as right click. xev sees
>> this key as keycode 101. So I feed this into xmodmap:
>> clear Mod5
>> keycode 101 = Mode_switch
>> add Mod3 = Mode_switch
>> keycode 10 = ampersand 1
>> keycode 11 = eacute 2 asciitilde
>> keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign
>> keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft
>> keycode 14 = parenleft 5 bracketleft
>> keycode 15 = minus 6 bar
>> keycode 16 = egrave 7 grave
>> keycode 17 = underscore 8 backslash
>> keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 asciicircum
>> keycode 19 = agrave 0 at
>> keycode 20 = parenright degree bracketright
>> keycode 21 = equal plus braceright
>>
>> Bingo! xterm and emacs work!  Except I use this odd key instead of AltGr,
>> which I *REALLY* would prefer.
>>
>> Hope this helps...
>>
>> Philippe Auclair
>> **********************************************
>> Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique
>> Unité Centrale Informatique de Jouy
>> Domaine de Vilvert, 78352 Jouy-en-Josas CEDEX, France
>> Philippe.Auclair@jouy.inra.fr
>> tel +33 1 34 65 26 95, fax +33 1 34 65 24 03
>> **********************************************
>>
>>
> 

Re: XFree86 4.3.0 and AltGr

[Harold L Hunt II]

Can somebody confirm for me whether or not this fixes the AltGr problems 
for them with TweakUI?

Harold

Harold L Hunt II wrote:

> Okay, XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-29 has just been posted.  Please try it and 
> somebody please tell me whether it fixes the problem for them or not.
> 
> Harold
> 
> Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> 
>> I believe I have found just the right amount of magic to fix this once 
>> and for all.  Please stay tuned to test the new release.
>>
>> Harold
>>
>> Philippe Auclair wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Gosh, what an exciting thread about "Proper attribution of patches"!
>>>
>>> Now, to the point... As many Europeans, as Michael Lipp said, "I 
>>> stumbled
>>> over the not-working AltGr" (I have a French keyboard, and a Windows XP
>>> box).
>>>
>>> After various unsuccessful tries with XF86Config, I had a good look 
>>> at the
>>> results of xev. The xev downloaded with Cygwin XFree, and xev on Sun 
>>> Solaris
>>> give similar results: when I press the single key AltGr, xev says:
>>> KeyPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xc00001,
>>>     root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 2826093, (105,60), root:(899,527),
>>>     state 0x10, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES,
>>>     XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""
>>>
>>> KeyPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xc00001,
>>>     root 0x3a, subw 0x0, time 2826093, (105,60), root:(899,527),
>>>     state 0x14, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), 
>>> same_screen
>>> YES,
>>>     XLookupString gives 0 characters:  ""
>>>
>>> I then tried xmodmap with the following commands:
>>> clear Mod5
>>> keycode 113 = Mode_switch
>>> add Mod3 = Mode_switch
>>>
>>> -> result when pressing AltGr: keycode 37 (Control_L) + keycode 113
>>> (Mode_switch)
>>>
>>> Of course, xterm or emacs don't understand... OK, well is there an 
>>> unused
>>> key at the bottom of the keyboard?
>>> XFree doesn't see the "Windows " key at all, but I have a key which, 
>>> when
>>> pressed in a Windows application, does the same as right click. xev sees
>>> this key as keycode 101. So I feed this into xmodmap:
>>> clear Mod5
>>> keycode 101 = Mode_switch
>>> add Mod3 = Mode_switch
>>> keycode 10 = ampersand 1
>>> keycode 11 = eacute 2 asciitilde
>>> keycode 12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign
>>> keycode 13 = apostrophe 4 braceleft
>>> keycode 14 = parenleft 5 bracketleft
>>> keycode 15 = minus 6 bar
>>> keycode 16 = egrave 7 grave
>>> keycode 17 = underscore 8 backslash
>>> keycode 18 = ccedilla 9 asciicircum
>>> keycode 19 = agrave 0 at
>>> keycode 20 = parenright degree bracketright
>>> keycode 21 = equal plus braceright
>>>
>>> Bingo! xterm and emacs work!  Except I use this odd key instead of 
>>> AltGr,
>>> which I *REALLY* would prefer.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps...
>>>
>>> Philippe Auclair
>>> **********************************************
>>> Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique
>>> Unité Centrale Informatique de Jouy
>>> Domaine de Vilvert, 78352 Jouy-en-Josas CEDEX, France
>>> Philippe.Auclair@jouy.inra.fr
>>> tel +33 1 34 65 26 95, fax +33 1 34 65 24 03
>>> **********************************************
>>>
>>>
>>
> 

XFree86 4.3.0 and AltGr

[Michael Lipp]

Hi,

I downloaded cygwin yesterday and stumbled over the not-working AltGr. I 
searched the archives (I emphasize this as it seems you get praised on 
this list for doing so ;-) ) and got some news.

In my case, the problem shows up a bit differently. I have Windows2000 
and no power toys or tweakUI installed (whatever those are). AltGr seems 
to work in general, i.e. if I press AltGr and "+"-key twice, I get a "~" 
(or AltGr-+ and space). So this is what you expect from a keyborad with 
dead keys. XEmacs, however, considers AltGr a real key instead of a 
modified, i.e. every time I press AltGr I get a message about an 
undefined key.

As I want nodeadkeys, I changed XF86Config-4, including the variant 
nodeadkeys. Nothing changed. So I intended to play around with some 
options and in order to avoid restarting the server every time, I 
assembled my "base" command: "xsetxkbmap -rules xfree86 -model pc105 
-layout de -variant nodeadkeys". This is just what's written in my 
XF86Config-4. To my suprise this was it. I.e. after executing this 
command, everything works.

So obviously, xwin is not really configured as stated in XF86Config-4 
after startup.

Regards,

     Michael