Re: New XFree pages: "cygwin.com/xfree"

Re: New XFree pages: "cygwin.com/xfree"

[Don V Black]

Harold -

Thanks for the reply.

The part I do not understand is here, in step 16:

"16.  You must select the XFree86-base package, which is located in the 
XFree86 category.
       The XFree86-base package is a helper package that automatically 
selects a working set
       of packages for you that will allow Cygwin/X to work. You may also 
want to ensure that
       the inetutils and openssh packages are selected if you wish to use 
telnet and ssh to
       connect to remote machines."

Can anybody answer this simple question...

How do I "select" the XFree86-base package?  Entirely by accident, I 
toggled the
XFree86 entry so that it displayed "install".  So I then ensured that all 
the sub-entries
were likewise set to "install". Following the "installation complete" 
message, there are
still no file names on my harddisk containing 'xfree' or 
'startx'.  Apparently I did not
properly perform the "select" operation (or "grab" as you mention, below).

Can you please elaborate on step 16.

Thanks again,
- Don

At 11:03 PM 12/30/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Don,
>
>Here are installation and use instructions:
>
>http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/cygwin-xfree-ug.html
>
>
>
>Don V Black wrote:
>>Have you tested the new X webapge?
>>Specifically, have you tested the X-windows
>>download?
>
>Of course.
>
>>I tried the download & install.  All I got was the
>>non-X-windows Cygwin.  I then re-installed from
>>the cygwin/X page selecting 'install' for ALL the
>>pacakges.  I got a few 'dll not found' messages
>>during the install.  When finished, I could not
>>find any files whose names contained 'xstart',
>>starx or 'xfree' either via WIn2K File Search, or
>>via Cygwin's locate command.
>
>You must have missed this line:
>
>Whether or not you already have Cygwin installed, you can add Cygwin/X to 
>your installation by downloading the latest setup.exe, running setup, and 
>selecting the 'XFree86-base' package from the 'XFree86' category.
>
>Tons of irrelevant information was removed from the Cygwin/X home page to 
>make the installation information more readily visible.  I don't think we 
>have had a report of the home page being confusing in over a year.
>
>>Also, the "X Window System" link does not work,
>>and there is no avenue to report these problems.
>
>Thanks.  That just needs to be www.x.org. I'll fix it later.
>
>>I am trying to access Linux XFree86 from my Win2K
>>system (without using VNC or XWin32). I had hoped that
>>cygwin/X could handle this.  However, I cannot even install
>>it.  Both of your "Install" links go to the cygwin.com home
>>page. Can you direct me to documentation that will instruct
>>me on installation of a form that will allow me to run an
>>X-Client from Win2K?  Thanks.
>
>No, both of the install links go to http://cygwin.com/setup.exe, which is 
>the installation program.  The text in the page clearly says to grab the 
>XFree86-base package, which will select all dependent packages.
>
>There are two ways to access remote machines, via XDMCP or via ssh, both 
>of which are documented for Cygwin/X in the User's Guide:
>
>http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html
>http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html#using-remote-apps-ssh
>
>There is also a sample startup file to be used for XDMCP connections:
>
>/usr/X11R6/bin/startxdmcp.bat
>
>
>I hope this helps,
>
>Harold


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cygwin/xfree installation questions

[Don V Black]

Hi Folks -

Thanks in advance for any help.

While installing (uninstall then install Xfree86 packages in Win2K) I get 
the error:

"mkshortcut.exe - Unable to Locate DLL

The dynamic link library cygopt-0.dll could not be found in the specified path
D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;D:\WINNT\system32;D:\WINNT\system;D:\WINNT;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin\D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;[ 
]y,[ ]."

while in the "/etc/postinstall/XFree86-bin-icons.sh" step.

Notes:
1) D:\Win2KPro is my 'program files' directory (its a dual boot),
     D:\WINNT is my Win2K (Win5.0) directory.
2) Note how cygwin\bin is repeated 5 times in the path.
     BTW, I have repeated this installation many times (maybe 5?)
3) The "[ ]" in "[ ]y,[ ]" of the path represent the DOS-BIOS square
     graphics character, and I have no clue as to where it came from.
     It could be from other installations?

The message reappeared more than 30 times during the install
(I counted my clicks on the OK button).

A "cygwin-XFree86" entry has been installed in my Win2K start menu,
but the 5 sub-menus (editors, ... toys) are empty.

I am not convinced that the installation was complete or correct.

I have attempted to invoke startxwin.sh as specified in Chapter 4
of the Cygwin/X documentation.  I receive the error message:

"xterm.exe - Unable to Locatte DLL
The dynamic link library cygcygipc-2.dll could not be found in the 
specified path
.... path information similar to above ...
"

Received the same information with "XWin.exe..."

Thanks in advance for any help.

- Don

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Re: cygwin/xfree installation questions

[Don V Black]

Deinstall the entire Cygwin installation, and
re-install Cygwin/X, as follows:

1) In the Select Packages panel (# 16 in the doc)
     Click On "Default" of "+All  .. Default" until
     Uninstall appears.
2) Click On the Next button, and proceed with the
     Uninstall.
3) Delete the contents of the directory that contained
     Cygwin (e.g. /Programs Files/Cygwin)

4) Restart the Setup.exe process.
5) In the Select Packages panel (# 16 in the doc)
     Click On "Default" of "+XFree866  .. Default" until
     Install appears.
6) Click On the Next button, and proceed with the
     Install.

The Cygwin/X documentation should now work.


===

At 07:12 AM 12/31/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi Folks -
>
>Thanks in advance for any help.
>
>While installing (uninstall then install Xfree86 packages in Win2K) I get 
>the error:
>
>"mkshortcut.exe - Unable to Locate DLL
>
>The dynamic link library cygopt-0.dll could not be found in the specified path
>D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;D:\WINNT\system32;D:\WINNT\system;D:\WINNT;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin\D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;[ 
>]y,[ ]."
>
>while in the "/etc/postinstall/XFree86-bin-icons.sh" step.
>
>Notes:
>1) D:\Win2KPro is my 'program files' directory (its a dual boot),
>     D:\WINNT is my Win2K (Win5.0) directory.
>2) Note how cygwin\bin is repeated 5 times in the path.
>     BTW, I have repeated this installation many times (maybe 5?)
>3) The "[ ]" in "[ ]y,[ ]" of the path represent the DOS-BIOS square
>     graphics character, and I have no clue as to where it came from.
>     It could be from other installations?
>
>The message reappeared more than 30 times during the install
>(I counted my clicks on the OK button).
>
>A "cygwin-XFree86" entry has been installed in my Win2K start menu,
>but the 5 sub-menus (editors, ... toys) are empty.
>
>I am not convinced that the installation was complete or correct.
>
>I have attempted to invoke startxwin.sh as specified in Chapter 4
>of the Cygwin/X documentation.  I receive the error message:
>
>"xterm.exe - Unable to Locatte DLL
>The dynamic link library cygcygipc-2.dll could not be found in the 
>specified path
>.... path information similar to above ...
>"
>
>Received the same information with "XWin.exe..."
>
>Thanks in advance for any help.
>
>- Don
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Re: cygwin/xfree installation questions

[Don V Black]

Harold -

I recommend that you include step # 5 in your documentation.
There was an assumption that the neophyte installer understood
how to 'select' or 'grab' (your words) the XFree86 modules.  I
encountered no such documentation in my brief meanderings
through the Cygwin/X site.

Step # 5, below corrects that oversight.
>>5) In the Select Packages panel (# 16 in the doc)
>>     Click On "Default" of "+XFree866  .. Default" until
>>     "+XFree86 .. Install" appears. This requires n clicks.

  - Don V Black
===
At 06:23 PM 12/31/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Don,
>
>Your initial installation of Cygwin was messed up.
>
>I cannot advocate an uninstall followed by a complete reinstall for 99% of 
>the users, since most users do not have a messed up installation. The 
>instructions that you provided below are not necessary for the majority of 
>users, so I won't be updating the installation instructions.
>
>I am glad, however, that you figured out your particular problem.
>
>Harold
>
>Don V Black wrote:
>
>>Deinstall the entire Cygwin installation, and
>>re-install Cygwin/X, as follows:
>>1) In the Select Packages panel (# 16 in the doc)
>>     Click On "Default" of "+All  .. Default" until
>>     Uninstall appears.
>>2) Click On the Next button, and proceed with the
>>     Uninstall.
>>3) Delete the contents of the directory that contained
>>     Cygwin (e.g. /Programs Files/Cygwin)
>>4) Restart the Setup.exe process.
>>5) In the Select Packages panel (# 16 in the doc)
>>     Click On "Default" of "+XFree866  .. Default" until
>>     Install appears.
>>6) Click On the Next button, and proceed with the
>>     Install.
>>The Cygwin/X documentation should now work.
>>
>>===
>>At 07:12 AM 12/31/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Folks -
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>
>>>While installing (uninstall then install Xfree86 packages in Win2K) I 
>>>get the error:
>>>
>>>"mkshortcut.exe - Unable to Locate DLL
>>>
>>>The dynamic link library cygopt-0.dll could not be found in the 
>>>specified path
>>>D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;D:\WINNT\system32;D:\WINNT\system;D:\WINNT;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin\D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;[ 
>>>]y,[ ]."
>>>
>>>while in the "/etc/postinstall/XFree86-bin-icons.sh" step.
>>>
>>>Notes:
>>>1) D:\Win2KPro is my 'program files' directory (its a dual boot),
>>>     D:\WINNT is my Win2K (Win5.0) directory.
>>>2) Note how cygwin\bin is repeated 5 times in the path.
>>>     BTW, I have repeated this installation many times (maybe 5?)
>>>3) The "[ ]" in "[ ]y,[ ]" of the path represent the DOS-BIOS square
>>>     graphics character, and I have no clue as to where it came from.
>>>     It could be from other installations?
>>>
>>>The message reappeared more than 30 times during the install
>>>(I counted my clicks on the OK button).
>>>
>>>A "cygwin-XFree86" entry has been installed in my Win2K start menu,
>>>but the 5 sub-menus (editors, ... toys) are empty.
>>>
>>>I am not convinced that the installation was complete or correct.
>>>
>>>I have attempted to invoke startxwin.sh as specified in Chapter 4
>>>of the Cygwin/X documentation.  I receive the error message:
>>>
>>>"xterm.exe - Unable to Locatte DLL
>>>The dynamic link library cygcygipc-2.dll could not be found in the 
>>>specified path
>>>.... path information similar to above ...
>>>"
>>>
>>>Received the same information with "XWin.exe..."
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>
>>>- Don
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Re: cygwin/xfree installation questions

[Harold L Hunt II]

Don,

That might be a good idea.

Thanks,

Harold

Don V Black wrote:
> Harold -
> 
> I recommend that you include step # 5 in your documentation.
> There was an assumption that the neophyte installer understood
> how to 'select' or 'grab' (your words) the XFree86 modules.  I
> encountered no such documentation in my brief meanderings
> through the Cygwin/X site.
> 
> Step # 5, below corrects that oversight.
> 
>>> 5) In the Select Packages panel (# 16 in the doc)
>>>     Click On "Default" of "+XFree866  .. Default" until
>>>     "+XFree86 .. Install" appears. This requires n clicks.
> 
> 
>  - Don V Black
> ===
> At 06:23 PM 12/31/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> 
>> Don,
>>
>> Your initial installation of Cygwin was messed up.
>>
>> I cannot advocate an uninstall followed by a complete reinstall for 
>> 99% of the users, since most users do not have a messed up 
>> installation. The instructions that you provided below are not 
>> necessary for the majority of users, so I won't be updating the 
>> installation instructions.
>>
>> I am glad, however, that you figured out your particular problem.
>>
>> Harold
>>
>> Don V Black wrote:
>>
>>> Deinstall the entire Cygwin installation, and
>>> re-install Cygwin/X, as follows:
>>> 1) In the Select Packages panel (# 16 in the doc)
>>>     Click On "Default" of "+All  .. Default" until
>>>     Uninstall appears.
>>> 2) Click On the Next button, and proceed with the
>>>     Uninstall.
>>> 3) Delete the contents of the directory that contained
>>>     Cygwin (e.g. /Programs Files/Cygwin)
>>> 4) Restart the Setup.exe process.
>>> 5) In the Select Packages panel (# 16 in the doc)
>>>     Click On "Default" of "+XFree866  .. Default" until
>>>     Install appears.
>>> 6) Click On the Next button, and proceed with the
>>>     Install.
>>> The Cygwin/X documentation should now work.
>>>
>>> ===
>>> At 07:12 AM 12/31/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Folks -
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>>
>>>> While installing (uninstall then install Xfree86 packages in Win2K) 
>>>> I get the error:
>>>>
>>>> "mkshortcut.exe - Unable to Locate DLL
>>>>
>>>> The dynamic link library cygopt-0.dll could not be found in the 
>>>> specified path
>>>> D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;D:\WINNT\system32;D:\WINNT\system;D:\WINNT;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin\D:\Win2KPro\cygwin\bin;[ 
>>>> ]y,[ ]."
>>>>
>>>> while in the "/etc/postinstall/XFree86-bin-icons.sh" step.
>>>>
>>>> Notes:
>>>> 1) D:\Win2KPro is my 'program files' directory (its a dual boot),
>>>>     D:\WINNT is my Win2K (Win5.0) directory.
>>>> 2) Note how cygwin\bin is repeated 5 times in the path.
>>>>     BTW, I have repeated this installation many times (maybe 5?)
>>>> 3) The "[ ]" in "[ ]y,[ ]" of the path represent the DOS-BIOS square
>>>>     graphics character, and I have no clue as to where it came from.
>>>>     It could be from other installations?
>>>>
>>>> The message reappeared more than 30 times during the install
>>>> (I counted my clicks on the OK button).
>>>>
>>>> A "cygwin-XFree86" entry has been installed in my Win2K start menu,
>>>> but the 5 sub-menus (editors, ... toys) are empty.
>>>>
>>>> I am not convinced that the installation was complete or correct.
>>>>
>>>> I have attempted to invoke startxwin.sh as specified in Chapter 4
>>>> of the Cygwin/X documentation.  I receive the error message:
>>>>
>>>> "xterm.exe - Unable to Locatte DLL
>>>> The dynamic link library cygcygipc-2.dll could not be found in the 
>>>> specified path
>>>> .... path information similar to above ...
>>>> "
>>>>
>>>> Received the same information with "XWin.exe..."
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>>
>>>> - Don
>>>>
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