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From: Jon TURNEY <jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk>
To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
Cc: Paul Maier <svn-user@web.de>
Subject: Re: AW: AW: 'de' keyboard layout issues
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 12:49:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <501FBD31.6070207@dronecode.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <001101cc81bf$8151f370$83f5da50$@de>

On 03/10/2011 12:27, Paul Maier wrote:
>>> In Windows, all blind keys followed by a space result in that character.
>>> Same in XWin, but with one exception:
>>> dead-´ plus space gives ' instead of ´.
>>>
>>> Please check out my patch for that.
>> [...] for files /usr/share/x11/locale/iso8859-1/Compose and
>   /usr/share/x11/locale/iso8859-15/Compose.
> 
>>
>> This patch makes sense to me, but doesn't seem to go far enough.  Since the
>> compose sequences are selected by the locale, this fixes things if
>> LANG=de_DE.iso8859-1 or LANG=de_DE.iso8859-15, but not if LANG=de_DE.UTF-8.
>>
>> I'll try to take another look when I'm back from my holiday :-)

Sorry, I lost track of this issue.

> agreed, my patch is a partial solution.
> 
> Is there an issue tracker in use, where we can put my patch and the idea behind it?

I would suggest you mail a patch to libX11 to the xorg-devel list [1],[2].

> agreed.
> But isn't a partial fix better than no fix?  8-)

I can't really evaluate if this change is correct or not, which is why I
suggest you take it to the xorg-devel list.

For example, after reading [3], I'm wondering if the reason for this behaviour
is that typists had the habit of pressing the acute key for an apostrophe.

On the one hand, it's been this way for at least 5 years, so people may be
used to this behaviour.  On the other hand, it's inconsistent with the rule
that <dead_foo> <space> produces <foo>, and inconsistent across locales what
this sequence produces:

jon@byron /jhbuild/checkout/xorg/lib/libX11/nls master
$ grep -r "^<dead_acute> <space>" *
el_GR.UTF-8/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <space>                    : "΄"   U0384
en_US.UTF-8/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <space>                    : "'"
apostrophe # APOSTROPHE
fi_FI.UTF-8/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <space>                    : "´"   #
ACUTE ACCENT
iso8859-1/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <space>                      : "'"   apostrophe
iso8859-14/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <space>                     : "'"   apostrophe
iso8859-15/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <space>                     : "'"   apostrophe
iso8859-2/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <space>                      : "\264"
  acute
iso8859-3/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <space>                      : "'"   apostrophe
iso8859-7/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <space>                      : "\264"
  acute
iso8859-9/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <space>                      : "'"   apostrophe
iso8859-9e/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <space>                     : "'"   apostrophe
pt_BR.UTF-8/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <space>                    : "'"   apostrophe
vi_VN.tcvn/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <space>                     : "'"   apostrophe
vi_VN.viscii/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <space>                   : "'"   apostrophe

[1] http://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg-devel
[2] http://www.x.org/wiki/DeveloperStart
[3] http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/apostrophe.html

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Jon TURNEY
Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-06 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <006301cc4fb3$2696d060$73c47120$@de>
2011-08-01 14:57 ` AltGr key mostly fires an additional CONTROL key Jon TURNEY
     [not found]   ` <000001cc5085$6b711fb0$42535f10$@de>
2011-08-03 13:15     ` AW: " Jon TURNEY
2011-08-04  2:22       ` AW: " Paul Maier
2011-08-08 15:32         ` 'de' keyboard layout issues (Re: AW: AW: AltGr key mostly fires an additional CONTROL key) Jon TURNEY
2011-08-08 23:17           ` AW: " Paul Maier
2011-08-10 12:12             ` Jon TURNEY
2011-08-12  6:49               ` Paul Maier
2011-08-16 13:10                 ` Jon TURNEY
2011-10-03 11:29                   ` AW: AW: 'de' keyboard layout issues Paul Maier
2012-08-06 12:49                     ` Jon TURNEY [this message]
2012-07-22  0:22                   ` Paul Maier
2012-08-06 12:22                   ` AW: 'de' keyboard layout issues (Re: AW: AW: AltGr key mostly fires an additional CONTROL key) Jon TURNEY
2011-10-03 10:16       ` AW: AW: AltGr key mostly fires an additional CONTROL key Paul Maier

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