font-misc-misc out of era

font-misc-misc out of era

[Thomas Wolff]

The X fonts in the package font-misc-misc is out-of-era, from ASCII times,
so that e.g. if you start xterm -fn 9x18 you wouldn't even see a Euro sign.
Please replace them with their Unicode versions from 
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs-fonts.html
Kindly appreciated
Thomas

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Re: font-misc-misc out of era

[Jon TURNEY]

On 20/09/2013 17:37, Thomas Wolff wrote:
> The X fonts in the package font-misc-misc is out-of-era, from ASCII times,
> so that e.g. if you start xterm -fn 9x18 you wouldn't even see a Euro sign.
> Please replace them with their Unicode versions from
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs-fonts.html

Markus Kuhn's X11 unicode bitmap fonts have been included in the upstream
X.Org package for some years (see [1])

This seems to be an issue with the font specification: "9x18" aliases to
"-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-koi8-r" (which I don't have
installed on my system, and probably doesn't have a euro character)

$ xterm -fn 9x18
Warning: Cannot convert string "9x18" to type FontStruct
xterm: cannot load font '9x18'
xterm: cannot load font '9x18'

but this works fine:

$ xterm -fn -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso10646-1

and I can type € with no problem.

We probably need to do something more intelligent than just using the upstream
font aliases package verbatim to fix this problem.

[1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/font/misc-misc/log/

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Re: font-misc-misc out of era

[Thomas Wolff]

Am 20.09.2013 19:21, schrieb Jon TURNEY:
> On 20/09/2013 17:37, Thomas Wolff wrote:
>> The X fonts in the package font-misc-misc is out-of-era, from ASCII times,
>> so that e.g. if you start xterm -fn 9x18 you wouldn't even see a Euro sign.
>> Please replace them with their Unicode versions from
>> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs-fonts.html
> Markus Kuhn's X11 unicode bitmap fonts have been included in the upstream
> X.Org package for some years (see [1])
Looking precisely, they are actually included in the cygwin 
font-misc-misc package, though in addition to small script-specific old 
versions. I think the latter should be removed to reduce confusion.

> This seems to be an issue with the font specification: "9x18" aliases to
> "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-koi8-r" (which I don't have
> installed on my system, and probably doesn't have a euro character)
I wonder why the font-alias package creates cyrillic/fonts.alias as the 
only language-specific subdirectory. The entries font there are 
ambiguous to those of misc/fonts.alias (with the exception of 9x18 which 
is not included in the latter). Looks somewhat weird.
Also I wonder whether the fonts.alias file shouldn't rather come with 
each respective package.

> $ xterm -fn 9x18
> Warning: Cannot convert string "9x18" to type FontStruct
> xterm: cannot load font '9x18'
> xterm: cannot load font '9x18'
>
> but this works fine:
>
> $ xterm -fn -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-120-100-100-c-90-iso10646-1
>
> and I can type € with no problem.
>
> We probably need to do something more intelligent than just using the upstream
> font aliases package verbatim to fix this problem.
>
> [1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/font/misc-misc/log/
>
Yes, simply the misc/fonts.alias file should alias 9x18 etc to the 
proper Unicode version, and the ambiguous entries elsewhere should be 
removed.
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Thomas

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Re: font-misc-misc out of era

[Jon TURNEY]

On 21/09/2013 18:25, Thomas Wolff wrote:
> Am 20.09.2013 19:21, schrieb Jon TURNEY:
>> On 20/09/2013 17:37, Thomas Wolff wrote:
>>> The X fonts in the package font-misc-misc is out-of-era, from ASCII times,
>>> so that e.g. if you start xterm -fn 9x18 you wouldn't even see a Euro sign.
>>> Please replace them with their Unicode versions from
>>> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs-fonts.html
>> Markus Kuhn's X11 unicode bitmap fonts have been included in the upstream
>> X.Org package for some years (see [1])
> Looking precisely, they are actually included in the cygwin font-misc-misc
> package, though in addition to small script-specific old versions. I think the
> latter should be removed to reduce confusion.

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are suggesting here.

Removing (for example) the ISO8859-1 encoded 9x18 font would seem to be a bad
idea, as that will break things for anything which is currently using the font
with that encoding?


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