Not all mans available

Not all mans available

[Robert Mark Bram]

Hi all!

When I try "man read" or "man diff" I am told by Cygwin "No manual entry for
read" or "No manual entry for diff".

Was there a setup option with Cygwin I didn't include in order to get all
the manuals?

Is there a way for to download them?

Thanks!

Rob

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Re: Not all mans available

[Eugene Rosenzweig]

I once asked along same lines and I was told that originally in GNU info was
going to be the replacement to man system... Why I am not sure but that must
have not worked out really well since half the stuff info digs up seems to
be manpages but without the eyecandy (highlighting and underline). Even when
at the bottom of the manpage it says, see info for complete documentation,
info still digs up same old manpage. The hypertext abilities are nice to
have of course, if there is a lot of cross-references and see-also's.
More directly to your query, I don't think there are any spare manpages or
info files anywhere. There is also documentation in /usr/doc but you will
not find diff there. Documentation to diff is in info format but I was
unable to get to it through the top menu of info. 'info diff' doesn't work
either, info --file=diff works. I think I am missing out on something very
basic here because this doesn't seem very natural to me (after 'man', I
guess). As for 'read' thats a bash inbuilt command and it is part of the
bash manpage or info page. Here info vindicates itself, navigating to the
right section is much easier through hyperlinks than linear text of manpage.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Mark Bram" <relaxedrob@optushome.com.au>
To: "Cygwin" <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 3:35 PM
Subject: Not all mans available


> Hi all!
>
> When I try "man read" or "man diff" I am told by Cygwin "No manual entry
for
> read" or "No manual entry for diff".
>
> Was there a setup option with Cygwin I didn't include in order to get all
> the manuals?
>
> Is there a way for to download them?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rob
>
> :)
> :-}
> ;->
>
>
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Re: Not all mans available

[Michael A Chase]

From: "Robert Mark Bram" <relaxedrob@optushome.com.au>
To: "Cygwin" <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 03:43
Subject: RE: Not all mans available


> >So I guess that the right thing to do would be for the
> >postinstall script for each package that includes info files
> >to run install-info.  Looks like many don't, including diff
> >which doesn't have any postinstall script.  So as a work
> >around you'll have to build the dir file yourself.
>
> I don't suppose you could elaborate on this a little more could you? I
would
> like to try this out..
>
> This doesn't fix up the man thing though does it?
>
> I have tried both "man diff" and "man read" on a Sun OS's Bash - can those
> files be transferred?

For GNU programs, info is the appropriate command.  The man pages provided
in SunOS are for the versions of the programs provided with SunOS not the
versions in the Cygwin distribution.

I found myself rebuilding /usr/info/dir often enough that it was worth
adding a function to my .bashrc:

function build_info {
   cwd=$PWD
   cd /usr/info
   for f in *.info; do echo $f; install-info $f dir; done
   /usr/sbin/makewhatis
   cd $cwd
}

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RE: Not all mans available

[David Starks-Browning]

On Tuesday 19 Mar 02, Robert Mark Bram writes:
> Hi Mark!
> 
> >So I guess that the right thing to do would be for the
> >postinstall script for each package that includes info files
> >to run install-info.  Looks like many don't, including diff
> >which doesn't have any postinstall script.  So as a work
> >around you'll have to build the dir file yourself.
> 
> I don't suppose you could elaborate on this a little more could you? I would
> like to try this out..

There are instructions in the FAQ for building the dir file.  See the
entry

	info error "dir: No such file or directory"

Regards,
David


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RE: Not all mans available

[Robert Mark Bram]

Hi Mark!

>So I guess that the right thing to do would be for the
>postinstall script for each package that includes info files
>to run install-info.  Looks like many don't, including diff
>which doesn't have any postinstall script.  So as a work
>around you'll have to build the dir file yourself.

I don't suppose you could elaborate on this a little more could you? I would
like to try this out..

This doesn't fix up the man thing though does it?

I have tried both "man diff" and "man read" on a Sun OS's Bash - can those
files be transferred?

Rob
:)


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RE: Not all mans available

[Mark Sheppard]

If your INFOPATH variable is correctly set to /usr/info then
I'd say that the problem is that your info directory page
doesn't include a full index to all the info files like it
should.

The install-info program is used to keep the "dir" index file
up to date by adding the appropriate entries from the .info
files, in this case:

START-INFO-DIR-ENTRY
* diff: (diff).                   GNU diff, diff3, sdiff, cmp, patch
END-INFO-DIR-ENTRY

So I guess that the right thing to do would be for the
postinstall script for each package that includes info files
to run install-info.  Looks like many don't, including diff
which doesn't have any postinstall script.  So as a work
around you'll have to build the dir file yourself.

Mark.


-----Original Message-----
From: Eugene Rosenzweig [mailto:eugenius@dingoblue.net.au]
Sent: 19 March 2002 06:31
To: Cygwin
Cc: Robert Mark Bram
Subject: Re: Not all mans available


I once asked along same lines and I was told that originally in GNU info was
going to be the replacement to man system... Why I am not sure but that must
have not worked out really well since half the stuff info digs up seems to
be manpages but without the eyecandy (highlighting and underline). Even when
at the bottom of the manpage it says, see info for complete documentation,
info still digs up same old manpage. The hypertext abilities are nice to
have of course, if there is a lot of cross-references and see-also's.
More directly to your query, I don't think there are any spare manpages or
info files anywhere. There is also documentation in /usr/doc but you will
not find diff there. Documentation to diff is in info format but I was
unable to get to it through the top menu of info. 'info diff' doesn't work
either, info --file=diff works. I think I am missing out on something very
basic here because this doesn't seem very natural to me (after 'man', I
guess). As for 'read' thats a bash inbuilt command and it is part of the
bash manpage or info page. Here info vindicates itself, navigating to the
right section is much easier through hyperlinks than linear text of manpage.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Mark Bram" <relaxedrob@optushome.com.au>
To: "Cygwin" <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 3:35 PM
Subject: Not all mans available


> Hi all!
>
> When I try "man read" or "man diff" I am told by Cygwin "No manual entry
for
> read" or "No manual entry for diff".
>
> Was there a setup option with Cygwin I didn't include in order to get all
> the manuals?
>
> Is there a way for to download them?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rob
>
> :)
> :-}
> ;->
>
>
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