BLODA nominee: Seagate GoFlex Home file server

BLODA nominee: Seagate GoFlex Home file server

[Matt Seitz]

FYI:  The Seagate GoFlex Home file server does not support setting FAT file flags (read-only, system, etc.).  As a result, Cygwin cannot create symbolic links on these servers.

Sincerely,
Matt Seitz

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Re: BLODA nominee: Seagate GoFlex Home file server

[Earnie Boyd]

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Matt Seitz wrote:
> FYI:  The Seagate GoFlex Home file server does not support setting FAT file flags (read-only, system, etc.).  As a result, Cygwin cannot create symbolic links on these servers.

Why are drive companies bent on formatting with FAT by default?
(Sarcastic remark does not need a response)

Is it possible to convert to NTFS?

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RE: BLODA nominee: Seagate GoFlex Home file server

[Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]]

Matt Seitz wrote on July 04, 2012 3:42 AM

> FYI:  The Seagate GoFlex Home file server does not support setting
> FAT file flags (read-only, system, etc.).  As a result, Cygwin
> cannot create symbolic links on these servers.

Just a quibble:  Those that are more knowledgeable may correct me,
but I'm not sure that not supporting feature that cygwin needs for
something is enough to qualify as a BLODA.  I thought that a BLODA
must actively interfere with cygwin.

http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#BLODA
http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.using.html#faq.using.bloda

- Barry
  Disclaimer:  Statements made herein are not made on behalf of NIAID.


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RE: BLODA nominee: Seagate GoFlex Home file server

[Matt Seitz]

> From: Earnie Boyd 
> Is it possible to convert to NTFS?

Not easily. The GoFlex Home is an appliance that doesn't seem to have a documented way for users to reformat the file system.  But even a FAT file system supports FAT file attributes, so reformatting to NTFS shouldn't be necessary.

I have found a back door that gives me ssh access to the GoFlex Home.  However, it appears the GoFlex is running Samba 3.0.x on Linux.  I haven't looked into how Samba handles running on NTFS, so I don't know if that would help.  Also, Seagate distributes source for the Linux NTFS-3g driver as part of their GNU Source Code distribution the server.  So the disk might actually already be formatted using NTFS.

I found the apparent smb.conf file the server uses, and it looks like it fails to enable Samba's support for FAT file attributes.  If I don't get an official solution from Seagate, I may try modifying the smb.conf file and see if that fixes the issue.

Sincerely,
Matt Seitz

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Re: BLODA nominee: Seagate GoFlex Home file server

[Andrey Repin]

Greetings, Matt Seitz!

>> From: Earnie Boyd 
>> Is it possible to convert to NTFS?

> Not easily. The GoFlex Home is an appliance that doesn't seem to have a
> documented way for users to reformat the file system.  But even a FAT file
> system supports FAT file attributes, so reformatting to NTFS shouldn't be
> necessary. 

> I have found a back door that gives me ssh access to the GoFlex Home.
> However, it appears the GoFlex is running Samba 3.0.x on Linux.  I haven't
> looked into how Samba handles running on NTFS, so I don't know if that would
> help.

I strictly don't recommend using NTFS under Linux, especially not for file
sharing.
There's a chance to encounter spectacular issues, that not easily explained.
Notable drop/fluctuation in disc performance is the least of them.

> Also, Seagate distributes source for the Linux NTFS-3g driver as part
> of their GNU Source Code distribution the server.
> So the disk might actually already be formatted using NTFS.

You don't need to guess.
Check mount output, or "fdisk -l" if your disks partitioned using MBR. (With
GPT it might be a bit tricky...)

> I found the apparent smb.conf file the server uses, and it looks like it
> fails to enable Samba's support for FAT file attributes.  If I don't get an
> official solution from Seagate, I may try modifying the smb.conf file and
> see if that fixes the issue. 

testparm -sv | grep dos
would be interesting to see, but please send it off-list.


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Sorry for my terrible english...


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RE: BLODA nominee: Seagate GoFlex Home file server

[Matt Seitz]

From: Andrey Repin
> Check mount output, or "fdisk -l" if your disks partitioned using MBR. (With GPT it might be a bit tricky...)

-bash-3.2$ ./fdisk -l
-bash-3.2$

mount output:

rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
ubi0:rootfs on / type ubifs (rw)
/proc on /proc type proc (rw)
/sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)
/proc/bus/usb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
none on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw)
nodev on /var/log type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /mnt/tmpfs type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /var/lib/php/session type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /tmp type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /var/cache type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /var/lib/axentra_sync type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /var/lib/oe-admin/minions type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /var/lib/oe-admin/actions type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /var/lib/oe-update-checker type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /etc/blkid type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /var/lib/dbus type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /var/lib/dhclient type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /var/spool type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /var/lib/avahi-autoipd type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /etc/printcap type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /etc/resolv.conf type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /var/cache/mt-daapd type tmpfs (rw)
ubi0:rootfs on /tmp/eaccelerator type ubifs (rw)
ubi0:rootfs on /tmp/templates_c type ubifs (rw)
nodev on /home/0external type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/sda on /mnt/eSata type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)
/dev/sda on /home/0common type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)
/dev/sda on /tmp/atalk type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)
/dev/sda on /tmp/albumcache type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)
/dev/sda on /tmp/0db type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)
/dev/sda on /var/cache/mt-daapd type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)
/dev/sda on /tmp/apache_tmp type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)
/dev/sda on /tmp/minidlna type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)
/dev/sda on /home/0db/id3_cache type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)
/dev/sda on /home/0backups type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)
nodev on /home/seitz/External Storage type tmpfs (rw)
nodev on /home/heather/External Storage type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/sda on /home/seitz/GoFlex Home Personal type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)
/dev/sda on /home/seitz/GoFlex Home Backup type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)
/dev/sda on /home/seitz/GoFlex Home Public type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)
/dev/sda on /home/heather/GoFlex Home Personal type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)
/dev/sda on /home/heather/GoFlex Home Backup type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)
/dev/sda on /home/heather/GoFlex Home Public type ufsd (rw,nls=utf8,uid=48,gid=100,fmask=0,dmask=0,force)


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RE: BLODA nominee: Seagate GoFlex Home file server

[Matt Seitz]

> From: Andrey Repin 
> 
> testparm -sv | grep dos
> would be interesting to see, but please send it off-list.

I think it'll be fine to share these results.

I couldn't find testparm:

-bash-3.2$ rpm -ql samba-common | grep testparm
/usr/bin/testparm
/usr/share/man/man1/testparm.1.gz
-bash-3.2$ /usr/bin/testparm
-bash: /usr/bin/testparm: No such file or directory
-bash-3.2$

Smb.conf came up empty:

-bash-3.2$ grep dos smb.conf
-bash-3.2$ ls -l smb.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2650 Feb 23 23:05 smb.conf
-bash-3.2$ pwd
/etc/samba
-bash-3.2$




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RE: BLODA nominee: Seagate GoFlex Home file server

[Matt Seitz]

> From: Andrey Repin [mailto:anrdaemon@freemail.ru]
> would be interesting to see, but please send it off-list.
>
> Andrey Repin (anrdaemon@freemail.ru) 06.07.2012, <05:29>

Andrey, I'm getting a bounce message when I try sending e'mail to anrdaemon@freemail.ru.



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