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From: "Jonathan Pryor" <jonpryor@vt.edu>
To: "cygwin users" <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Subject: Re: [ANN] Cygwin DEV survey
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 06:07:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0da501be6bc8$828c3310$e63d2509@jonpryor.raleigh.ibm.com> (raw)

Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd@yahoo.com> wrote:

>---Greg Miller <gmiller@classic-games.com> wrote:
>>
>> Michael Weiser wrote:
>> > Why? Someone who can't do a tar -xzvf will also be unable to use
>> > cygwin after install. It's the old thread which shows up here
>> > regularly and I'm one of those who want tar's or even better rpm's.
>> 
>> Except that the above tar command isn't equivalent to a full
>> InstallShield executable. Further, many cygwin users just want to run
>> one or two pieces of UNIX software, not use a full simulation of UNIX.
>
>You've just given a perfectly good reason why _NOT_ to use
>InstallShield.  With InstallShield, unless the packager has provided
>for it, you can't just pick and choose like you would be able to with
>tar.

Why don't we have the "best of both worlds"?

I like the idea of tar files.  I also like the idea of an 
InstallShield setup to specify which parts to install (via
a Custom install option).

Wouldn't it be possible to have tarballs, and have InstallShield
extract the tarballs as part of its installation?  Then both 
groups can be satisified, and it shouldn't be too much more
difficult to do...(at least, I wouldn't think it so, but I've
been wrong before...)

For the record, I also would like to have a CD with almost
everything on it.  It would certainly make re-installing
"the world" easier...  :-)

Would it be possible to place mingw32 on the CD as well?
I don't remember seeing this raised as an option, but I 
would find it useful to have it on the CD...

 - Jon


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From: "Jonathan Pryor" <jonpryor@vt.edu>
To: "cygwin users" <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Subject: Re: [ANN] Cygwin DEV survey
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:45:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0da501be6bc8$828c3310$e63d2509@jonpryor.raleigh.ibm.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <19990331194500.a72sYzS9YqUQ2o3HQFf0r2WFgl-sIyXeuGGCyCr7GYA@z> (raw)

Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd@yahoo.com> wrote:

>---Greg Miller <gmiller@classic-games.com> wrote:
>>
>> Michael Weiser wrote:
>> > Why? Someone who can't do a tar -xzvf will also be unable to use
>> > cygwin after install. It's the old thread which shows up here
>> > regularly and I'm one of those who want tar's or even better rpm's.
>> 
>> Except that the above tar command isn't equivalent to a full
>> InstallShield executable. Further, many cygwin users just want to run
>> one or two pieces of UNIX software, not use a full simulation of UNIX.
>
>You've just given a perfectly good reason why _NOT_ to use
>InstallShield.  With InstallShield, unless the packager has provided
>for it, you can't just pick and choose like you would be able to with
>tar.

Why don't we have the "best of both worlds"?

I like the idea of tar files.  I also like the idea of an 
InstallShield setup to specify which parts to install (via
a Custom install option).

Wouldn't it be possible to have tarballs, and have InstallShield
extract the tarballs as part of its installation?  Then both 
groups can be satisified, and it shouldn't be too much more
difficult to do...(at least, I wouldn't think it so, but I've
been wrong before...)

For the record, I also would like to have a CD with almost
everything on it.  It would certainly make re-installing
"the world" easier...  :-)

Would it be possible to place mingw32 on the CD as well?
I don't remember seeing this raised as an option, but I 
would find it useful to have it on the CD...

 - Jon


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             reply	other threads:[~1999-03-11  6:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-03-11  6:07 Jonathan Pryor [this message]
1999-03-11 16:42 ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45   ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-11 16:42 ` [FYI] Cygwin DEV distribution Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45   ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45 ` [ANN] Cygwin DEV survey Jonathan Pryor
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1999-03-11  5:30 Earnie Boyd
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Earnie Boyd
1999-03-10 18:46 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-08  6:58 Smith, Martin
1999-03-09 17:40 ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45   ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Smith, Martin
1999-03-08  5:50 Earnie Boyd
1999-03-09 17:40 ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]   ` < 36E5C95D.7810@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-10  7:18     ` Michael Weiser
     [not found]       ` < 36e94a87.1879752@mail.weiser.saale-net.de >
1999-03-10  7:44         ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]           ` < 199903101543.KAA07228@envy.delorie.com >
1999-03-10 18:33             ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45               ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45           ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-11  0:15       ` Greg Miller
1999-03-31 19:45         ` Greg Miller
1999-03-11 15:59       ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]         ` < 36E70E49.4A77@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-12  7:10           ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45             ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45         ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45       ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45   ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Earnie Boyd
1999-03-08  2:33 Smith, Martin
1999-03-09 17:40 ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45   ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Smith, Martin
1999-03-07 19:09 Earnie Boyd
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Earnie Boyd
1999-03-07 15:52 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-07 14:08 N8TM
     [not found] ` < 57b99220.36e2f890@aol.com >
1999-03-07 14:22   ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-07 15:55     ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]       ` < 36E311C7.672E@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-07 17:25         ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45           ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45       ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45 ` N8TM
1999-03-07 10:13 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-07  9:19 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
     [not found] ` < 007501be68c0$ee6d69b0$29acdfd0@InspirePharm.Com >
1999-03-07 10:07   ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-07 10:11   ` Tripp Lilley
1999-03-07 15:54     ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45       ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45     ` Tripp Lilley
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Suhaib M. Siddiqi
1999-03-07  9:11 Stipe Tolj
     [not found] ` < 36E2B26B.BEA9DC67@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-07 10:06   ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]     ` < 199903071805.NAA13212@envy.delorie.com >
1999-03-07 11:10       ` Michael Hirmke
     [not found]         ` < 7COu0ETppfB@mike.franken.de >
1999-03-07 12:53           ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-07 15:55             ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45               ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45             ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-07 15:55         ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]           ` < 36E30E97.7310@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-07 16:11             ` Tripp Lilley
1999-03-31 19:45               ` Tripp Lilley
1999-03-07 17:16             ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45               ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45           ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45         ` Michael Hirmke
1999-03-07 15:54     ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]       ` < 36E30CB6.1B5F@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-07 16:41         ` Chris Faylor
1999-03-31 19:45           ` Chris Faylor
1999-03-07 17:13         ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-08 22:58           ` Greg Miller
     [not found]             ` < 36E4C5C5.B27DD935@classic-games.com >
1999-03-09  8:47               ` Steve Morris
1999-03-09 11:48                 ` Greg Miller
1999-03-31 19:45                   ` Greg Miller
1999-03-31 19:45                 ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45             ` Greg Miller
1999-03-09 17:39           ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]             ` < 36E5C12D.5017@uni-duesseldorf.de >
1999-03-09 17:42               ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45                 ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45             ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45           ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-08  7:14         ` Michael Weiser
     [not found]           ` < 36e38cb6.1308201@mail.weiser.saale-net.de >
1999-03-08  7:20             ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45               ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-09 17:40           ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45             ` Stipe Tolj
1999-03-31 19:45           ` Michael Weiser
1999-03-31 19:45       ` Stipe Tolj
     [not found]     ` <199903081523.KAA03738@brocade.nexen.com>
1999-03-08  7:34       ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]         ` <87yal7dgkn.fsf@mattdav.vip.best.com>
1999-03-08 10:06           ` DJ Delorie
     [not found]             ` < 199903081805.NAA22437@envy.delorie.com >
1999-03-08 11:48               ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45                 ` Steve Morris
1999-03-31 19:45             ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45         ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45     ` DJ Delorie
1999-03-31 19:45 ` Stipe Tolj

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