* Bug with Windows 10 console [not found] <535856733.-1642430415.1587202868364.JavaMail.root@zimbra76-e14.priv.proxad.net> @ 2020-04-18 12:42 ` akiki 2020-04-18 14:05 ` Thomas Wolff 2020-04-22 19:50 ` Can't use strace on curses application akiki 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: akiki @ 2020-04-18 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Hi, To day, all programs are upgraded permanently. A good and a bad thing. Windows 10, cygwin ... One recent upgrade, I don't target exactly which one, has broken my environment. Current versions as reported by cygcheck : Windows 10 Professional Ver 10.0 Build 18363 cygwin 3.1.4-1 OK bash 4.4.12-3 OK I am using 2 kinds of console to interact with cygwin mintty : using pty as TTY bash under cmd : using cons as TTY These two were working correctly until recently, but now only mintty stay correct. -- in reality it's seems The principal difference is about Ctrl-C interaction. With the 2nd kind of TTY, a same program using curses, on Ctrl-c interrupt the program give me a prompt but the terminal stay in curses mode, ie without echo and bad new line I have to do "reset" (/bin/reset) to restore the terminal So the interrupt handling has changed. Who is responsible. I had a look about the new Window Console Legacy. With this new console, we saw a black screen with color bash prompt. So with bash, is it possible to work with one or other TTY mode ? Howto understand this problem and what can I do to correct it. mintty present some problems with my environment and because of that I use the second form of TTY. Sorry for my bad English. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Bug with Windows 10 console 2020-04-18 12:42 ` Bug with Windows 10 console akiki @ 2020-04-18 14:05 ` Thomas Wolff 2020-04-19 3:02 ` Kevin Schnitzius 2020-04-22 19:50 ` Can't use strace on curses application akiki 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Thomas Wolff @ 2020-04-18 14:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Am 18.04.2020 um 14:42 schrieb akiki@free.fr: > Hi, Bonjour > To day, all programs are upgraded permanently. A good and a bad thing. > Windows 10, cygwin ... > One recent upgrade, I don't target exactly which one, has broken my environment. > > > Current versions as reported by cygcheck : > Windows 10 Professional Ver 10.0 Build 18363 > cygwin 3.1.4-1 OK > bash 4.4.12-3 OK > > I am using 2 kinds of console to interact with cygwin > mintty : using pty as TTY > bash under cmd : using cons as TTY > > These two were working correctly until recently, but now only mintty stay correct. > -- in reality it's seems > The principal difference is about Ctrl-C interaction. > With the 2nd kind of TTY, a same program using curses, on Ctrl-c > interrupt the program > give me a prompt > but the terminal stay in curses mode, ie without echo and bad new line > I have to do "reset" (/bin/reset) to restore the terminal > > So the interrupt handling has changed. > Who is responsible. It might help if you tell us *which* program behaves like that. > > I had a look about the new Window Console Legacy. > With this new console, we saw a black screen with color bash prompt. > > So with bash, is it possible to work with one or other TTY mode ? > > Howto understand this problem and what can I do to correct it. > mintty present some problems with my environment and because of that I use the second form of TTY. Which problems? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Bug with Windows 10 console 2020-04-18 14:05 ` Thomas Wolff @ 2020-04-19 3:02 ` Kevin Schnitzius 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Kevin Schnitzius @ 2020-04-19 3:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 10:06:15 AM EDT, Thomas Wolff <towo@towo.net> wrote: >> So the interrupt handling has changed. >> Who is responsible. > It might help if you tell us *which* program behaves like that. https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/2020-February/243934.html Kevin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Can't use strace on curses application 2020-04-18 12:42 ` Bug with Windows 10 console akiki 2020-04-18 14:05 ` Thomas Wolff @ 2020-04-22 19:50 ` akiki 2020-04-22 19:59 ` Marco Atzeri 2020-05-11 16:25 ` Very dangerous hacking ? Surprising relationship between cygwin and Microsoft akiki 1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: akiki @ 2020-04-22 19:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Hi, My initial current versions : Windows 10 Professional Ver 10.0 Build 18363 cygwin 3.1.4-1 OK I have encountered too many problems with console tty use, that with a curses application. With cygwin 3.1.4, bash under cmd, and mintty are not really usable. I have tried several options to correct use of them and finally came back to cygwin 3.0.7. So, during these tries, at a moment to observe the problem, I will try to do a strace on my curses app. It was impossible to do it. It was answered a msgbox with cygncurses-8.dll missing strace output: ... --- Process 10848 loaded C:\Windows\SysWOW64\apphelp.dll at 731d0000 --- Process 10848 exited with status 0xc0000135 After my return to cygwin 3.0.7, the problem is still present. I think, the window application strace is certainly an old one. The strace version concerned is that bundled with cygwin 3.0.7. When cygwin will be updated, it woud be nice to use strace to check the new kind of operation. Sorry for my bad English. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Can't use strace on curses application 2020-04-22 19:50 ` Can't use strace on curses application akiki @ 2020-04-22 19:59 ` Marco Atzeri 2020-05-11 16:25 ` Very dangerous hacking ? Surprising relationship between cygwin and Microsoft akiki 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Marco Atzeri @ 2020-04-22 19:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Am 22.04.2020 um 21:50 schrieb akiki@free.fr: > Hi, > My initial current versions : > Windows 10 Professional Ver 10.0 Build 18363 > cygwin 3.1.4-1 OK > > I have encountered too many problems with console tty use, > that with a curses application. > With cygwin 3.1.4, bash under cmd, and mintty are not really usable. > I have tried several options to correct use of them and finally came back to cygwin 3.0.7. > > So, > during these tries, at a moment to observe the problem, I will try to do a strace on my curses app. > It was impossible to do it. > > It was answered a msgbox with cygncurses-8.dll missing It seems your application is using an old library not available anymore $ cygcheck -p cygncurses-8.dll Found 0 matches for cygncurses-8.dll $ cygcheck -p cygncurses Found 8 matches for cygncurses libncurses++w10-6.0-12.20171125 - libncurses++w10: Terminal display library libncurses++w10-6.1-1.20190727 - libncurses++w10: Terminal display library libncursesw10-6.0-11.20170617 - libncursesw10: Terminal display library libncursesw10-6.0-12.20171125 - libncursesw10: Terminal display library libncursesw10-6.1-1.20190727 - libncursesw10: Terminal display library .. so current version is number 10. From where this program is coming from ? Regards Marco ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Very dangerous hacking ? Surprising relationship between cygwin and Microsoft 2020-04-22 19:50 ` Can't use strace on curses application akiki 2020-04-22 19:59 ` Marco Atzeri @ 2020-05-11 16:25 ` akiki 2020-05-11 17:07 ` Doug Henderson 2020-05-11 18:35 ` David Macek 1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: akiki @ 2020-05-11 16:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin Hi, On doing an habitual "cygcheck -rs", I was interrogated and ALARMED to see some register keys speaking cygwin : HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AppContainer\Storage\ microsoft.microsoftedge_8wekyb3d8bbwe\Children\001\Internet Explorer\DOMStorage\cygwin.com (default) = 0x00000000 NumberOfSubdomains = 0x00000001 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AppContainer\Storage\ microsoft.microsoftedge_8wekyb3d8bbwe\Children\001\Internet Explorer\EdpDomStorage\cygwin.com (default) = 0x00000000 NumberOfSubdomains = 0x00000000 Examining the registry under cygwin: cd /proc/registry/HKEY_CURRENT_USER/... ; Positioned on Internet Explorer\, I found 4 sub-keys : DOMStorage DomStorageState EdpDomStorage Main These keys are very populated : "ls -lR|wc -l" give me 1285 lines, and I can read many traces of my use of internet about bank vpn ... For DOMStorage an EdpDomStorage a list of URL is indicated with dates between July 2019 and Apr 2020 The values attached to cygwin.com URL as for others are 4 bytes values - no clear meaning. To conclude, Microsoft spy and register all sites you access, cygwin.com in particular. I hope only with Edge, but I am not sure of that. I have never see in cygcheck, such reference to cygwin with chrome, firefox , opera ... May be something is done to mask them. Sorry for my bad English. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Very dangerous hacking ? Surprising relationship between cygwin and Microsoft 2020-05-11 16:25 ` Very dangerous hacking ? Surprising relationship between cygwin and Microsoft akiki @ 2020-05-11 17:07 ` Doug Henderson 2020-05-11 18:35 ` David Macek 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Doug Henderson @ 2020-05-11 17:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 10:39, akiki <> wrote: > > Hi, > > On doing an habitual "cygcheck -rs", I was interrogated and ALARMED to see some register keys speaking cygwin : > <snip> > I have never see in cygcheck, such reference to cygwin with chrome, firefox , opera ... > May be something is done to mask them. > I use Firefox Nightly and very rarely Chrome, and I have no internet related registry keys that refer to cygwin. These browsers may save similar information, but it is not in the registry. I suspect that the keys you see are related to using Internet Explorer and/or Edge. This re-enforces my choice to use Firefox. HTH Doug -- Doug Henderson, Calgary, Alberta, Canada - from gmail.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Very dangerous hacking ? Surprising relationship between cygwin and Microsoft 2020-05-11 16:25 ` Very dangerous hacking ? Surprising relationship between cygwin and Microsoft akiki 2020-05-11 17:07 ` Doug Henderson @ 2020-05-11 18:35 ` David Macek 2020-05-11 19:53 ` Brian Inglis 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: David Macek @ 2020-05-11 18:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: akiki; +Cc: cygwin > To conclude, Microsoft spy and register all sites you access, cygwin.com in particular. > I hope only with Edge, but I am not sure of that. Unless I missed something in your report, I cannot agree with your conclusion. *Windows* storing something in the registry does not imply *Microsoft* receives or processes that information. -- David Macek ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Very dangerous hacking ? Surprising relationship between cygwin and Microsoft 2020-05-11 18:35 ` David Macek @ 2020-05-11 19:53 ` Brian Inglis 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Brian Inglis @ 2020-05-11 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On 2020-05-11 12:35, David Macek via Cygwin wrote: >> To conclude, Microsoft spy and register all sites you access, cygwin.com >> in particular. I hope only with Edge, but I am not sure of that. > > Unless I missed something in your report, I cannot agree with your > conclusion. *Windows* storing something in the registry does not imply > *Microsoft* receives or processes that information. It does unless you uncheck all the boxes that say they can: log and ship a record of everything you access and do on the system and in each product! They may also still claim rights to use anything you create using any of their products. I use ungoogled Chromium stable builds as Google, Mozilla, and MS, are as bad as FB, LIn, etc. which I avoid like the plague they are. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in IEC units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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