* Re: Microsoft Acquires Softway Systems
@ 1999-09-23 5:51 N8TM
1999-09-30 23:42 ` N8TM
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From: N8TM @ 1999-09-23 5:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ealiberti, cygwin
In a message dated 9/23/99 7:21:01 AM EST, ealiberti@hotmail.com writes:
> MS says Interix will provide POSIX compliance to w2k, but I think it will
> not be bundled with the standard w2k distribution.
How is this likely to reduce the price?
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* Re: Microsoft Acquires Softway Systems
1999-09-23 5:51 Microsoft Acquires Softway Systems N8TM
@ 1999-09-30 23:42 ` N8TM
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From: N8TM @ 1999-09-30 23:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ealiberti, cygwin
In a message dated 9/23/99 7:21:01 AM EST, ealiberti@hotmail.com writes:
> MS says Interix will provide POSIX compliance to w2k, but I think it will
> not be bundled with the standard w2k distribution.
How is this likely to reduce the price?
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* Re: Microsoft Acquires Softway Systems
1999-09-23 11:06 ` Mumit Khan
@ 1999-09-30 23:42 ` Mumit Khan
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From: Mumit Khan @ 1999-09-30 23:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emanuele Aliberti; +Cc: cygwin
"Emanuele Aliberti" <ealiberti@hotmail.com> writes:
> The next may be a bit off topic, but I think it is interesting, since it is
> related to porting Unix applications to WNT, or POSIX compliance, or the
> Cygnus CygWin project.
>
> On September 17th, Microsoft Acquired Softway Systems, the makers of
> Interix, which is a native POSIX subsystem for WNT. Actually, Softway
> Systems asked a souce licence to MS for the original POSIX subsystem (POSIX
> 1003.1 only) and extended it to be POSIX 1003.xx compliant. Currently,
> Interix can even run Linux binaries, if I read well their pages.
>
> MS says Interix will provide POSIX compliance to w2k, but I think it will
> not be bundled with the standard w2k distribution.
>
> What do you think about that and how (if) can that change the CygWin project
> and the others commercial POSIX layers for WNT? (for instance, CygWin can
> run under w9x too, which Interix can't).
Interix (formerly Softway, and now Microsoft) provides a POSIX *subsystem*,
and that's very different from what Cygwin/UWIN provides, which are POSIX
emulation on top of win32 API. When you're dealing with POSIX subystem, you
cannot really use Win32 subystem, and that means that you can't write what
most people call "windows" programs.
Cygwin/UWIN provide something that is quite different -- use POSIX
functionality *on top of* Windows API.
That said, Interix provides a top-notch POSIX subsystem, with lots of
goodies which include true shared libraries (don't know if it's in the
retail version yet).
Regards,
Mumit
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* RE: Microsoft Acquires Softway Systems
1999-09-23 15:31 Lamb, Ronald F.
@ 1999-09-30 23:42 ` Lamb, Ronald F.
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From: Lamb, Ronald F. @ 1999-09-30 23:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
>> MS says Interix will provide POSIX compliance to w2k, but I think it will
>> not be bundled with the standard w2k distribution.
>How is this likely to reduce the price?
It won't, you will still have to purchase the product.
However the added cost that Interix added to the product to recoup
the cost of paying for the source code license will no longer need
to be added, that is not to say that the price will actually go
down.
Ron
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* Microsoft Acquires Softway Systems
1999-09-23 5:19 Emanuele Aliberti
1999-09-23 11:06 ` Mumit Khan
@ 1999-09-30 23:42 ` Emanuele Aliberti
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Emanuele Aliberti @ 1999-09-30 23:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
The next may be a bit off topic, but I think it is interesting, since it is
related to porting Unix applications to WNT, or POSIX compliance, or the
Cygnus CygWin project.
On September 17th, Microsoft Acquired Softway Systems, the makers of
Interix, which is a native POSIX subsystem for WNT. Actually, Softway
Systems asked a souce licence to MS for the original POSIX subsystem (POSIX
1003.1 only) and extended it to be POSIX 1003.xx compliant. Currently,
Interix can even run Linux binaries, if I read well their pages.
MS says Interix will provide POSIX compliance to w2k, but I think it will
not be bundled with the standard w2k distribution.
What do you think about that and how (if) can that change the CygWin project
and the others commercial POSIX layers for WNT? (for instance, CygWin can
run under w9x too, which Interix can't).
Emanuele
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* RE: Microsoft Acquires Softway Systems
@ 1999-09-23 15:31 Lamb, Ronald F.
1999-09-30 23:42 ` Lamb, Ronald F.
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Lamb, Ronald F. @ 1999-09-23 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
>> MS says Interix will provide POSIX compliance to w2k, but I think it will
>> not be bundled with the standard w2k distribution.
>How is this likely to reduce the price?
It won't, you will still have to purchase the product.
However the added cost that Interix added to the product to recoup
the cost of paying for the source code license will no longer need
to be added, that is not to say that the price will actually go
down.
Ron
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* Re: Microsoft Acquires Softway Systems
1999-09-23 5:19 Emanuele Aliberti
@ 1999-09-23 11:06 ` Mumit Khan
1999-09-30 23:42 ` Mumit Khan
1999-09-30 23:42 ` Emanuele Aliberti
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Mumit Khan @ 1999-09-23 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emanuele Aliberti; +Cc: cygwin
"Emanuele Aliberti" <ealiberti@hotmail.com> writes:
> The next may be a bit off topic, but I think it is interesting, since it is
> related to porting Unix applications to WNT, or POSIX compliance, or the
> Cygnus CygWin project.
>
> On September 17th, Microsoft Acquired Softway Systems, the makers of
> Interix, which is a native POSIX subsystem for WNT. Actually, Softway
> Systems asked a souce licence to MS for the original POSIX subsystem (POSIX
> 1003.1 only) and extended it to be POSIX 1003.xx compliant. Currently,
> Interix can even run Linux binaries, if I read well their pages.
>
> MS says Interix will provide POSIX compliance to w2k, but I think it will
> not be bundled with the standard w2k distribution.
>
> What do you think about that and how (if) can that change the CygWin project
> and the others commercial POSIX layers for WNT? (for instance, CygWin can
> run under w9x too, which Interix can't).
Interix (formerly Softway, and now Microsoft) provides a POSIX *subsystem*,
and that's very different from what Cygwin/UWIN provides, which are POSIX
emulation on top of win32 API. When you're dealing with POSIX subystem, you
cannot really use Win32 subystem, and that means that you can't write what
most people call "windows" programs.
Cygwin/UWIN provide something that is quite different -- use POSIX
functionality *on top of* Windows API.
That said, Interix provides a top-notch POSIX subsystem, with lots of
goodies which include true shared libraries (don't know if it's in the
retail version yet).
Regards,
Mumit
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* Microsoft Acquires Softway Systems
@ 1999-09-23 5:19 Emanuele Aliberti
1999-09-23 11:06 ` Mumit Khan
1999-09-30 23:42 ` Emanuele Aliberti
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Emanuele Aliberti @ 1999-09-23 5:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
The next may be a bit off topic, but I think it is interesting, since it is
related to porting Unix applications to WNT, or POSIX compliance, or the
Cygnus CygWin project.
On September 17th, Microsoft Acquired Softway Systems, the makers of
Interix, which is a native POSIX subsystem for WNT. Actually, Softway
Systems asked a souce licence to MS for the original POSIX subsystem (POSIX
1003.1 only) and extended it to be POSIX 1003.xx compliant. Currently,
Interix can even run Linux binaries, if I read well their pages.
MS says Interix will provide POSIX compliance to w2k, but I think it will
not be bundled with the standard w2k distribution.
What do you think about that and how (if) can that change the CygWin project
and the others commercial POSIX layers for WNT? (for instance, CygWin can
run under w9x too, which Interix can't).
Emanuele
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