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* Cygwin 3.1.7 - xterm v360.1 - columns pasted from Excel no longer separated by tab
@ 2020-12-17 23:03 Bill Shaffer
  2020-12-18  6:22 ` Brian Inglis
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bill Shaffer @ 2020-12-17 23:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

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Hello:

I am using Cygwin 3.1.7 and xterm 360.1 on Windows 10.  I run the X 
server and work in xterm windows.  When I copy a selection from an Excel 
spreadsheet and paste it into a vi session in an xterm window, the 
spreadsheet columns are separated by spaces.  If I paste into a vi 
session in a cygwin 3.1.7 console, I get tabs as separators.  If I run 
xterm on another host and send the display to my X Server, I get tabs.

In my previous version of Cygwin - which was probably about 2-3 years 
old - when I did this the columns were separated by tabs.  I still see 
tab separators in Cygwin 1.7.31 (Windows 8.1).  I can type tabs just 
fine in the 3.1.7 xterm.  It seems to be something in the local xterm 
that is converting the pasted tabs to spaces.  I don't think it's the 
copy portion of the operation, or I wouldn't get tabs in the console.

Did something change at some point that would explain this behavior?  Is 
there a way to get back to having the columns separated by tabs?

I understand that usually copying and pasting implies visible characters 
and that tabs are usually only visible as spaces, and this is the result 
I would expect when copying visible text separated by tabs.  However, 
when pasting from Excel, the columns have always come across separated 
by tabs - and still do, except for in xterm.

My TERM is xterm - I've tried vt100 and vt220 as well.  My TERM is also 
xterm in the working examples above.

Output from cygcheck -s -v -r is attached, as is the XWin.0.log file.  I 
redacted some identifying info.

Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Bill

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Welcome to the XWin X Server

Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project

Release: 1.20.9.0

OS: CYGWIN_NT-10.0-18363 L270433 3.1.7-340.x86_64 2020-08-22 17:48 UTC x86_64

OS: Windows 10  [Windows NT 10.0 build 18363] (Win64)

Package: version 1.20.9-1 built 2020-08-29

 

XWin was started with the following command line:

 

/usr/bin/XWin :0 -multiwindow -auth

 /home/r000000/.serverauth.1194

 

ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens

winInitializeScreenDefaults - primary monitor w 1920 h 1080

winInitializeScreenDefaults - native DPI x 96 y 96

[   141.625] (II) xorg.conf is not supported

[   141.625] (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information

[   141.625] LoadPreferences: /home/r000000/.XWinrc not found

[   141.625] LoadPreferences: Loading /etc/X11/system.XWinrc

[   141.625] LoadPreferences: Done parsing the configuration file...

[   141.640] winDetectSupportedEngines - RemoteSession: no

[   141.718] winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed, allowing ShadowDDNL

[   141.718] winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 00000005

[   141.750] winSetEngine - Multi Window or Rootless => ShadowGDI

[   141.750] winScreenInit - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel

[   141.765] winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 3840 height: 1080 depth: 32

[   141.765] winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff

[   141.765] winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32

[   141.781] MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support

[   141.781] XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel

[   141.781] glWinSelectGLimplementation: Loaded 'cygnativeGLthunk.dll'

[   141.828] (II) AIGLX: Testing pixelFormatIndex 1

[   141.984] GL_VERSION:     4.6.0 - Build 26.20.100.8141

[   141.984] GL_VENDOR:      Intel

[   141.984] GL_RENDERER:    Intel(R) UHD Graphics

[   141.984] (II) GLX: enabled GLX_SGI_make_current_read

[   141.984] (II) GLX: enabled GLX_SGI_swap_control

[   141.984] (II) GLX: enabled GLX_MESA_swap_control

[   141.984] (II) GLX: enabled GLX_SGIX_pbuffer

[   141.984] (II) GLX: enabled GLX_ARB_multisample

[   141.984] (II) GLX: enabled GLX_SGIS_multisample

[   141.984] (II) GLX: enabled GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float

[   141.984] (II) GLX: enabled GLX_EXT_fbconfig_packed_float

[   141.984] (II) GLX: enabled GLX_ARB_create_context

[   141.984] (II) GLX: enabled GLX_ARB_create_context_profile

[   141.984] (II) GLX: enabled GLX_ARB_create_context_robustness

[   141.984] (II) GLX: enabled GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile

[   141.984] (II) GLX: enabled GLX_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB

[   141.984] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer

[   141.984] (II) 108 pixel formats reported by wglGetPixelFormatAttribivARB

[   141.984] (II) 72 fbConfigs

[   141.984] (II) ignored pixel formats: 0 not OpenGL, 0 unknown pixel type, 36 unaccelerated

[   141.984] (II) GLX: Initialized Win32 native WGL GL provider for screen 0

[   145.359] winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 1920 540

[   145.359] (--) 8 mouse buttons found

[   145.359] (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31

[   145.359] (--) Windows keyboard layout: "00000409" (00000409) "US", type 4

[   145.359] (--) Found matching XKB configuration "English (USA)"

[   145.359] (--) Model = "pc105" Layout = "us" Variant = "none" Options = "none"

[   145.359] Rules = "base" Model = "pc105" Layout = "us" Variant = "none" Options = "none"

[   145.359] [   145.359] winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=:0.0

winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=:0.0

[   156.812] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - xcb_connect() returned and successfully opened the display.

[   156.812] [   156.812] winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned.

winClipboardThreadProc - DISPLAY=:0.0

[   156.812] winInitMultiWindowWM - xcb_connect () returned and successfully opened the display.

[   156.812] winClipboardProc - xcb_connect () returned and successfully opened the display.

[   156.828] Using Composite redirection

[587297.140] SetupSysMenu: GetSystemMenu() failed for HWND 0xea1016

[587297.765] SetupSysMenu: GetSystemMenu() failed for HWND 0xc90fba

[587302.437] SetupSysMenu: GetSystemMenu() failed for HWND 0xeb1016

[587303.078] SetupSysMenu: GetSystemMenu() failed for HWND 0x9d103a

[587304.312] SetupSysMenu: GetSystemMenu() failed for HWND 0x9e103a

[587304.671] SetupSysMenu: GetSystemMenu() failed for HWND 0x9f103a

[587305.328] SetupSysMenu: GetSystemMenu() failed for HWND 0xa0103a

[587308.187] SetupSysMenu: GetSystemMenu() failed for HWND 0xa1103a

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Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Thu Dec 17 21:43:54 2020

Windows 10 Enterprise Ver 10.0 Build 18363 

Path:	C:\Users\r999999\Documents\cygwin\r999999\scripts
	C:\cygwin64\bin
	C:\cygwin64\usr\local\bin
	C:\WINDOWS\system32

Output from C:\cygwin64\bin\id.exe
[trunkated]

SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\system32
WinDir: C:\WINDOWS

USER = 'r999999'
PWD = '/home/r999999'
HOME = '/home/r999999'

USERDOMAIN = 'XXXXX'
OS = 'Windows_NT'
COMMONPROGRAMFILES = 'C:\Program Files\Common Files'
PROCESSOR_LEVEL = '6'
PSModulePath = 'C:\Program Files\WindowsPowerShell\Modules;C:\WINDOWS\system32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\Modules;C:\Program Files\Thycotic\Powershell\'
CommonProgramW6432 = 'C:\Program Files\Common Files'
CommonProgramFiles(x86) = 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files'
LANG = 'en_US.UTF-8'
TZ = 'America/Denver'
DISPLAY = ':0'
OEM_PRODUCT_NAME = 'Impact 360'
HOSTNAME = 'LLLLLLL'
PUBLIC = 'C:\Users\Public'
OLDPWD = '/home'
AWS_CONFIG_FILE = 'c:/Users/r999999/.aws/config'
EDITOR = 'vi'
UATDATA = 'C:\WINDOWS\CCM\UATData\D9F8C395-CAB8-491d-B8AC-179A1FE1BE77'
USERNAME = 'r999999'
!S: = 'S:\'
LOGONSERVER = '\\VVVVVVVVV'
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = 'AMD64'
OEM_PRODUCT_SHORT_NAME = 'I360'
LOCALAPPDATA = 'C:\Users\r999999\AppData\Local'
COMPUTERNAME = 'LLLLLLL'
LIBJABRA_TRACE_LEVEL = 'debug'
FPS_BROWSER_APP_PROFILE_STRING = 'Internet Explorer'
XTERM_SHELL = '/usr/bin/bash'
!:: = '::\'
SYSTEMDRIVE = 'C:'
USERPROFILE = 'C:\Users\r999999'
PATHEXT = '.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.MSC'
SYSTEMROOT = 'C:\WINDOWS'
HOMESHARE = '\\vvvvvvvvv\Users$\r999999\Home'
USERDOMAIN_ROAMINGPROFILE = 'RBSWA'
OneDriveCommercial = 'C:\Users\r999999\OneDrive - XXXX'
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = 'Intel64 Family 6 Model 142 Stepping 12, GenuineIntel'
TMP = '/tmp'
OneDrive = 'C:\Users\r999999\OneDrive - XXXX'
PROCESSOR_REVISION = '8e0c'
FPS_BROWSER_USER_PROFILE_STRING = 'Default'
PROFILEREAD = 'true'
XTERM_VERSION = 'XTerm(360)'
USERDNSDOMAIN = 'RRRRRRRRRRR'
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = '8'
ProgramW6432 = 'C:\Program Files'
COMSPEC = 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe'
APPDATA = 'C:\Users\r999999\AppData\Roaming'
TERM = 'xterm'
SHELL = '/bin/bash'
AUTOSSH_LOGLEVEL = '3'
OEM_BRAND_NAME = 'Verint'
WINDIR = 'C:\WINDOWS'
AWS_SHARED_CREDENTIALS_FILE = 'c:/Users/r999999/.aws/credentials'
ProgramData = 'C:\ProgramData'
SHLVL = '5'
!Z: = 'Z:\'
PRINTER = 'PPPPPPPPPPPPPP'
PROGRAMFILES = 'C:\Program Files'
WINDOWID = '16777245'
ALLUSERSPROFILE = 'C:\ProgramData'
OEM_BRAND_VERSION = '11.1'
TEMP = '/tmp'
AUTOSSH_LOGFILE = '/tmp/autossh.log'
DriverData = 'C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\DriverData'
LOGNAME = 'r999999'
SESSIONNAME = 'Console'
XAUTHORITY = '/home/r999999/.Xauthority'
ProgramFiles(x86) = 'C:\Program Files (x86)'
PS1 = '\u@\h:\w$ '
HOMEDRIVE = 'F:'
INFOPATH = '/usr/local/info:/usr/share/info:/usr/info'
HOMEPATH = '\'
HISTSIZE = '5000'
ORIGINAL_PATH = '/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Common Files/Oracle/Java/javapath:/cygdrive/c/OBASE/11gR2x32/bin:/cygdrive/c/OBASE/11gR2x64/bin:/cygdrive/c/OBASE12/12cR1x64/bin:/cygdrive/c/OBASE12/12cR1x32/bin:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/WindowsPowerShell/v1.0:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/OpenSSH:/cygdrive/c/windows/system32/11g:/cygdrive/c/windows/system32/12c:/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Verint/Playback:/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Git/cmd:/cygdrive/c/Users/r999999/AppData/Local/Microsoft/WindowsApps'
HISTFILESIZE = '5000'
!T: = 'T:\'
XTERM_LOCALE = 'en_US.UTF-8'
EXECIGNORE = '*.dll'
_ = '/usr/bin/cygcheck'

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin\Installations
  (default) = '\??\C:\cygwin64'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin\Installations
  (default) = '\??\C:\cygwin64'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin\setup
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin64'

obcaseinsensitive set to 1

Cygwin installations found in the registry:
  System: Key: e022582115c10879 Path: C:\cygwin64
  User:   Key: e022582115c10879 Path: C:\cygwin64

c:  hd  NTFS    487360Mb  30% CP CS UN PA FC    QU  OSDisk
s:  net NTFS    652799Mb  61% CP CS UN PA           storage
t:  net NTFS   16755016Mb  24% CP CS UN PA FC    QU  Data1

C:\cygwin64      /          system  binary,auto
C:\cygwin64\bin  /usr/bin   system  binary,auto
C:\cygwin64\lib  /usr/lib   system  binary,auto
cygdrive prefix  /cygdrive  user    binary,posix=0,auto

Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\awk
 -> C:\cygwin64\bin\gawk.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\cat.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\certutil.exe
Not Found: clinfo
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\comp.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\convert.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\cp.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\cpp.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\crontab.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\curl.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\curl.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\curl.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\curl.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\expand.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\expand.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\expand.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\expand.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\find.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\find.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\find.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\find.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\ftp.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ftp.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\ftp.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\ftp.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\gcc.exe
Not Found: gdb
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\grep.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\hostname.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hostname.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\hostname.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\hostname.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\kill.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\klist.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\ld.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\ls.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\make.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\mv.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\nslookup.exe
Not Found: patch
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\perl.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\replace.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\rm.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\sed.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\sh.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\shutdown.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\shutdown.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\shutdown.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\shutdown.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\sort.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\sort.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\sort.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\sort.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\ssh.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\tar.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\tar.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\tar.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\tar.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\test.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\timeout.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\timeout.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\timeout.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\timeout.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\vi.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\vim.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\whoami.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\whoami.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\whoami.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\whoami.exe

   39k 2016/09/19 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygargp-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygargp-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2016-09-19 02:13
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                  "cygatk-1.0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-02-11 23:28
  165k 2018/02/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygatk-bridge-2.0-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygatk-bridge-2.0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-02-11 23:40
   29k 2020/09/12 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygatomic-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygatomic-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-09-12 14:32
  152k 2018/02/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygatspi-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygatspi-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-02-11 23:33
   19k 2018/12/20 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygattr-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygattr-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-12-20 09:48
  254k 2020/03/31 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygblkid-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygblkid-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-03-28 06:22
  132k 2020/10/10 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygbrotlicommon-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygbrotlicommon-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-10-10 15:20
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                  "cygbrotlidec-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-10-10 15:21
   66k 2019/07/21 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-07-22 00:05
 1087k 2019/09/16 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcairo-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcairo-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-09-16 02:42
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                  "cygcairo-gobject-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-09-16 02:43
  120k 2019/09/16 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcairo-script-interpreter-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcairo-script-interpreter-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-09-16 02:43
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                  "cygcom_err-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-01-02 02:39
  203k 2017/04/25 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcroco-0.6-3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcroco-0.6-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-04-25 17:03
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                  "cygcrypt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-09-03 08:18
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                  "cygcrypto-1.1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-04-08 12:11
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                  "cygct-4.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-05-03 08:46
  624k 2020/10/18 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcurl-4.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcurl-4.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-10-17 17:14
   24k 2014/11/12 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygdatrie-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygdatrie-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2014-11-12 07:24
 1552k 2017/09/28 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygdb-5.3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygdb-5.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-09-28 20:05
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                  "cygdbi-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-08-09 04:25
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                  "cygdbus-1-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-08-10 06:10
  119k 2017/09/28 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygdb_cxx-5.3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygdb_cxx-5.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-09-28 20:06
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                  "cygdb_sql-5.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-09-28 20:06
  154k 2013/10/20 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygedit-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygedit-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-10-20 21:56
  128k 2019/09/05 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygEGL-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygEGL-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-09-05 16:21
  679k 2017/09/04 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygepoxy-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygepoxy-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-09-04 22:23
  181k 2018/09/27 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygexpat-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygexpat-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-09-27 18:30
   73k 2016/08/26 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygexslt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygexslt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2016-08-26 22:10
   30k 2014/10/14 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfam-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfam-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2014-10-14 21:33
  353k 2020/03/31 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfdisk-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfdisk-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-03-28 06:23
   27k 2015/11/17 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygffi-6.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygffi-6.dll" v0.0 ts=2015-11-17 22:14
  136k 2020/10/20 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfido2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.5 sys=5.2
                  "cygfido2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-10-20 19:25
  251k 2020/09/13 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfontconfig-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfontconfig-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-09-13 16:50
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base-files                4.3-2                           OK
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bash-completion           2.7-1                           OK
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ca-certificates           2.40-1                          OK
coreutils                 8.26-2                          OK
cron                      4.1-65                          OK
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csih                      0.9.11-1                        OK
curl                      7.73.0-1                        OK
cygrunsrv                 1.62-1                          OK
cygutils                  1.4.16-2                        OK
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cygwin-devel              3.1.7-1                         OK
cygwin-doc                3.1.7-1                         OK
cygwin-x-doc              20180629-1                      OK
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dbus                      1.10.22-1                       OK
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dri-drivers               19.1.6-1                        OK
ed                        1.16-1                          OK
editrights                1.03-1                          OK
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file                      5.39-1                          OK
findutils                 4.6.0-1                         OK
gamin                     0.1.10-15                       OK
gawk                      5.1.0-1                         OK
gcc-core                  10.2.0-1                        OK
gdk-pixbuf2.0-svg         2.40.20-1                       OK
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getent                    2.18.90-4                       OK
git                       2.29.2-1                        OK
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* Re: Cygwin 3.1.7 - xterm v360.1 - columns pasted from Excel no longer separated by tab
  2020-12-17 23:03 Cygwin 3.1.7 - xterm v360.1 - columns pasted from Excel no longer separated by tab Bill Shaffer
@ 2020-12-18  6:22 ` Brian Inglis
  2020-12-18 18:22   ` Bill shaffer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Brian Inglis @ 2020-12-18  6:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 2020-12-17 16:03, Bill Shaffer via Cygwin wrote:
> Hello:
> 
> I am using Cygwin 3.1.7 and xterm 360.1 on Windows 10.  I run the X server and 
> work in xterm windows.  When I copy a selection from an Excel spreadsheet and 
> paste it into a vi session in an xterm window, the spreadsheet columns are 
> separated by spaces.  If I paste into a vi session in a cygwin 3.1.7 console, I 
> get tabs as separators.  If I run xterm on another host and send the display to 
> my X Server, I get tabs.
> 
> In my previous version of Cygwin - which was probably about 2-3 years old - when 
> I did this the columns were separated by tabs.  I still see tab separators in 
> Cygwin 1.7.31 (Windows 8.1).  I can type tabs just fine in the 3.1.7 xterm.  It 
> seems to be something in the local xterm that is converting the pasted tabs to 
> spaces.  I don't think it's the copy portion of the operation, or I wouldn't get 
> tabs in the console.
> 
> Did something change at some point that would explain this behavior?  Is there a 
> way to get back to having the columns separated by tabs?
> 
> I understand that usually copying and pasting implies visible characters and 
> that tabs are usually only visible as spaces, and this is the result I would 
> expect when copying visible text separated by tabs.  However, when pasting from 
> Excel, the columns have always come across separated by tabs - and still do, 
> except for in xterm.
> 
> My TERM is xterm - I've tried vt100 and vt220 as well.  My TERM is also xterm in 
> the working examples above.

The consensus on X is that the characters copied are determined by the source, 
and Windows apps often offer their clipboard info in multiple formats, if you 
check using an app that allows you to choose the format pasted e.g LibreOffice.

Having said that, editors also have settings that determine how pasted tabs are 
treated, and that may depend on the target window settings for the file type 
when pasted.
On Cygwin and Linux that probably depends on the vim compatibility settings, and 
settings in:

	$ strings -n5 /bin/vi | egrep '^[.~$/].*(ex|vim?)rc' | sort -u
	$HOME/.exrc
	$HOME/.virc
	.exrc
	.virc
	/etc/virc
	~/.vim/vimrc

whereas BSD systems may still provide original n/vi.

-- 
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains
too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised.
[Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.]

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* Re: Cygwin 3.1.7 - xterm v360.1 - columns pasted from Excel no longer separated by tab
  2020-12-18  6:22 ` Brian Inglis
@ 2020-12-18 18:22   ` Bill shaffer
  2020-12-19  7:26     ` Brian Inglis
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bill shaffer @ 2020-12-18 18:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

Thank you for the response!  This got me looking in the right direction.  I agree with what you say that the clipboard contents are determined by the source.  Given that I could paste (from the same buffer) into the console window and get tabs, I had to assume that the copy process was grabbing the tabs as expected.

So looking for editor and window settings, and looking in the xterm(1) man page, I found disallowedPasteControls, which says the default includes ASCII tabs:
...
The default is
BS,HT,DEL,ESC
BS - ASCII backspace
HT - ASCII tab
DEL - ASCII delete
ESC - ASCII escape
...

I put the following line in my .Xdefaults, removing HT:
xterm*disallowedPasteControls: BS,DEL,ESC

and restarted Xwin server, and now my tabs paste as expected.

That entry doesn't even exist in my older installation's man page.  I found a post indicating that it was added in xterm patch 333 in 2018, which would be newer than my previous install.

Thanks for the help!

Bill
________________________________
From: Cygwin <cygwin-bounces@cygwin.com> on behalf of Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 11:22 PM
To: cygwin@cygwin.com <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Subject: Re: Cygwin 3.1.7 - xterm v360.1 - columns pasted from Excel no longer separated by tab

On 2020-12-17 16:03, Bill Shaffer via Cygwin wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I am using Cygwin 3.1.7 and xterm 360.1 on Windows 10.  I run the X server and
> work in xterm windows.  When I copy a selection from an Excel spreadsheet and
> paste it into a vi session in an xterm window, the spreadsheet columns are
> separated by spaces.  If I paste into a vi session in a cygwin 3.1.7 console, I
> get tabs as separators.  If I run xterm on another host and send the display to
> my X Server, I get tabs.
>
> In my previous version of Cygwin - which was probably about 2-3 years old - when
> I did this the columns were separated by tabs.  I still see tab separators in
> Cygwin 1.7.31 (Windows 8.1).  I can type tabs just fine in the 3.1.7 xterm.  It
> seems to be something in the local xterm that is converting the pasted tabs to
> spaces.  I don't think it's the copy portion of the operation, or I wouldn't get
> tabs in the console.
>
> Did something change at some point that would explain this behavior?  Is there a
> way to get back to having the columns separated by tabs?
>
> I understand that usually copying and pasting implies visible characters and
> that tabs are usually only visible as spaces, and this is the result I would
> expect when copying visible text separated by tabs.  However, when pasting from
> Excel, the columns have always come across separated by tabs - and still do,
> except for in xterm.
>
> My TERM is xterm - I've tried vt100 and vt220 as well.  My TERM is also xterm in
> the working examples above.

The consensus on X is that the characters copied are determined by the source,
and Windows apps often offer their clipboard info in multiple formats, if you
check using an app that allows you to choose the format pasted e.g LibreOffice.

Having said that, editors also have settings that determine how pasted tabs are
treated, and that may depend on the target window settings for the file type
when pasted.
On Cygwin and Linux that probably depends on the vim compatibility settings, and
settings in:

        $ strings -n5 /bin/vi | egrep '^[.~$/].*(ex|vim?)rc' | sort -u
        $HOME/.exrc
        $HOME/.virc
        .exrc
        .virc
        /etc/virc
        ~/.vim/vimrc

whereas BSD systems may still provide original n/vi.

--
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains
too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised.
[Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.]
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* Re: Cygwin 3.1.7 - xterm v360.1 - columns pasted from Excel no longer separated by tab
  2020-12-18 18:22   ` Bill shaffer
@ 2020-12-19  7:26     ` Brian Inglis
  2020-12-19  9:35       ` Thomas Wolff
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Brian Inglis @ 2020-12-19  7:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 2020-12-18 11:22, Bill shaffer via Cygwin wrote:
> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 11:22 PM, Brian Inglis wrote:
>> On 2020-12-17 16:03, Bill Shaffer via Cygwin wrote:
>>> I am using Cygwin 3.1.7 and xterm 360.1 on Windows 10.  I run the X server and
>>> work in xterm windows.  When I copy a selection from an Excel spreadsheet and
>>> paste it into a vi session in an xterm window, the spreadsheet columns are
>>> separated by spaces.  If I paste into a vi session in a cygwin 3.1.7 console, I
>>> get tabs as separators.  If I run xterm on another host and send the display to
>>> my X Server, I get tabs.
>>> In my previous version of Cygwin - which was probably about 2-3 years old - when
>>> I did this the columns were separated by tabs.  I still see tab separators in
>>> Cygwin 1.7.31 (Windows 8.1).  I can type tabs just fine in the 3.1.7 xterm.  It
>>> seems to be something in the local xterm that is converting the pasted tabs to
>>> spaces.  I don't think it's the copy portion of the operation, or I wouldn't get
>>> tabs in the console.
>>> Did something change at some point that would explain this behavior?  Is there a
>>> way to get back to having the columns separated by tabs?
>>> I understand that usually copying and pasting implies visible characters and
>>> that tabs are usually only visible as spaces, and this is the result I would
>>> expect when copying visible text separated by tabs.  However, when pasting from
>>> Excel, the columns have always come across separated by tabs - and still do,
>>> except for in xterm.
>>> My TERM is xterm - I've tried vt100 and vt220 as well.  My TERM is also xterm in
>>> the working examples above.

>> The consensus on X is that the characters copied are determined by the source,
>> and Windows apps often offer their clipboard info in multiple formats, if you
>> check using an app that allows you to choose the format pasted e.g LibreOffice.
>> Having said that, editors also have settings that determine how pasted tabs are
>> treated, and that may depend on the target window settings for the file type
>> when pasted.
>> On Cygwin and Linux that probably depends on the vim compatibility settings, and
>> settings in:
>>          $ strings -n5 /bin/vi | egrep '^[.~$/].*(ex|vim?)rc' | sort -u
>>          $HOME/.exrc
>>          $HOME/.virc
>>          .exrc
>>          .virc
>>          /etc/virc
>>          ~/.vim/vimrc
>> whereas BSD systems may still provide original n/vi.

> Thank you for the response!  This got me looking in the right direction.  I 
> agree with what you say that the clipboard contents are determined by the 
> source. Given that I could paste (from the same buffer) into the console 
> window and get tabs, I had to assume that the copy process was grabbing the
> tabs as expected. > So looking for editor and window settings, and looking in the xterm(1) man
> page, I found disallowedPasteControls, which says the default includes ASCII
> tabs: 
> ... > The default is
 > BS,HT,DEL,ESC
 > BS - ASCII backspace
 > HT - ASCII tab
 > DEL - ASCII delete
 > ESC - ASCII escape
 > ...
 > I put the following line in my .Xdefaults, removing HT:
 > xterm*disallowedPasteControls: BS,DEL,ESC
 > and restarted Xwin server, and now my tabs paste as expected.
> That entry doesn't even exist in my older installation's man page. I found a 
> post indicating that it was added in xterm patch 333 in 2018, which would be 
> newer than my previous install.
I am surprised that any terminal would remap normal input characters without an 
explicit non-default setting, and would expect all characters to be allowed 
unless there is some exceptional (compatibility/security) reason for blocking or 
remapping, so it never occurred to me to suggest that layer!

I notice that on the xterm(/vttest/ncurses/lynx/etc.) maintainer's web man page 
links:

https://invisible-island.net/xterm/manpage/xterm.html#VT100-Widget-Resources:disallowedPasteControls

this resource converts the listed characters to a space, whereas another 
positive resource:

https://invisible-island.net/xterm/manpage/xterm.html#VT100-Widget-Resources:allowPasteControls

allows control characters to be pasted, and yet another allows high ASCII 
characters:

https://invisible-island.net/xterm/manpage/xterm.html#VT100-Widget-Resources:allowC1Printable

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* Re: Cygwin 3.1.7 - xterm v360.1 - columns pasted from Excel no longer separated by tab
  2020-12-19  7:26     ` Brian Inglis
@ 2020-12-19  9:35       ` Thomas Wolff
  2020-12-19 21:35         ` Brian Inglis
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Wolff @ 2020-12-19  9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin



Am 19.12.2020 um 08:26 schrieb Brian Inglis:
> On 2020-12-18 11:22, Bill shaffer via Cygwin wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 11:22 PM, Brian Inglis wrote:
>>> On 2020-12-17 16:03, Bill Shaffer via Cygwin wrote:
>>>> I am using Cygwin 3.1.7 and xterm 360.1 on Windows 10.  I run the X 
>>>> server and
>>>> work in xterm windows.  When I copy a selection from an Excel 
>>>> spreadsheet and
>>>> paste it into a vi session in an xterm window, the spreadsheet 
>>>> columns are
>>>> separated by spaces.  If I paste into a vi session in a cygwin 
>>>> 3.1.7 console, I
>>>> get tabs as separators.  If I run xterm on another host and send 
>>>> the display to
>>>> my X Server, I get tabs.
>>>> In my previous version of Cygwin - which was probably about 2-3 
>>>> years old - when
>>>> I did this the columns were separated by tabs.  I still see tab 
>>>> separators in
>>>> Cygwin 1.7.31 (Windows 8.1).  I can type tabs just fine in the 
>>>> 3.1.7 xterm.  It
>>>> seems to be something in the local xterm that is converting the 
>>>> pasted tabs to
>>>> spaces.  I don't think it's the copy portion of the operation, or I 
>>>> wouldn't get
>>>> tabs in the console.
>>>> Did something change at some point that would explain this 
>>>> behavior?  Is there a
>>>> way to get back to having the columns separated by tabs?
>>>> I understand that usually copying and pasting implies visible 
>>>> characters and
>>>> that tabs are usually only visible as spaces, and this is the 
>>>> result I would
>>>> expect when copying visible text separated by tabs. However, when 
>>>> pasting from
>>>> Excel, the columns have always come across separated by tabs - and 
>>>> still do,
>>>> except for in xterm.
>>>> My TERM is xterm - I've tried vt100 and vt220 as well.  My TERM is 
>>>> also xterm in
>>>> the working examples above.
>
>>> The consensus on X is that the characters copied are determined by 
>>> the source,
>>> and Windows apps often offer their clipboard info in multiple 
>>> formats, if you
>>> check using an app that allows you to choose the format pasted e.g 
>>> LibreOffice.
>>> Having said that, editors also have settings that determine how 
>>> pasted tabs are
>>> treated, and that may depend on the target window settings for the 
>>> file type
>>> when pasted.
>>> On Cygwin and Linux that probably depends on the vim compatibility 
>>> settings, and
>>> settings in:
>>>          $ strings -n5 /bin/vi | egrep '^[.~$/].*(ex|vim?)rc' | sort -u
>>>          $HOME/.exrc
>>>          $HOME/.virc
>>>          .exrc
>>>          .virc
>>>          /etc/virc
>>>          ~/.vim/vimrc
>>> whereas BSD systems may still provide original n/vi.
>
>> Thank you for the response!  This got me looking in the right 
>> direction.  I agree with what you say that the clipboard contents are 
>> determined by the source. Given that I could paste (from the same 
>> buffer) into the console window and get tabs, I had to assume that 
>> the copy process was grabbing the
>> tabs as expected. > So looking for editor and window settings, and 
>> looking in the xterm(1) man
>> page, I found disallowedPasteControls, which says the default 
>> includes ASCII
>> tabs: ... > The default is
> > BS,HT,DEL,ESC
> > BS - ASCII backspace
> > HT - ASCII tab
> > DEL - ASCII delete
> > ESC - ASCII escape
> > ...
> > I put the following line in my .Xdefaults, removing HT:
> > xterm*disallowedPasteControls: BS,DEL,ESC
> > and restarted Xwin server, and now my tabs paste as expected.
xrdb .Xdefaults and restart xterm would be sufficient
>> That entry doesn't even exist in my older installation's man page. I 
>> found a post indicating that it was added in xterm patch 333 in 2018, 
>> which would be newer than my previous install.
> I am surprised that any terminal would remap normal input characters 
> without an explicit non-default setting, and would expect all 
> characters to be allowed unless there is some exceptional 
> (compatibility/security) reason for blocking or remapping, so it never 
> occurred to me to suggest that layer!
>
> I notice that on the xterm(/vttest/ncurses/lynx/etc.) maintainer's web 
> man page links:
>
> https://invisible-island.net/xterm/manpage/xterm.html#VT100-Widget-Resources:disallowedPasteControls 
>
This resource was introduced in xterm 333 (2018). Should the cygwin 
xterm package change the default?

>
> this resource converts the listed characters to a space, whereas 
> another positive resource:
>
> https://invisible-island.net/xterm/manpage/xterm.html#VT100-Widget-Resources:allowPasteControls 
>
>
> allows control characters to be pasted, and yet another allows high 
> ASCII characters:
>
> https://invisible-island.net/xterm/manpage/xterm.html#VT100-Widget-Resources:allowC1Printable 
>
>


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* Re: Cygwin 3.1.7 - xterm v360.1 - columns pasted from Excel no longer separated by tab
  2020-12-19  9:35       ` Thomas Wolff
@ 2020-12-19 21:35         ` Brian Inglis
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Brian Inglis @ 2020-12-19 21:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 2020-12-19 02:35, Thomas Wolff wrote:
> Am 19.12.2020 um 08:26 schrieb Brian Inglis:
>> On 2020-12-18 11:22, Bill shaffer wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 17, 2020 11:22 PM, Brian Inglis wrote:
>>>> On 2020-12-17 16:03, Bill Shaffer wrote:
>>>>> I am using Cygwin 3.1.7 and xterm 360.1 on Windows 10.  I run the X server and
>>>>> work in xterm windows.  When I copy a selection from an Excel spreadsheet and
>>>>> paste it into a vi session in an xterm window, the spreadsheet columns are
>>>>> separated by spaces.  If I paste into a vi session in a cygwin 3.1.7 
>>>>> console, I
>>>>> get tabs as separators.  If I run xterm on another host and send the 
>>>>> display to
>>>>> my X Server, I get tabs.
>>>>> In my previous version of Cygwin - which was probably about 2-3 years old - 
>>>>> when
>>>>> I did this the columns were separated by tabs.  I still see tab separators in
>>>>> Cygwin 1.7.31 (Windows 8.1).  I can type tabs just fine in the 3.1.7 
>>>>> xterm.  It
>>>>> seems to be something in the local xterm that is converting the pasted tabs to
>>>>> spaces.  I don't think it's the copy portion of the operation, or I 
>>>>> wouldn't get
>>>>> tabs in the console.
>>>>> Did something change at some point that would explain this behavior?  Is 
>>>>> there a
>>>>> way to get back to having the columns separated by tabs?
>>>>> I understand that usually copying and pasting implies visible characters and
>>>>> that tabs are usually only visible as spaces, and this is the result I would
>>>>> expect when copying visible text separated by tabs. However, when pasting from
>>>>> Excel, the columns have always come across separated by tabs - and still do,
>>>>> except for in xterm.
>>>>> My TERM is xterm - I've tried vt100 and vt220 as well.  My TERM is also 
>>>>> xterm in
>>>>> the working examples above.
>>
>>>> The consensus on X is that the characters copied are determined by the source,
>>>> and Windows apps often offer their clipboard info in multiple formats, if you
>>>> check using an app that allows you to choose the format pasted e.g LibreOffice.
>>>> Having said that, editors also have settings that determine how pasted tabs are
>>>> treated, and that may depend on the target window settings for the file type
>>>> when pasted.
>>>> On Cygwin and Linux that probably depends on the vim compatibility settings, 
>>>> and
>>>> settings in:
>>>>          $ strings -n5 /bin/vi | egrep '^[.~$/].*(ex|vim?)rc' | sort -u
>>>>          $HOME/.exrc
>>>>          $HOME/.virc
>>>>          .exrc
>>>>          .virc
>>>>          /etc/virc
>>>>          ~/.vim/vimrc
>>>> whereas BSD systems may still provide original n/vi.
>>
>>> Thank you for the response!  This got me looking in the right direction.  I 
>>> agree with what you say that the clipboard contents are determined by the 
>>> source. Given that I could paste (from the same buffer) into the console 
>>> window and get tabs, I had to assume that the copy process was grabbing the
>>> tabs as expected. > So looking for editor and window settings, and looking in 
>>> the xterm(1) man
>>> page, I found disallowedPasteControls, which says the default includes ASCII
>>> tabs: ... > The default is
>> > BS,HT,DEL,ESC
>> > BS - ASCII backspace
>> > HT - ASCII tab
>> > DEL - ASCII delete
>> > ESC - ASCII escape
>> > ...
>> > I put the following line in my .Xdefaults, removing HT:
>> > xterm*disallowedPasteControls: BS,DEL,ESC
>> > and restarted Xwin server, and now my tabs paste as expected.
> xrdb .Xdefaults and restart xterm would be sufficient
>>> That entry doesn't even exist in my older installation's man page. I found a 
>>> post indicating that it was added in xterm patch 333 in 2018, which would be 
>>> newer than my previous install.
>> I am surprised that any terminal would remap normal input characters without 
>> an explicit non-default setting, and would expect all characters to be allowed 
>> unless there is some exceptional (compatibility/security) reason for blocking 
>> or remapping, so it never occurred to me to suggest that layer!
>>
>> I notice that on the xterm(/vttest/ncurses/lynx/etc.) maintainer's web man 
>> page links:
>>
>> https://invisible-island.net/xterm/manpage/xterm.html#VT100-Widget-Resources:disallowedPasteControls 
>>
> This resource was introduced in xterm 333 (2018). Should the cygwin xterm 
> package change the default?

I don't believe so, but it may be useful to ask TED about reasons for related 
resource defaults changing behaviour.
As mintty and xterm maintainer, if you are in touch over terminal issues, could 
you ask, and request followup here, as I thought he might be subscribed or 
checking from other comments?

>> this resource converts the listed characters to a space, whereas another 
>> positive resource:
>>
>> https://invisible-island.net/xterm/manpage/xterm.html#VT100-Widget-Resources:allowPasteControls 
>>
>>
>> allows control characters to be pasted, and yet another allows high ASCII 
>> characters:
>>
>> https://invisible-island.net/xterm/manpage/xterm.html#VT100-Widget-Resources:allowC1Printable 

-- 
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

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