RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated cygwin package rxvt-2.7.9-3

RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated cygwin package rxvt-2.7.9-3

[Randall R Schulz]

Hi,

I gave this a try. The "Next" scroll bars are nice looking, and I've 
generally been in favor of grouping the scroll arrows at one end of the bar 
(on the Mac this was an option, possibly using some add-on GUI modification 
software, I don't recall).

However, what I'm seeing when I enable the Next scrollbars in RXVT (latest 
release--version 2.7.9) is that holding down on the scroll arrows does not 
engage continuous scrolling. It just scrolls one line in the appropriate 
direction then stops.

Also, if I mouse down in the page scrolling area and hold down until the 
scroll thumb reaches the cursor, stopping the scrolling, it will not start 
scrolling again if I move the mouse outside in the thumb (in the same 
direction as the original scroll, of course). Is that deliberate?

I can't see any options mentioned in the man page that should control these 
behaviors. The latter I could live with, but the former (no auto-scroll 
when holding the mouse down on the scroll arrows) is onerous and seems to 
me to be a bug.

By the way, even though there appears to be no command-line options for 
choosing among the three available kinds of scroll bars, I don't know why 
the resources file is "far preferable" since only with command line options 
can you readily have different variations available (by having different 
shortcuts or start-up scripts to launch RXVT).

Randall Schulz


At 04:26 2003-01-08, Vince Hoffman wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 01:21:39AM +0000, Rui Carmo wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > just add the line:
> > >
> > > rxvt*scrollstyle: next
> > >
> > >  to your ~/.Xresources file.
> > >
> > > (You might want to run "rxvt --help" or check the man page for
> > > other valid resources you can set this way, since it is far
> > > preferable to adding command-line switches to rxvt)
> > >
> > > Works perfectly in Win32 (so much so that people think my
> > > laptop is running Linux :))
> >
> > Does this mean that the option is available only under X ?
>
>
>No just try it and you'll see it works fine with the non X one.
>(well it does for me anyway.)


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RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated cygwin package rxvt-2.7.9-3

[Vince Hoffman]

> 
> On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 01:21:39AM +0000, Rui Carmo wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > just add the line:
> > 
> > rxvt*scrollstyle: next
> > 
> >  to your ~/.Xresources file.
> > 
> > (You might want to run "rxvt --help" or check the man page 
> for other 
> > valid resources you can set this way, since it is far preferable to 
> > adding command-line switches to rxvt)
> > 
> > Works perfectly in Win32 (so much so that people think my laptop is 
> > running Linux :))
> 
> Does this mean that the option is available only under X ?
>  


No just try it and you'll see it works fine with the non X one. 
(well it does for me anyway.) 

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RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated cygwin package rxvt-2.7.9-3

[Jeremy Hetzler]

At 09:09 AM 1/8/2003 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
>By the way, even though there appears to be no command-line options for 
>choosing among the three available kinds of scroll bars, I don't know why 
>the resources file is "far preferable" since only with command line 
>options can you readily have different variations available (by having 
>different shortcuts or start-up scripts to launch RXVT).

rxvt --scrollstyle next

 From the man page:

>        Note  that  rxvt  permits the resource name to be used as a 
> long-option
>        (--/++ option) so the potential command-line 
> options  are  far  greater
>        than those listed.  For example: `rxvt --loginShell --color1 Orange'.


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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated cygwin package rxvt-2.7.9-3

[Olaf Foellinger]

On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 01:59:20AM -0800, Jeremy Hetzler wrote:
> At 09:09 AM 1/8/2003 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> >By the way, even though there appears to be no command-line options for 
> >choosing among the three available kinds of scroll bars, I don't know why 
> >the resources file is "far preferable" since only with command line 
> >options can you readily have different variations available (by having 
> >different shortcuts or start-up scripts to launch RXVT).
> 
> rxvt --scrollstyle next
> 
> From the man page:
> 
> >       Note  that  rxvt  permits the resource name to be used as a 
> >long-option
> >       (--/++ option) so the potential command-line 
> >options  are  far  greater
> >       than those listed.  For example: `rxvt --loginShell --color1 
> >       Orange'.

Thank you, this works for me. I did have found this and other remarks in
the manpage but had difficulties to figure out the exakt syntax.
 
 
Gruss Olaf Föllinger

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated cygwin package rxvt-2.7.9-3

[Rui Carmo]

Randall R Schulz wrote:
> By the way, even though there appears to be no command-line options for 
> choosing among the three available kinds of scroll bars, I don't know 
> why the resources file is "far preferable" since only with command line 
> options can you readily have different variations available (by having 
> different shortcuts or start-up scripts to launch RXVT).

Call me picky. I'd rather have a single configuration file with stuff 
like scrollbar style/placement/colors that I can copy to another box and 
be done with it.

For instance, this is my current .Xdefaults:
cat .Xdefaults | grep rxvt
rxvt*font:vt6x13
rxvt*saveLines:30000
rxvt*termName:xterm
rxvt*loginShell:true
rxvt*scrollBar_right:true
#rxvt*troughColor:black
#rxvt*scrollColor:blue
rxvt*reverseVideo:true
rxvt*scrollstyle:next

Of course, I can make a shortcut like:
D:\bin\rxvt.exe  -tn xterm -sr -fn "vt6x13" -sl 30000 -e bash --login -i

But having it all pre-defined allows me to just type:

rxvt -fn "Lucida Console-8" -geometry 132x24 &

If I want, say, a terminal for using mySQL in.

You see, the resource file way is _simpler_ :)

1) Less typing.
2) You get to use exactly the same settings across more machines (I just 
copied the file across to my Mac yesterday, for instance).
3) You don't have to memorize all the CLI switches.
4) Tou get the same degree of control (sometimes even more, depending on 
the X app involved).

In short, the settings are "readily available", as you put it, and it's 
faster to create variations from the same baseline config (unless you 
prefer having entirely different terminals, with different background 
colors, fonts, etc.) :)

Start-up scripts and shortcuts are probably easier for the beginner, but:

1) They're finnicky to use (you end up typing and re-editing them a lot 
more)
2) You tend to lose shortcuts a lot when changing machines

There is also the fact that .Xdefaults/.Xresources is The One True Way 
of doing configs in X11, but I'll stop pontificating right here. :)

R.

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated cygwin package rxvt-2.7.9-3

[Olaf Foellinger]

On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 01:21:39AM +0000, Rui Carmo wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> just add the line:
> 
> rxvt*scrollstyle: next
> 
>  to your ~/.Xresources file.
> 
> (You might want to run "rxvt --help" or check the man page for other 
> valid resources you can set this way, since it is far preferable to 
> adding command-line switches to rxvt)
> 
> Works perfectly in Win32 (so much so that people think my laptop is 
> running Linux :))

Does this mean that the option is available only under X ?
 
 
Gruss Olaf Föllinger

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated cygwin package rxvt-2.7.9-3

[Rui Carmo]

Hi there,

just add the line:

rxvt*scrollstyle: next

  to your ~/.Xresources file.

(You might want to run "rxvt --help" or check the man page for other 
valid resources you can set this way, since it is far preferable to 
adding command-line switches to rxvt)

Works perfectly in Win32 (so much so that people think my laptop is 
running Linux :))

R.

On Monday, Jan 6, 2003, at 12:37 Europe/Lisbon, Olaf Foellinger wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 03:33:08AM -0500, Steve O wrote:
>> Hi,
>> rxvt is a terminal program that can be used instead of the windows
>> command shell.  It does not require an X server.
>>
>> This release enables the NeXT and xterm scrollbars as well as
>> Shift-KP+ and Shift-KP- to change fonts.   Thanks to Sergei Okhapkin 
>> for
>> pointing out that the font changing keys did not work.
>
> Can I use NeXT scrollbars in non-X ? If yes - how ? I have difficulties
> to get the right cl option. 'rxvt -scrollstyle:next' gives an error.
>
>
> Gruss Olaf Föllinger
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated cygwin package rxvt-2.7.9-3

[Olaf Foellinger]

On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 03:33:08AM -0500, Steve O wrote:
> Hi,
> rxvt is a terminal program that can be used instead of the windows
> command shell.  It does not require an X server.
> 
> This release enables the NeXT and xterm scrollbars as well as
> Shift-KP+ and Shift-KP- to change fonts.   Thanks to Sergei Okhapkin for
> pointing out that the font changing keys did not work.

Can I use NeXT scrollbars in non-X ? If yes - how ? I have difficulties
to get the right cl option. 'rxvt -scrollstyle:next' gives an error.
 
 
Gruss Olaf Föllinger

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated cygwin package rxvt-2.7.9-3

[Rui Carmo]

Whohoo! NeXT scrollbars? That's a nice Xmas present. Thanks! :)

R.


On Tuesday, Dec 24, 2002, at 08:33 Europe/Lisbon, Steve O wrote:

> Hi,
> rxvt is a terminal program that can be used instead of the windows
> command shell.  It does not require an X server.
>
> This release enables the NeXT and xterm scrollbars as well as
> Shift-KP+ and Shift-KP- to change fonts.   Thanks to Sergei Okhapkin  
> for
> pointing out that the font changing keys did not work.
>
> -steve
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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated cygwin package rxvt-2.7.9-3

[Steve O]

Hi,
rxvt is a terminal program that can be used instead of the windows
command shell.  It does not require an X server.

This release enables the NeXT and xterm scrollbars as well as
Shift-KP+ and Shift-KP- to change fonts.   Thanks to Sergei Okhapkin for
pointing out that the font changing keys did not work.

-steve

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