Bug report

Bug report

[Kern Sibbald]

I guess you guys (and gal) really don't want bug
reports because it is not at all obvious where
to send them.  

Anyway here is one:

Running WinXP Home version.

Using Cygwin 1.3.20

When running my program with LocalSystem userid
as a service, doing a pthread_kill(thread_id, SIGUSR2) 
causes some sort of memory fault referencing memory at 0x3a 
(or something like that because the program disappears
poof).

Running as a normal user works fine.


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Re: Bug report

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On 5 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:

> I guess you guys (and gal) really don't want bug
> reports because it is not at all obvious where
> to send them.

This is the right place.

> Anyway here is one:
>
> Running WinXP Home version.
>
> Using Cygwin 1.3.20
>
> When running my program with LocalSystem userid
> as a service, doing a pthread_kill(thread_id, SIGUSR2)
> causes some sort of memory fault referencing memory at 0x3a
> (or something like that because the program disappears
> poof).
>
> Running as a normal user works fine.

What's the exact error message (I assume you get a popup box)?
Is there a stacktrace file generated?  Did you try setting
"error_start:c:/cygwin/bin/dumper.exe" in your CYGWIN environment
variable?  Did you try running the program from the command line in a
LocalSystem-owned shell?  Can you provide a simple testcase that
reproduces your problem?
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Re: Bug report

[Kern Sibbald]

Hello,

On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 18:38, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> On 5 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> 
> > I guess you guys (and gal) really don't want bug
> > reports because it is not at all obvious where
> > to send them.
> 
> This is the right place.

Great.

> 
> > Anyway here is one:
> >
> > Running WinXP Home version.
> >
> > Using Cygwin 1.3.20
> >
> > When running my program with LocalSystem userid
> > as a service, doing a pthread_kill(thread_id, SIGUSR2)
> > causes some sort of memory fault referencing memory at 0x3a
> > (or something like that because the program disappears
> > poof).
> >
> > Running as a normal user works fine.
> 
> What's the exact error message (I assume you get a popup box)?

No, I get absolutely nothing. Poof and it is gone, well, the
service manager knows it went away but not why.

A friend ran the program on Win2K and he got:

      Instruction at 0x0041276a referenced memory at 0x3c

That appears to be somewhere in the cygwin1.dll.

> Is there a stacktrace file generated?

If it is, I don't know where the system put it.

>   Did you try setting
> "error_start:c:/cygwin/bin/dumper.exe" in your CYGWIN environment
> variable?  

No, if you can tell me how to set the environment variable for
a service, I'll try it, but since it is a service, I am unlikely
to get any output.

> Did you try running the program from the command line in a
> LocalSystem-owned shell?  

I ran it in an rxvt shell under my id and it does not crash.
Tell me how to get a LocalSystem owned shell and I will try
it.  This is XP Home, so I don't have access to a lot of the
XP security dialogs.

> Can you provide a simple testcase that
> reproduces your problem?

Probably not as my program is some 65K+ lines of code.

I've solved the problem for myself by doing the "signal"
a different way, so it is not critical for me but it cost
about 8 hours of debugging -- primarily due to the fact that
it seems to be dependent on whether or not it is a service.

Best regards,

Kern


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Re: Bug report

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On 5 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 18:38, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > On 5 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> >
> > > I guess you guys (and gal) really don't want bug
> > > reports because it is not at all obvious where
> > > to send them.
> >
> > This is the right place.
>
> Great.
>
> > > Anyway here is one:
> > >
> > > Running WinXP Home version.
> > >
> > > Using Cygwin 1.3.20
> > >
> > > When running my program with LocalSystem userid
> > > as a service, doing a pthread_kill(thread_id, SIGUSR2)
> > > causes some sort of memory fault referencing memory at 0x3a
> > > (or something like that because the program disappears
> > > poof).
> > >
> > > Running as a normal user works fine.
> >
> > What's the exact error message (I assume you get a popup box)?
>
> No, I get absolutely nothing. Poof and it is gone, well, the
> service manager knows it went away but not why.
>
> A friend ran the program on Win2K and he got:
>
>       Instruction at 0x0041276a referenced memory at 0x3c
>
> That appears to be somewhere in the cygwin1.dll.

Try checking the "Allow service to interact with the desktop" box, and you
should see the error popup on your system too.

> > Is there a stacktrace file generated?
>
> If it is, I don't know where the system put it.

The system should put it in the directory from which the program is run.

> >   Did you try setting
> > "error_start:c:/cygwin/bin/dumper.exe" in your CYGWIN environment
> > variable?
>
> No, if you can tell me how to set the environment variable for
> a service, I'll try it, but since it is a service, I am unlikely
> to get any output.

"cygrunsrv --help", or "man cygrunsrv", or see /bin/ssh-host-config for an
example.  You might also need the "Allow service to interact with desktop"
bit.

> > Did you try running the program from the command line in a
> > LocalSystem-owned shell?
>
> I ran it in an rxvt shell under my id and it does not crash.
> Tell me how to get a LocalSystem owned shell and I will try
> it.  This is XP Home, so I don't have access to a lot of the
> XP security dialogs.

"at <time> /interactive c:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -i --login"
(<time> should be current time however long you're willing to wait, at
least one minute).  "at /?" for help.
[Note, this works on Win2k, don't know about XP Home].

> > Can you provide a simple testcase that
> > reproduces your problem?
>
> Probably not as my program is some 65K+ lines of code.

You could try a simple program that calls the offending function (after
creating some threads, most likely), and see if the problem manifests...

> I've solved the problem for myself by doing the "signal"
> a different way, so it is not critical for me but it cost
> about 8 hours of debugging -- primarily due to the fact that
> it seems to be dependent on whether or not it is a service.
>
> Best regards,
> Kern

It's most likely dependent on the value of your CYGWIN variable or some
permissions (as the service runs as LocalSystem).  Trying the program out
from a LocalSystem-owned window (see above) should give you some idea of
what's at fault.
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Re: Bug report

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Mon, 5 May 2003, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:

> On 5 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> [snip]
> > > Did you try running the program from the command line in a
> > > LocalSystem-owned shell?
> >
> > I ran it in an rxvt shell under my id and it does not crash.
> > Tell me how to get a LocalSystem owned shell and I will try
> > it.  This is XP Home, so I don't have access to a lot of the
> > XP security dialogs.
>
> "at <time> /interactive c:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -i --login"
> (<time> should be current time however long you're willing to wait, at
                                ^ plus

> least one minute).  "at /?" for help.
> [Note, this works on Win2k, don't know about XP Home].

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pthread_signal() references illegal memory address

[Kern Sibbald]

Hello,

Please don't think I'm not interested in this if
it takes a bit of time to get back to you ...

See responses below:


On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 19:30, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> On 5 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 18:38, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > > On 5 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > >
> > > > I guess you guys (and gal) really don't want bug
> > > > reports because it is not at all obvious where
> > > > to send them.
> > >
> > > This is the right place.
> >
> > Great.
> >
> > > > Anyway here is one:
> > > >
> > > > Running WinXP Home version.
> > > >
> > > > Using Cygwin 1.3.20
> > > >
> > > > When running my program with LocalSystem userid
> > > > as a service, doing a pthread_kill(thread_id, SIGUSR2)
> > > > causes some sort of memory fault referencing memory at 0x3a
> > > > (or something like that because the program disappears
> > > > poof).
> > > >
> > > > Running as a normal user works fine.
> > >
> > > What's the exact error message (I assume you get a popup box)?
> >
> > No, I get absolutely nothing. Poof and it is gone, well, the
> > service manager knows it went away but not why.
> >
> > A friend ran the program on Win2K and he got:
> >
> >       Instruction at 0x0041276a referenced memory at 0x3c
> >
> > That appears to be somewhere in the cygwin1.dll.
> 
> Try checking the "Allow service to interact with the desktop" box, and you
> should see the error popup on your system too.

My service always interacts with the desktop. It is capable of
doing MessageBox(), and it always has an icon in the system tray
with a menu that works.  

I get absolutely nothing in terms of output of any sort when
the program crashes -- as I said, it goes poof.  This could
be my own fault for trapping signals, but normally during
signal handling there is a considerable amount of printout,
...

> 
> > > Is there a stacktrace file generated?
> >
> > If it is, I don't know where the system put it.
> 
> The system should put it in the directory from which the program is run.

There is no stack dump or any other file in the directory from
which the program (Bacula) executes.

> 
> > >   Did you try setting
> > > "error_start:c:/cygwin/bin/dumper.exe" in your CYGWIN environment
> > > variable?

I doubt this would help much, maybe I am wrong, please see below.

> >
> > No, if you can tell me how to set the environment variable for
> > a service, I'll try it, but since it is a service, I am unlikely
> > to get any output.
> 
> "cygrunsrv --help", or "man cygrunsrv", or see /bin/ssh-host-config for an
> example.  You might also need the "Allow service to interact with desktop"
> bit.

None of the above mentioned things exist on my system. In any case,
I have no problem setting the program up as a service (it installs 
itself with allowing interaction with the desktop by default).

> 
> > > Did you try running the program from the command line in a
> > > LocalSystem-owned shell?
> >
> > I ran it in an rxvt shell under my id and it does not crash.
> > Tell me how to get a LocalSystem owned shell and I will try
> > it.  This is XP Home, so I don't have access to a lot of the
> > XP security dialogs.
> 
> "at <time> /interactive c:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -i --login"
> (<time> should be current time however long you're willing to wait, at
> least one minute).  "at /?" for help.
> [Note, this works on Win2k, don't know about XP Home].

Yes, your trick works on WinXP Home too. So much for Windows
security!

The interesting thing is that when I run the program under
a rxvt window with the bash shell with the LocalSystem account,
it does NOT crash.  I also ran the program under
a MS DOS shell and I get the same result: it does
not crash.

It crashes only if it is started by the service dialog.

> 
> > > Can you provide a simple testcase that
> > > reproduces your problem?
> >
> > Probably not as my program is some 65K+ lines of code.

> You could try a simple program that calls the offending function (after
> creating some threads, most likely), and see if the problem manifests...


Well, I was considering doing so, since creating a thread
and sending it a signal is a 10 line program. However, this
problem requires the program to run as a service, and that
is a considerable amount of code.

> 
> 
> > I've solved the problem for myself by doing the "signal"
> > a different way, so it is not critical for me but it cost
> > about 8 hours of debugging -- primarily due to the fact that
> > it seems to be dependent on whether or not it is a service.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Kern
> 
> It's most likely dependent on the value of your CYGWIN variable or some
> permissions (as the service runs as LocalSystem).  Trying the program out
> from a LocalSystem-owned window (see above) should give you some idea of
> what's at fault.

I agree with you, but my CYGWIN environment variable is not set.  

If you have any other ideas I'll try them, otherwise, I'll avoid
using pthread_signal() under CYGWIN.

Best regards,

Kern


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Re: pthread_signal() references illegal memory address

[Joshua Daniel Franklin]

On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 12:51:58PM +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > > > Did you try running the program from the command line in a
> > > > LocalSystem-owned shell?
> > >
> > > I ran it in an rxvt shell under my id and it does not crash.
> > > Tell me how to get a LocalSystem owned shell and I will try
> > > it.  This is XP Home, so I don't have access to a lot of the
> > > XP security dialogs.
> > 
> > "at <time> /interactive c:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -i --login"
> > (<time> should be current time however long you're willing to wait, at
> > least one minute).  "at /?" for help.
> > [Note, this works on Win2k, don't know about XP Home].
> 
> Yes, your trick works on WinXP Home too. So much for Windows
> security!

In case anyone is interested, I was working on a friend's XP Home PC
and tried this with the low-priviledge "Guest" account, but any
'at' command just gave 'Access is denied'. :(
Normal accounts work fine. 

Not a suprise, but could be useful information. 

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Re: pthread_signal() references illegal memory address

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On 8 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Please don't think I'm not interested in this if
> it takes a bit of time to get back to you ...
>
> See responses below:
>
>
> On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 19:30, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > On 5 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 18:38, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > > > On 5 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > Anyway here is one:
> > > > >
> > > > > Running WinXP Home version.
> > > > >
> > > > > Using Cygwin 1.3.20
> > > > >
> > > > > When running my program with LocalSystem userid
> > > > > as a service, doing a pthread_kill(thread_id, SIGUSR2)
> > > > > causes some sort of memory fault referencing memory at 0x3a
> > > > > (or something like that because the program disappears
> > > > > poof).
> > > > >
> > > > > Running as a normal user works fine.
> > > >
> > > > What's the exact error message (I assume you get a popup box)?
> > >
> > > No, I get absolutely nothing. Poof and it is gone, well, the
> > > service manager knows it went away but not why.
> > >
> > > A friend ran the program on Win2K and he got:
> > >
> > >       Instruction at 0x0041276a referenced memory at 0x3c
> > >
> > > That appears to be somewhere in the cygwin1.dll.
> >
> > Try checking the "Allow service to interact with the desktop" box, and you
> > should see the error popup on your system too.
>
> My service always interacts with the desktop. It is capable of
> doing MessageBox(), and it always has an icon in the system tray
> with a menu that works.
>
> I get absolutely nothing in terms of output of any sort when
> the program crashes -- as I said, it goes poof.  This could
> be my own fault for trapping signals, but normally during
> signal handling there is a considerable amount of printout,
> ...
>
> > > > Is there a stacktrace file generated?
> > >
> > > If it is, I don't know where the system put it.
> >
> > The system should put it in the directory from which the program is run.
>
> There is no stack dump or any other file in the directory from
> which the program (Bacula) executes.
>
> >
> > > >   Did you try setting
> > > > "error_start:c:/cygwin/bin/dumper.exe" in your CYGWIN environment
> > > > variable?
>
> I doubt this would help much, maybe I am wrong, please see below.
>
> > >
> > > No, if you can tell me how to set the environment variable for
> > > a service, I'll try it, but since it is a service, I am unlikely
> > > to get any output.
> >
> > "cygrunsrv --help", or "man cygrunsrv", or see /bin/ssh-host-config for an
> > example.  You might also need the "Allow service to interact with desktop"
> > bit.
>
> None of the above mentioned things exist on my system. In any case,
> I have no problem setting the program up as a service (it installs
> itself with allowing interaction with the desktop by default).
>
> > > > Did you try running the program from the command line in a
> > > > LocalSystem-owned shell?
> > >
> > > I ran it in an rxvt shell under my id and it does not crash.
> > > Tell me how to get a LocalSystem owned shell and I will try
> > > it.  This is XP Home, so I don't have access to a lot of the
> > > XP security dialogs.
> >
> > "at <time> /interactive c:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -i --login"
> > (<time> should be current time however long you're willing to wait, at
> > least one minute).  "at /?" for help.
> > [Note, this works on Win2k, don't know about XP Home].
>
> Yes, your trick works on WinXP Home too. So much for Windows
> security!
>
> The interesting thing is that when I run the program under
> a rxvt window with the bash shell with the LocalSystem account,
> it does NOT crash.  I also ran the program under
> a MS DOS shell and I get the same result: it does
> not crash.
>
> It crashes only if it is started by the service dialog.
>
> > > > Can you provide a simple testcase that
> > > > reproduces your problem?
> > >
> > > Probably not as my program is some 65K+ lines of code.
>
> > You could try a simple program that calls the offending function (after
> > creating some threads, most likely), and see if the problem manifests...
>
> Well, I was considering doing so, since creating a thread
> and sending it a signal is a 10 line program. However, this
> problem requires the program to run as a service, and that
> is a considerable amount of code.

Kern,

That's what "cygrunsrv" is for!  It takes *any* command-line program and
turns it into a service. :-D  Try making a small command-line example and
run it as a service using cygrunsrv (you'll have to install the cygrunsrv
package).
	Igor

> > > I've solved the problem for myself by doing the "signal"
> > > a different way, so it is not critical for me but it cost
> > > about 8 hours of debugging -- primarily due to the fact that
> > > it seems to be dependent on whether or not it is a service.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Kern
> >
> > It's most likely dependent on the value of your CYGWIN variable or some
> > permissions (as the service runs as LocalSystem).  Trying the program out
> > from a LocalSystem-owned window (see above) should give you some idea of
> > what's at fault.
>
> I agree with you, but my CYGWIN environment variable is not set.
>
> If you have any other ideas I'll try them, otherwise, I'll avoid
> using pthread_signal() under CYGWIN.
>
> Best regards,
> Kern

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Re: Bug report

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 06:21:24PM +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote:
>I guess you guys (and gal) really don't want bug reports because it is
>not at all obvious where to send them.

From http://cygwin.com/lists.html - 

"cygwin: a high volume list for discussion of just about all things
Cygwin-related.  If you have questions about how to use Cygwin, or if
you have cygwin-specific (see above) questions, bugs, or observations
about the UNIX tools (bash, gcc, make, etc.) that come with Cygwin, this
is the list for you..."

The 'bugs' part of the above sentence would make it pretty obvious where
to send bug reports.

>Anyway here is one:
>
>Running WinXP Home version.
>
>Using Cygwin 1.3.20
>
>When running my program with LocalSystem userid as a service, doing a
>pthread_kill(thread_id, SIGUSR2) causes some sort of memory fault
>referencing memory at 0x3a (or something like that because the program
>disappears poof).
>
>Running as a normal user works fine.

The words at http://cygwin.com/bugs.html might help you craft a bug
report which actually would stand a chance of being looked at.  This
message is too vague for anyone to be able to help you.

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Re: pthread_signal() references illegal memory address

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On 11 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:

> Hello,
>
> In addition to the email you sent me last Thursday, which I
> received just a few minutes later, I just now received another
> copy apparently destined for david.postill@pobox.com, but some
> how it got routed to me, the long, slow way (3 days).
> Well, anything that goes to or through the Blue Yonder is
> likely to be a bit slow ... :-)
>
> By the way, I could not run my app. with cygrunsrv.  I
> don't know why, probably because both cygrunsrv and my app
> are trying to talk to the service manager, so for the moment
> I give up on this.

Kern,

cygrunsrv expects to be the one to talk to the service manager.  If your
program also does, there's an obvious conflict of interest.  I was
suggesting making a small command-line testcase, running it with
cygrunsrv, and seeing if it exhibits the same kind of behavior your main
program does.  If it doesn't, move code from your main application until
the behavior is replicated (or until all of the main application except
the service manager code is present).  If you still can't replicate the
problem, it's probably in your service manager interface code, and you
won't need it anyway with cygrunsrv (and you would have by that point a
service that runs with cygrunsrv).  If the behavior is replicated, look
into the code that was added last -- that's probably your culprit.  If you
can replicate the behavior in a small example, send it to the list.

> Best regards,
> Kern
>
> PS: I sent this off list on purpose -- I suspect there may be a
> bug in the list program, or more likely a bug at David Postill's
> site.

I don't see how this rates a private e-mail, especially to me.  If there
is a bug in the list software, the list should know about it.  If there is
a bug at David Posthill's site, he should know about it.  Please do not
send private mail unless requested to do so.
	Igor
P.S. I'm forwarding this whole e-mail to the list, as the below may be of
interest to at least David Posthill and possibly others.

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> On 8 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Please don't think I'm not interested in this if
> > it takes a bit of time to get back to you ...
> >
> > See responses below:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 19:30, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > > On 5 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 18:38, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > > > > On 5 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > > > Anyway here is one:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Running WinXP Home version.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Using Cygwin 1.3.20
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When running my program with LocalSystem userid
> > > > > > as a service, doing a pthread_kill(thread_id, SIGUSR2)
> > > > > > causes some sort of memory fault referencing memory at 0x3a
> > > > > > (or something like that because the program disappears
> > > > > > poof).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Running as a normal user works fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > What's the exact error message (I assume you get a popup box)?
> > > >
> > > > No, I get absolutely nothing. Poof and it is gone, well, the
> > > > service manager knows it went away but not why.
> > > >
> > > > A friend ran the program on Win2K and he got:
> > > >
> > > >       Instruction at 0x0041276a referenced memory at 0x3c
> > > >
> > > > That appears to be somewhere in the cygwin1.dll.
> > >
> > > Try checking the "Allow service to interact with the desktop" box,
> and you
> > > should see the error popup on your system too.
> >
> > My service always interacts with the desktop. It is capable of
> > doing MessageBox(), and it always has an icon in the system tray
> > with a menu that works.
> >
> > I get absolutely nothing in terms of output of any sort when
> > the program crashes -- as I said, it goes poof.  This could
> > be my own fault for trapping signals, but normally during
> > signal handling there is a considerable amount of printout,
> > ...
> >
> > > > > Is there a stacktrace file generated?
> > > >
> > > > If it is, I don't know where the system put it.
> > >
> > > The system should put it in the directory from which the program is
> run.
> >
> > There is no stack dump or any other file in the directory from
> > which the program (Bacula) executes.
> >
> > >
> > > > >   Did you try setting
> > > > > "error_start:c:/cygwin/bin/dumper.exe" in your CYGWIN
> environment
> > > > > variable?
> >
> > I doubt this would help much, maybe I am wrong, please see below.
> >
> > > >
> > > > No, if you can tell me how to set the environment variable for
> > > > a service, I'll try it, but since it is a service, I am unlikely
> > > > to get any output.
> > >
> > > "cygrunsrv --help", or "man cygrunsrv", or see /bin/ssh-host-config
> for an
> > > example.  You might also need the "Allow service to interact with
> desktop"
> > > bit.
> >
> > None of the above mentioned things exist on my system. In any case,
> > I have no problem setting the program up as a service (it installs
> > itself with allowing interaction with the desktop by default).
> >
> > > > > Did you try running the program from the command line in a
> > > > > LocalSystem-owned shell?
> > > >
> > > > I ran it in an rxvt shell under my id and it does not crash.
> > > > Tell me how to get a LocalSystem owned shell and I will try
> > > > it.  This is XP Home, so I don't have access to a lot of the
> > > > XP security dialogs.
> > >
> > > "at <time> /interactive c:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -i --login"
> > > (<time> should be current time however long you're willing to wait,
> at
> > > least one minute).  "at /?" for help.
> > > [Note, this works on Win2k, don't know about XP Home].
> >
> > Yes, your trick works on WinXP Home too. So much for Windows
> > security!
> >
> > The interesting thing is that when I run the program under
> > a rxvt window with the bash shell with the LocalSystem account,
> > it does NOT crash.  I also ran the program under
> > a MS DOS shell and I get the same result: it does
> > not crash.
> >
> > It crashes only if it is started by the service dialog.
> >
> > > > > Can you provide a simple testcase that
> > > > > reproduces your problem?
> > > >
> > > > Probably not as my program is some 65K+ lines of code.
> >
> > > You could try a simple program that calls the offending function
> (after
> > > creating some threads, most likely), and see if the problem
> manifests...
> >
> > Well, I was considering doing so, since creating a thread
> > and sending it a signal is a 10 line program. However, this
> > problem requires the program to run as a service, and that
> > is a considerable amount of code.
>
> Kern,
>
> That's what "cygrunsrv" is for!  It takes *any* command-line program and
> turns it into a service. :-D  Try making a small command-line example
> and
> run it as a service using cygrunsrv (you'll have to install the
> cygrunsrv
> package).
>         Igor
>
> > > > I've solved the problem for myself by doing the "signal"
> > > > a different way, so it is not critical for me but it cost
> > > > about 8 hours of debugging -- primarily due to the fact that
> > > > it seems to be dependent on whether or not it is a service.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Kern
> > >
> > > It's most likely dependent on the value of your CYGWIN variable or
> some
> > > permissions (as the service runs as LocalSystem).  Trying the
> program out
> > > from a LocalSystem-owned window (see above) should give you some
> idea of
> > > what's at fault.
> >
> > I agree with you, but my CYGWIN environment variable is not set.
> >
> > If you have any other ideas I'll try them, otherwise, I'll avoid
> > using pthread_signal() under CYGWIN.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Kern

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Re: pthread_signal() references illegal memory address

[Kern Sibbald]

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Hello,

Attached, you will find a MUCH simplified version of
the problem I am having. I believe that it has all
the essential elements. I built the program with
  
   make

nothing more. I run it, and it continuously loops as
designed. I install it with cygrunsrv and it seems to
be installed, then I start it with cygrunsrv and it
always errs, so I am unable to tell you whether or
not it reproduces my problem. If it does, the program
should die rather than continuing to loop.

You might want to try it for yourself as you surely 
understand using cygrunsrv better than I do.  This is 
the best I can do. I would appreciate it to know if 
you are able to reproduce the problem.

Best regards,

Kern


On Mon, 2003-05-12 at 03:02, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> On 11 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > In addition to the email you sent me last Thursday, which I
> > received just a few minutes later, I just now received another
> > copy apparently destined for david.postill@pobox.com, but some
> > how it got routed to me, the long, slow way (3 days).
> > Well, anything that goes to or through the Blue Yonder is
> > likely to be a bit slow ... :-)
> >
> > By the way, I could not run my app. with cygrunsrv.  I
> > don't know why, probably because both cygrunsrv and my app
> > are trying to talk to the service manager, so for the moment
> > I give up on this.
> 
> Kern,
> 
> cygrunsrv expects to be the one to talk to the service manager.  If your
> program also does, there's an obvious conflict of interest.  I was
> suggesting making a small command-line testcase, running it with
> cygrunsrv, and seeing if it exhibits the same kind of behavior your main
> program does.  If it doesn't, move code from your main application until
> the behavior is replicated (or until all of the main application except
> the service manager code is present).  If you still can't replicate the
> problem, it's probably in your service manager interface code, and you
> won't need it anyway with cygrunsrv (and you would have by that point a
> service that runs with cygrunsrv).  If the behavior is replicated, look
> into the code that was added last -- that's probably your culprit.  If you
> can replicate the behavior in a small example, send it to the list.
> 
> > Best regards,
> > Kern
> >
> > PS: I sent this off list on purpose -- I suspect there may be a
> > bug in the list program, or more likely a bug at David Postill's
> > site.
> 
> I don't see how this rates a private e-mail, especially to me.  If there
> is a bug in the list software, the list should know about it.  If there is
> a bug at David Posthill's site, he should know about it.  Please do not
> send private mail unless requested to do so.
> 	Igor
> P.S. I'm forwarding this whole e-mail to the list, as the below may be of
> interest to at least David Posthill and possibly others.
> 
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> > To: Kern Sibbald <kern@sibbald.com>
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> > Subject: Re: pthread_signal() references illegal memory address
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> > On 8 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Please don't think I'm not interested in this if
> > > it takes a bit of time to get back to you ...
> > >
> > > See responses below:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 19:30, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > > > On 5 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 18:38, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > > > > > On 5 May 2003, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > > > > > [snip]
> > > > > > > Anyway here is one:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Running WinXP Home version.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Using Cygwin 1.3.20
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When running my program with LocalSystem userid
> > > > > > > as a service, doing a pthread_kill(thread_id, SIGUSR2)
> > > > > > > causes some sort of memory fault referencing memory at 0x3a
> > > > > > > (or something like that because the program disappears
> > > > > > > poof).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Running as a normal user works fine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What's the exact error message (I assume you get a popup box)?
> > > > >
> > > > > No, I get absolutely nothing. Poof and it is gone, well, the
> > > > > service manager knows it went away but not why.
> > > > >
> > > > > A friend ran the program on Win2K and he got:
> > > > >
> > > > >       Instruction at 0x0041276a referenced memory at 0x3c
> > > > >
> > > > > That appears to be somewhere in the cygwin1.dll.
> > > >
> > > > Try checking the "Allow service to interact with the desktop" box,
> > and you
> > > > should see the error popup on your system too.
> > >
> > > My service always interacts with the desktop. It is capable of
> > > doing MessageBox(), and it always has an icon in the system tray
> > > with a menu that works.
> > >
> > > I get absolutely nothing in terms of output of any sort when
> > > the program crashes -- as I said, it goes poof.  This could
> > > be my own fault for trapping signals, but normally during
> > > signal handling there is a considerable amount of printout,
> > > ...
> > >
> > > > > > Is there a stacktrace file generated?
> > > > >
> > > > > If it is, I don't know where the system put it.
> > > >
> > > > The system should put it in the directory from which the program is
> > run.
> > >
> > > There is no stack dump or any other file in the directory from
> > > which the program (Bacula) executes.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > >   Did you try setting
> > > > > > "error_start:c:/cygwin/bin/dumper.exe" in your CYGWIN
> > environment
> > > > > > variable?
> > >
> > > I doubt this would help much, maybe I am wrong, please see below.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > No, if you can tell me how to set the environment variable for
> > > > > a service, I'll try it, but since it is a service, I am unlikely
> > > > > to get any output.
> > > >
> > > > "cygrunsrv --help", or "man cygrunsrv", or see /bin/ssh-host-config
> > for an
> > > > example.  You might also need the "Allow service to interact with
> > desktop"
> > > > bit.
> > >
> > > None of the above mentioned things exist on my system. In any case,
> > > I have no problem setting the program up as a service (it installs
> > > itself with allowing interaction with the desktop by default).
> > >
> > > > > > Did you try running the program from the command line in a
> > > > > > LocalSystem-owned shell?
> > > > >
> > > > > I ran it in an rxvt shell under my id and it does not crash.
> > > > > Tell me how to get a LocalSystem owned shell and I will try
> > > > > it.  This is XP Home, so I don't have access to a lot of the
> > > > > XP security dialogs.
> > > >
> > > > "at <time> /interactive c:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe -i --login"
> > > > (<time> should be current time however long you're willing to wait,
> > at
> > > > least one minute).  "at /?" for help.
> > > > [Note, this works on Win2k, don't know about XP Home].
> > >
> > > Yes, your trick works on WinXP Home too. So much for Windows
> > > security!
> > >
> > > The interesting thing is that when I run the program under
> > > a rxvt window with the bash shell with the LocalSystem account,
> > > it does NOT crash.  I also ran the program under
> > > a MS DOS shell and I get the same result: it does
> > > not crash.
> > >
> > > It crashes only if it is started by the service dialog.
> > >
> > > > > > Can you provide a simple testcase that
> > > > > > reproduces your problem?
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably not as my program is some 65K+ lines of code.
> > >
> > > > You could try a simple program that calls the offending function
> > (after
> > > > creating some threads, most likely), and see if the problem
> > manifests...
> > >
> > > Well, I was considering doing so, since creating a thread
> > > and sending it a signal is a 10 line program. However, this
> > > problem requires the program to run as a service, and that
> > > is a considerable amount of code.
> >
> > Kern,
> >
> > That's what "cygrunsrv" is for!  It takes *any* command-line program and
> > turns it into a service. :-D  Try making a small command-line example
> > and
> > run it as a service using cygrunsrv (you'll have to install the
> > cygrunsrv
> > package).
> >         Igor
> >
> > > > > I've solved the problem for myself by doing the "signal"
> > > > > a different way, so it is not critical for me but it cost
> > > > > about 8 hours of debugging -- primarily due to the fact that
> > > > > it seems to be dependent on whether or not it is a service.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Kern
> > > >
> > > > It's most likely dependent on the value of your CYGWIN variable or
> > some
> > > > permissions (as the service runs as LocalSystem).  Trying the
> > program out
> > > > from a LocalSystem-owned window (see above) should give you some
> > idea of
> > > > what's at fault.
> > >
> > > I agree with you, but my CYGWIN environment variable is not set.
> > >
> > > If you have any other ideas I'll try them, otherwise, I'll avoid
> > > using pthread_signal() under CYGWIN.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Kern

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#include "stdio.h"
#include "signal.h"
#include "pthread.h"
#include "unistd.h"

static int hb_bsock;
static pthread_t heartbeat_id;
static int stop;


#ifndef _NSIG
#define BA_NSIG 100
#else
#define BA_NSIG _NSIG
#endif

static const char *sig_names[BA_NSIG+1];

typedef void (SIG_HANDLER)(int sig);
static SIG_HANDLER *exit_handler;

/* 
 * Handle signals here
 */
static void signal_handler(int sig)
{
   static int already_dead = 0;

   if (already_dead) {
      _exit(1);
   }
   /* Ignore certain signals */
   if (sig == SIGCHLD || sig == SIGUSR2) {
      return;
   }
   printf("Got signal %d. Exiting.\n", sig);
   already_dead = sig;
   exit(1);
}


void init_signals(void terminate(int sig))
{
   struct sigaction sighandle;
   struct sigaction sigignore;
   struct sigaction sigdefault;
   exit_handler = terminate;
   sig_names[0]         = "UNKNOWN SIGNAL";
   sig_names[SIGHUP]    = "Hangup";
   sig_names[SIGINT]    = "Interrupt";
   sig_names[SIGQUIT]   = "Quit";
   sig_names[SIGILL]    = "Illegal instruction";;
   sig_names[SIGTRAP]   = "Trace/Breakpoint trap";
   sig_names[SIGABRT]   = "Abort";
#ifdef SIGEMT
   sig_names[SIGEMT]    = "EMT instruction (Emulation Trap)";
#endif
#ifdef SIGIOT
   sig_names[SIGIOT]    = "IOT trap";
#endif
   sig_names[SIGBUS]    = "BUS error";
   sig_names[SIGFPE]    = "Floating-point exception";
   sig_names[SIGKILL]   = "Kill, unblockable";
   sig_names[SIGUSR1]   = "User-defined signal 1";
   sig_names[SIGSEGV]   = "Segmentation violation";
   sig_names[SIGUSR2]   = "User-defined signal 2";
   sig_names[SIGPIPE]   = "Broken pipe";
   sig_names[SIGALRM]   = "Alarm clock";
   sig_names[SIGTERM]   = "Termination";
#ifdef SIGSTKFLT
   sig_names[SIGSTKFLT] = "Stack fault";
#endif
   sig_names[SIGCHLD]   = "Child status has changed";
   sig_names[SIGCONT]   = "Continue";
   sig_names[SIGSTOP]   = "Stop, unblockable";
   sig_names[SIGTSTP]   = "Keyboard stop";
   sig_names[SIGTTIN]   = "Background read from tty";
   sig_names[SIGTTOU]   = "Background write to tty";
   sig_names[SIGURG]    = "Urgent condition on socket";
   sig_names[SIGXCPU]   = "CPU limit exceeded";
   sig_names[SIGXFSZ]   = "File size limit exceeded";
   sig_names[SIGVTALRM] = "Virtual alarm clock";
   sig_names[SIGPROF]   = "Profiling alarm clock";
   sig_names[SIGWINCH]  = "Window size change";
   sig_names[SIGIO]     = "I/O now possible";
#ifdef SIGPWR
   sig_names[SIGPWR]    = "Power failure restart";
#endif
#ifdef SIGWAITING
   sig_names[SIGWAITING] = "No runnable lwp";
#endif
#ifdef SIGLWP
   sig_name[SIGLWP]     = "SIGLWP special signal used by thread library";
#endif
#ifdef SIGFREEZE
   sig_names[SIGFREEZE] = "Checkpoint Freeze";
#endif
#ifdef SIGTHAW
   sig_names[SIGTHAW]   = "Checkpoint Thaw";
#endif
#ifdef SIGCANCEL
   sig_names[SIGCANCEL] = "Thread Cancellation";
#endif
#ifdef SIGLOST
   sig_names[SIGLOST]   = "Resource Lost (e.g. record-lock lost)";
#endif


/* Now setup signal handlers */
   sighandle.sa_flags = 0;
   sighandle.sa_handler = signal_handler;
   sigfillset(&sighandle.sa_mask);
   sigignore.sa_flags = 0;
   sigignore.sa_handler = SIG_IGN;	 
   sigfillset(&sigignore.sa_mask);
   sigdefault.sa_flags = 0;
   sigdefault.sa_handler = SIG_DFL;
   sigfillset(&sigdefault.sa_mask);


   sigaction(SIGPIPE,	&sigignore, NULL);
   sigaction(SIGCHLD,	&sighandle, NULL);
   sigaction(SIGCONT,	&sigignore, NULL);
   sigaction(SIGPROF,	&sigignore, NULL);
   sigaction(SIGWINCH,	&sigignore, NULL);
   sigaction(SIGIO,	&sighandle, NULL);     

   sigaction(SIGINT,	&sigdefault, NULL);    
   sigaction(SIGXCPU,	&sigdefault, NULL);
   sigaction(SIGXFSZ,	&sigdefault, NULL);

   sigaction(SIGHUP,	&sigignore, NULL);
   sigaction(SIGQUIT,	&sighandle, NULL);   
   sigaction(SIGILL,	&sighandle, NULL);    
   sigaction(SIGTRAP,	&sighandle, NULL);   
/* sigaction(SIGABRT,	&sighandle, NULL);   */
#ifdef SIGEMT
   sigaction(SIGEMT,	&sighandle, NULL);
#endif
#ifdef SIGIOT
/* sigaction(SIGIOT,	&sighandle, NULL);  used by debugger */
#endif
   sigaction(SIGBUS,	&sighandle, NULL);    
   sigaction(SIGFPE,	&sighandle, NULL);    
   sigaction(SIGKILL,	&sighandle, NULL);   
   sigaction(SIGUSR1,	&sighandle, NULL);   
   sigaction(SIGSEGV,	&sighandle, NULL);   
   sigaction(SIGUSR2,	&sighandle, NULL);
   sigaction(SIGALRM,	&sighandle, NULL);   
   sigaction(SIGTERM,	&sighandle, NULL);   
#ifdef SIGSTKFLT
   sigaction(SIGSTKFLT, &sighandle, NULL); 
#endif
   sigaction(SIGSTOP,	&sighandle, NULL);   
   sigaction(SIGTSTP,	&sighandle, NULL);   
   sigaction(SIGTTIN,	&sighandle, NULL);   
   sigaction(SIGTTOU,	&sighandle, NULL);   
   sigaction(SIGURG,	&sighandle, NULL);    
   sigaction(SIGVTALRM, &sighandle, NULL); 
#ifdef SIGPWR
   sigaction(SIGPWR,	&sighandle, NULL);    
#endif
#ifdef SIGWAITING
   sigaction(SIGWAITING,&sighandle, NULL);
#endif
#ifdef SIGLWP
   sigaction(SIGLWP,	&sighandle, NULL);
#endif
#ifdef SIGFREEZE
   sigaction(SIGFREEZE, &sighandle, NULL);
#endif
#ifdef SIGTHAW
   sigaction(SIGTHAW,	&sighandle, NULL);
#endif
#ifdef SIGCANCEL
   sigaction(SIGCANCEL, &sighandle, NULL);
#endif
#ifdef SIGLOST
   sigaction(SIGLOST,	&sighandle, NULL);
#endif
}


static void *sd_heartbeat_thread(void *arg)
{
   pthread_detach(pthread_self());
   hb_bsock = 1;
   printf("HB thread started.\n");
   for ( ; !stop; ) {
      sleep(1000);
   }
   hb_bsock = 0;
   return NULL;
}

void start_heartbeat_monitor()
{
   stop = 0;
   hb_bsock = 0;
   pthread_create(&heartbeat_id, NULL, sd_heartbeat_thread, NULL);
}

/* Terminate the heartbeat thread. Used for both SD and DIR */
void stop_heartbeat_monitor() 
{
   /* Wait for heartbeat thread to start */
   while (hb_bsock == 0) {
      printf("Waiting for hb thread to start.\n");
      sleep(1);
   }

   stop = 1;

   while (hb_bsock) {
      /* Cygwin 1.3.20 craps out on the following */
      printf("Send sig %d\n", SIGUSR2);
      pthread_kill(heartbeat_id, SIGUSR2);  /* make heartbeat thread go away */
      sleep(1);
   }
}

void terminate(int sig)
{
   printf("Terminate handler.\n");
   exit(1);
}

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
   init_signals(terminate);
   for ( ;; ) {
      printf("Start...\n");
      start_heartbeat_monitor();
      sleep(1);
      printf("Stop...\n");
      stop_heartbeat_monitor();
      printf("Start and stop complete.\n");
   }
}


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Re: pthread_signal() references illegal memory address

[Kern Sibbald]

> 
> cygrunsrv expects to be the one to talk to the service manager.  If your
> program also does, there's an obvious conflict of interest.  I was
> suggesting making a small command-line testcase, running it with
> cygrunsrv, and seeing if it exhibits the same kind of behavior your main
> program does.  If it doesn't, move code from your main application until
> the behavior is replicated (or until all of the main application except
> the service manager code is present).  If you still can't replicate the
> problem, it's probably in your service manager interface code, and you
> won't need it anyway with cygrunsrv (and you would have by that point a
> service that runs with cygrunsrv).  If the behavior is replicated, look
> into the code that was added last -- that's probably your culprit.  If you
> can replicate the behavior in a small example, send it to the list.
> 

By the way, if it wasn't clear, the problem *is* with the pthread_kill()
statement. When it is in the program, the program dies. When I remove
it, the program works (I mean the real program running as a service).
That was the last thing that I added, so it isn't a question of the 
culprit being elsewhere.

Best regards,

Kern


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Re: pthread_signal() references illegal memory address

[Thomas Pfaff]

Kern Sibbald wrote:
> 
> By the way, if it wasn't clear, the problem *is* with the pthread_kill()
> statement. When it is in the program, the program dies. When I remove
> it, the program works (I mean the real program running as a service).
> That was the last thing that I added, so it isn't a question of the 
> culprit being elsewhere.
> 

pthread_kill is broken and has never worked as expected. To fix it the 
signal code in cygwin must be changed to support multithreaded apps, so 
do not expect that this will work in the near future.

Thomas


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