From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Who's using "CYGWIN=tty" and why?
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 08:56:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110510085607.GL27739@calimero.vinschen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f5bvcxj6aj6.fsf@calexico.inf.ed.ac.uk>
On May 9 18:36, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
> Corinna Vinschen writes:
>
> > On May 9 17:21, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
> >> Corinna Vinschen writes:
> >>
> >> > Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
> >> > as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
> >>
> >> I am one such.
> >>
> >> > Here's why we ask:
> >> >
> >> > We are both not sure why anybody would use it voluntarily, given that
> >> > it's I/O is extremly slow, compared to using a Windows console window in
> >> > the default CYGWIN=notty mode or, even better, mintty. Actually, we
> >> > only keep the console tty mode up because it was "always there", 14
> >> > years or so.
> >>
> >> Um, history is sticky, is I guess the answer. When I started using
> >> cygwin (a _long_ time ago), CYGWIN=tty was the recommended setting
> >> (and isn't it still there in cygwin/cygwin.bat ?). So I have
> >
> > No, it's not the default, and it never was, actually.
>
> Well, I guess I misunderstood the earlier version of this prose (from
> [1]):
>
> The CYGWIN variable is used to configure many global settings for
> the Cygwin runtime system. Initially you can leave CYGWIN unset or
> set it to tty (e.g. to support job control with ^Z etc...) using a
> syntax like this in the DOS shell, before launching bash.
>
> plus the prose further up
>
> Some of these settings need to be in effect prior to launching the
> initial Cygwin session (before starting your bash shell, for
> instance). They should therefore be set in the Windows environment
>
> to mean that CYGWIN=tty was recommended.
Well, it was just meant as an example.
> > And what do you use to run Cygwin apps?
>
> mintty, of course :-)
Attaboy ;)
> > Many native Windows tools don't work well in tty mode anyway. For
> > non-Cygwin tools, the default notty mode is the most compatible one.
>
> OK, I hear that as answers along the lines of "yes", and "only good
> things" to my questions:
>
> >> Is it time to remove it? I do use a windows console
> >> occasionally for pure Windows activities---what change(s) will I see?
>
> The Wayback machine [2] suggests that the prose quoted above hasn't
> changed for nearly 11 years -- perhaps it's due for an update?
Ok, I just did so in CVS.
Corinna
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-10 8:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-09 16:11 Corinna Vinschen
2011-05-09 16:21 ` Henry S. Thompson
2011-05-09 16:34 ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-05-09 17:37 ` Henry S. Thompson
2011-05-10 8:56 ` Corinna Vinschen [this message]
2011-05-10 1:42 ` rifter rifter
2011-05-09 16:32 ` Andrew Schulman
2011-05-09 16:40 ` Edward Lam
2011-05-09 17:03 ` Ken Brown
2011-05-09 20:00 ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-09 20:06 ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-09 17:41 ` Lee Maschmeyer
2011-05-09 17:52 ` Samuel Thibault
2011-05-09 20:05 ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-09 20:23 ` Samuel Thibault
2011-05-10 14:09 ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-05-10 14:59 ` Andy Koppe
2011-05-10 13:39 ` Lee Maschmeyer
2011-05-10 15:36 ` Charles Wilson
2011-05-10 16:45 ` Lee Maschmeyer
2011-05-09 21:14 ` Karl M
2011-05-09 21:39 ` Jeremy Bopp
2011-05-09 22:27 ` Thomas Wolff
2011-05-09 23:18 ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-10 2:30 ` Claude Sylvain
2011-05-10 8:29 ` Csaba Raduly
2011-05-10 9:02 ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-05-10 13:38 ` Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]
2011-05-10 17:19 ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-10 17:50 ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-10 22:12 ` Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]
2011-05-10 22:17 ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-10 14:51 ` Bernhard Ege
2011-05-10 14:58 ` Jeremy Bopp
2011-06-08 19:30 ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-10 21:18 Len Giambrone
2011-05-11 6:35 ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-05-11 10:12 ` David Antliff
2011-05-11 15:02 ` Edward Lam
2011-05-11 15:40 ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-11 16:00 ` Andy Koppe
2011-05-11 16:00 ` Edward Lam
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