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From: Thomas Wolff <towo@towo.net>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Who's using "CYGWIN=tty" and why?
Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 22:27:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DC86A3C.6060605@towo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110509161028.GJ27739@calimero.vinschen.de>

Am 09.05.2011 18:10, schrieb Corinna Vinschen:
> Hi,
>
>
> Chris and I are wondering how many people are using the Windows console
> as local console window in CYGWIN=tty mode and why.
>
> Here's why we ask:
>
> We are both not sure why anybody would use it voluntarily, given that
> it's I/O is extremly slow, compared to using a Windows console window in
> the default CYGWIN=notty mode or, even better, mintty.  Actually, we
> only keep the console tty mode up because it was "always there", 14
> years or so.
>
> So, if you're using a console in tty mode, why are doing that?  Did you
> ever notice that it's much slower?  Did you ever consider to switch to
> mintty or any other terminal emulator instead?  If not, why?  Would
> anybody really *miss* the CYGWIN=tty mode?  If so, why?  What does this
> mode have which isn't covered by notty mode or another terminal
> emulator?
I don't use it but there is one difference that I actually reported 
years ago:
http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=513
and I mentioned it again in
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-patches/2009-q4/msg00144.html
and
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-patches/2009-q4/msg00155.html
- later I tried to debug again and saw that with CYGWIN=tty, one 
fhandler_console object drives console I/O whereas with CYGWIN=notty 3 
objects are created (for stdin, stdout, stderr). This is the reason for 
the cursor position response code getting lost because it is pushed into 
the wrong fhandler_console object. I tried to patch it but it got all 
messed up so I didn't post anything then.
______
Thomas

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-09 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-09 16:11 Corinna Vinschen
2011-05-09 16:21 ` Henry S. Thompson
2011-05-09 16:34   ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-05-09 17:37     ` Henry S. Thompson
2011-05-10  8:56       ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-05-10  1:42     ` rifter rifter
2011-05-09 16:32 ` Andrew Schulman
2011-05-09 16:40 ` Edward Lam
2011-05-09 17:03   ` Ken Brown
2011-05-09 20:00   ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-09 20:06     ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-09 17:41 ` Lee Maschmeyer
2011-05-09 17:52   ` Samuel Thibault
2011-05-09 20:05     ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-09 20:23       ` Samuel Thibault
2011-05-10 14:09         ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-05-10 14:59           ` Andy Koppe
2011-05-10 13:39       ` Lee Maschmeyer
2011-05-10 15:36         ` Charles Wilson
2011-05-10 16:45         ` Lee Maschmeyer
2011-05-09 21:14 ` Karl M
2011-05-09 21:39   ` Jeremy Bopp
2011-05-09 22:27 ` Thomas Wolff [this message]
2011-05-09 23:18   ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-10  2:30 ` Claude Sylvain
2011-05-10  8:29 ` Csaba Raduly
2011-05-10  9:02   ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-05-10 13:38 ` Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]
2011-05-10 17:19   ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-10 17:50     ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-10 22:12     ` Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]
2011-05-10 22:17       ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-10 14:51 ` Bernhard Ege
2011-05-10 14:58   ` Jeremy Bopp
2011-06-08 19:30 ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-10 21:18 Len Giambrone
2011-05-11  6:35 ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-05-11 10:12   ` David Antliff
2011-05-11 15:02   ` Edward Lam
2011-05-11 15:40     ` Christopher Faylor
2011-05-11 16:00     ` Edward Lam
2011-05-11 16:00     ` Andy Koppe

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