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* MinTTY requires gdiplus.dll ? (2)
@ 2018-11-29 18:42 Houder
  2018-11-29 19:58 ` Corinna Vinschen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Houder @ 2018-11-29 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

Hi,

As I wrote in the preceding post ...

Using Corinna's latest snapshot in a "Dos box" results in a
prompt from bash.

Once in bash, I can launch MinTTY ( 64-@@ /usr/bin/mintty )

Placing strace in front of this call, results in:

64-@@ strace /usr/bin/mintty
--- Process 3112 created
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll at 
00000000777b0000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\kernel32.dll at 
0000000077690000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\KernelBase.dll at 
000007fefd490000
--- Process 3112 loaded E:\Cygwin64\bin\cygwin1.dll at 0000000180040000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\advapi32.dll at 
000007fefd750000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\msvcrt.dll at 
000007feff0a0000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\sechost.dll at 
000007feff910000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\rpcrt4.dll at 
000007feff630000
--- Process 3112 loaded 
C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.7601.18837_none_fa3b1e3d17594757\comc
tl32.dll at 000007fefb9c0000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\gdi32.dll at 
000007fefdc10000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\user32.dll at 
0000000077590000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\lpk.dll at 000007feff3a0000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\usp10.dll at 
000007feff9d0000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\shlwapi.dll at 
000007feff140000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\comdlg32.dll at 
000007fefefa0000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\shell32.dll at 
000007fefe130000
--- Process 3112 loaded 
C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.24280_none_145e10148b8de48e\GdiPlus.dll
at 000007fefb440000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\ole32.dll at 
000007feff3b0000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\imm32.dll at 
000007fefd720000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\msctf.dll at 
000007fefdb00000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\winmm.dll at 
000007fefa040000
--- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\winspool.drv at 
000007fef9f10000
--- Process 3112, exception c0000005 at 0000000180044bb3
--- Process 3112 exited with status 0xc0000005
Segmentation fault
64-@@ uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-6.1 Seven 2.12.0(0.330/5/3)  x86_64 Cygwin
64-@@

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* Re: MinTTY requires gdiplus.dll ? (2)
  2018-11-29 18:42 MinTTY requires gdiplus.dll ? (2) Houder
@ 2018-11-29 19:58 ` Corinna Vinschen
  2018-11-29 22:11   ` Thomas Wolff
  2018-11-30 12:42   ` Houder
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2018-11-29 19:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

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On Nov 29 19:41, Houder wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> As I wrote in the preceding post ...
> 
> Using Corinna's latest snapshot in a "Dos box" results in a
> prompt from bash.
> 
> Once in bash, I can launch MinTTY ( 64-@@ /usr/bin/mintty )
> 
> Placing strace in front of this call, results in:
> 
> 64-@@ strace /usr/bin/mintty
> --- Process 3112 created
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll at 00000000777b0000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\kernel32.dll at 0000000077690000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\KernelBase.dll at
> 000007fefd490000
> --- Process 3112 loaded E:\Cygwin64\bin\cygwin1.dll at 0000000180040000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\advapi32.dll at 000007fefd750000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\msvcrt.dll at 000007feff0a0000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\sechost.dll at 000007feff910000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\rpcrt4.dll at 000007feff630000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.7601.18837_none_fa3b1e3d17594757\comc
> tl32.dll at 000007fefb9c0000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\gdi32.dll at 000007fefdc10000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\user32.dll at 0000000077590000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\lpk.dll at 000007feff3a0000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\usp10.dll at 000007feff9d0000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\shlwapi.dll at 000007feff140000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\comdlg32.dll at 000007fefefa0000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\shell32.dll at 000007fefe130000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.24280_none_145e10148b8de48e\GdiPlus.dll
> at 000007fefb440000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\ole32.dll at 000007feff3b0000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\imm32.dll at 000007fefd720000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\msctf.dll at 000007fefdb00000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\winmm.dll at 000007fefa040000
> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\winspool.drv at 000007fef9f10000
> --- Process 3112, exception c0000005 at 0000000180044bb3
> --- Process 3112 exited with status 0xc0000005
> Segmentation fault

I can reproduce this but while it's clear *where* it happens, it's
unclear *when* and *why* it happens.

It only occurs if mintty is the first process in a process tree.  I.e.,
when starting mintty from a shell running in a DOS window, the problem
disappears.

Worse, the problem also disappears when running mintty under gdb.


Corinna

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* Re: MinTTY requires gdiplus.dll ? (2)
  2018-11-29 19:58 ` Corinna Vinschen
@ 2018-11-29 22:11   ` Thomas Wolff
  2018-11-29 22:40     ` Houder
                       ` (2 more replies)
  2018-11-30 12:42   ` Houder
  1 sibling, 3 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Wolff @ 2018-11-29 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

Am 29.11.2018 um 20:58 schrieb Corinna Vinschen:
> On Nov 29 19:41, Houder wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As I wrote in the preceding post ...
>>
>> Using Corinna's latest snapshot in a "Dos box" results in a
>> prompt from bash.
>>
>> Once in bash, I can launch MinTTY ( 64-@@ /usr/bin/mintty )
>>
>> Placing strace in front of this call, results in:
>>
>> 64-@@ strace /usr/bin/mintty
>> --- Process 3112 created
>> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll at 00000000777b0000
>> ...
>> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.7601.18837_none_fa3b1e3d17594757\comc
>> tl32.dll at 000007fefb9c0000
>> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\gdi32.dll at 000007fefdc10000
>> ...
>> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.24280_none_145e10148b8de48e\GdiPlus.dll
>> at 000007fefb440000
>> ...
>> --- Process 3112, exception c0000005 at 0000000180044bb3
>> --- Process 3112 exited with status 0xc0000005
>> Segmentation fault
There's also another dll reported from winsxs rather than System32 in 
your log. Maybe some files got corrupted on your system?

> I can reproduce this but while it's clear *where* it happens, it's
> unclear *when* and *why* it happens.
Unclear to me what exactly can be reproduced. With today's snapshot 
cygwin1.dll, I can start mintty any way, also from Explorer, via 
shortcut, or directly from cmd.exe (skipping cygwin shell).
Thomas

> It only occurs if mintty is the first process in a process tree.  I.e.,
> when starting mintty from a shell running in a DOS window, the problem
> disappears.
>
> Worse, the problem also disappears when running mintty under gdb.
>
>
> Corinna

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* Re: MinTTY requires gdiplus.dll ? (2)
  2018-11-29 22:11   ` Thomas Wolff
@ 2018-11-29 22:40     ` Houder
  2018-11-29 23:35     ` Houder
  2018-11-30 12:17     ` Corinna Vinschen
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Houder @ 2018-11-29 22:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin; +Cc: Thomas Wolff

On 2018-11-29 23:11, Thomas Wolff wrote:
>> On Nov 29 19:41, Houder wrote:
[snip]

>>> Placing strace in front of this call, results in:
>>> 
>>> 64-@@ strace /usr/bin/mintty
>>> --- Process 3112 created
>>> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll at 
>>> 00000000777b0000
>>> ...
>>> --- Process 3112 loaded 
>>> C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.7601.18837_none_fa3b1e3d17594757\comc
>>> tl32.dll at 000007fefb9c0000
>>> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\gdi32.dll at 
>>> 000007fefdc10000
>>> ...
>>> --- Process 3112 loaded 
>>> C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.24280_none_145e10148b8de48e\GdiPlus.dll
>>> at 000007fefb440000
>>> ...
>>> --- Process 3112, exception c0000005 at 0000000180044bb3
>>> --- Process 3112 exited with status 0xc0000005
>>> Segmentation fault
> There's also another dll reported from winsxs rather than System32 in
> your log. Maybe some files got corrupted on your system?

Files corrupted on Windows? Very likely.

That is why I stay as much as is possible way from my C:\ drive (in any 
form or
manner) ...

And you are right (GdiPlus.dll) ... I missed that. Now that I know how 
the name
must be spelled:

64-@@# find /drv/c/Windows -type f -name GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.0.7601.17514_none_3bd2e487d8e769d3/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.17514_none_2b24536c71ed437a/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/x86_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.0.7601.17514_none_83801b5eed6392d9/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/x86_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.17514_none_72d18a4386696c80/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/x86_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.0.7601.18946_none_8382f002ed61108b/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.0.7601.24234_none_2507449df28cf2b8/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.0.7601.23407_none_2503fd39f28ff711/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.0.7601.18946_none_3bd5b92bd8e4e785/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/x86_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.23149_none_5c0676f9a00e9169/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/x86_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.0.7601.24280_none_6cb9d807070433ed/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.18946_none_2b27281071eac12c/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.0.7601.24280_none_250ca12ff2880ae7/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.0.7601.23149_none_2507d13df28c8ebc/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/x86_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.24280_none_5c0b46eba00a0d94/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.23407_none_14556c1e8b95d0b8/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/x86_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.0.7601.23407_none_6cb13411070c2017/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/x86_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.0.7601.23149_none_6cb508150708b7c2/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/x86_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.18946_none_72d45ee78666ea32/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/x86_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.23407_none_5c02a2f5a011f9be/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.23149_none_145940228b926863/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/x86_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.24234_none_5c05ea59a00ef565/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.24234_none_1458b3828b92cc5f/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.24280_none_145e10148b8de48e/GdiPlus.dll
/drv/c/Windows/winsxs/x86_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.0.7601.24234_none_6cb47b7507091bbe/GdiPlus.dll

Lot of them!

Now I have to find out ... how to select the proper one and put it back 
in its proper
place.

... and I do not even want to know why it got lost :-(

Regards,

Henri

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* Re: MinTTY requires gdiplus.dll ? (2)
  2018-11-29 22:11   ` Thomas Wolff
  2018-11-29 22:40     ` Houder
@ 2018-11-29 23:35     ` Houder
  2018-11-30 12:17     ` Corinna Vinschen
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Houder @ 2018-11-29 23:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin; +Cc: Thomas Wolff

On 2018-11-29 23:11, Thomas Wolff wrote:
>> On Nov 29 19:41, Houder wrote:
[snip]

>>> Placing strace in front of this call, results in:
>>> 
>>> 64-@@ strace /usr/bin/mintty
>>> --- Process 3112 created
>>> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll at 
>>> 00000000777b0000
>>> ...
>>> --- Process 3112 loaded 
>>> C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.7601.18837_none_fa3b1e3d17594757\comc
>>> tl32.dll at 000007fefb9c0000
>>> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\gdi32.dll at 
>>> 000007fefdc10000
>>> ...
>>> --- Process 3112 loaded 
>>> C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.24280_none_145e10148b8de48e\GdiPlus.dll
>>> at 000007fefb440000
>>> ...
>>> --- Process 3112, exception c0000005 at 0000000180044bb3
>>> --- Process 3112 exited with status 0xc0000005
>>> Segmentation fault
> There's also another dll reported from winsxs rather than System32 in
> your log. Maybe some files got corrupted on your system?

Right.

copied this one:
c:/Windows/winsxs/amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.24280_none_145e10148b8de48e/GdiPlus.dll 
( 2177536 Oct  6 17:58 )

to c:/Windows/system32, on the 64-bits instance of Cygwin, and

copied this one:
c:/Windows/winsxs/x86_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.24280_none_5c0b46eba00a0d94/GdiPlus.dll 
( 1633280 Oct  6 17:43 )

to c:/Windows/system32, on the 32-bits instance of Cygwin.

(and No, normally I do not do these kinds of things. I think Windows 
should take
  care of itself -- it does not)

Now, "cygcheck mintty" (both on 64-bits and 32-bits) is "happy": all 
DLL's can be
found ... Good Heavens.

Henri

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* Re: MinTTY requires gdiplus.dll ? (2)
  2018-11-29 22:11   ` Thomas Wolff
  2018-11-29 22:40     ` Houder
  2018-11-29 23:35     ` Houder
@ 2018-11-30 12:17     ` Corinna Vinschen
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2018-11-30 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

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On Nov 29 23:11, Thomas Wolff wrote:
> Am 29.11.2018 um 20:58 schrieb Corinna Vinschen:
> > On Nov 29 19:41, Houder wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > As I wrote in the preceding post ...
> > > 
> > > Using Corinna's latest snapshot in a "Dos box" results in a
> > > prompt from bash.
> > > 
> > > Once in bash, I can launch MinTTY ( 64-@@ /usr/bin/mintty )
> > > 
> > > Placing strace in front of this call, results in:
> > > 
> > > 64-@@ strace /usr/bin/mintty
> > > --- Process 3112 created
> > > --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll at 00000000777b0000
> > > ...
> > > --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.7601.18837_none_fa3b1e3d17594757\comc
> > > tl32.dll at 000007fefb9c0000
> > > --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\gdi32.dll at 000007fefdc10000
> > > ...
> > > --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7601.24280_none_145e10148b8de48e\GdiPlus.dll
> > > at 000007fefb440000
> > > ...
> > > --- Process 3112, exception c0000005 at 0000000180044bb3
> > > --- Process 3112 exited with status 0xc0000005
> > > Segmentation fault
> There's also another dll reported from winsxs rather than System32 in your
> log. Maybe some files got corrupted on your system?
> 
> > I can reproduce this but while it's clear *where* it happens, it's
> > unclear *when* and *why* it happens.
> Unclear to me what exactly can be reproduced. With today's snapshot
> cygwin1.dll, I can start mintty any way, also from Explorer, via shortcut,
> or directly from cmd.exe (skipping cygwin shell).
> Thomas

Are you running Windows 10?  If so, you won't see this problem.
It only occurs on pre-W10 systems.  I have a local workaround but
I want to debug this a bit more since I still don't understand *why*
this occurs in the first place.

Btw., a mintty-debuginfo package would be most helpful...


Corinna

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* Re: MinTTY requires gdiplus.dll ? (2)
  2018-11-29 19:58 ` Corinna Vinschen
  2018-11-29 22:11   ` Thomas Wolff
@ 2018-11-30 12:42   ` Houder
  2018-11-30 13:19     ` Corinna Vinschen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Houder @ 2018-11-30 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 2018-11-29 20:58, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Nov 29 19:41, Houder wrote:
[snip]

>> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\winmm.dll at 
>> 000007fefa040000
>> --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\winspool.drv at 
>> 000007fef9f10000
>> --- Process 3112, exception c0000005 at 0000000180044bb3
>> --- Process 3112 exited with status 0xc0000005
>> Segmentation fault
> 
> I can reproduce this but while it's clear *where* it happens, it's
> unclear *when* and *why* it happens.
> 
> It only occurs if mintty is the first process in a process tree.  I.e.,
> when starting mintty from a shell running in a DOS window, the problem
> disappears.
> 
> Worse, the problem also disappears when running mintty under gdb.

(I do not understand _exactly_ what you say here)

Uhm, if I invoke "gdb /usr/bin/mintty" (so, from the "Dos box") the 
problem
does NOT disappear.

That is:

     2 threads are created ... and that is it; no MinTTY window showing 
up!

(hint: my system is a bit more peculiar than yours)

Henri

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* Re: MinTTY requires gdiplus.dll ? (2)
  2018-11-30 12:42   ` Houder
@ 2018-11-30 13:19     ` Corinna Vinschen
  2018-11-30 14:06       ` Houder
  2018-12-01  8:57       ` Houder
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2018-11-30 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

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On Nov 30 13:42, Houder wrote:
> On 2018-11-29 20:58, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > On Nov 29 19:41, Houder wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> > > --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\winmm.dll at
> > > 000007fefa040000
> > > --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\winspool.drv at
> > > 000007fef9f10000
> > > --- Process 3112, exception c0000005 at 0000000180044bb3
> > > --- Process 3112 exited with status 0xc0000005
> > > Segmentation fault
> > 
> > I can reproduce this but while it's clear *where* it happens, it's
> > unclear *when* and *why* it happens.
> > 
> > It only occurs if mintty is the first process in a process tree.  I.e.,
> > when starting mintty from a shell running in a DOS window, the problem
> > disappears.
> > 
> > Worse, the problem also disappears when running mintty under gdb.
> 
> (I do not understand _exactly_ what you say here)
> 
> Uhm, if I invoke "gdb /usr/bin/mintty" (so, from the "Dos box") the problem
> does NOT disappear.
> 
> That is:
> 
>     2 threads are created ... and that is it; no MinTTY window showing up!

I'm trying to avoid remote debugging so I rather try to reproduce this
@work.  However, if you're interested in debugging this, set a
breakpoint to clk_monotonic_t::now() and observe how the call to the
virtual init() method hangs or crashes.  If you find out why, I'd be
most grateful.


Corinna

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* Re: MinTTY requires gdiplus.dll ? (2)
  2018-11-30 13:19     ` Corinna Vinschen
@ 2018-11-30 14:06       ` Houder
  2018-12-01  8:57       ` Houder
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Houder @ 2018-11-30 14:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 2018-11-30 14:19, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Nov 30 13:42, Houder wrote:
>> On 2018-11-29 20:58, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>> > On Nov 29 19:41, Houder wrote:
>> [snip]
>> 
>> > > --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\winmm.dll at
>> > > 000007fefa040000
>> > > --- Process 3112 loaded C:\Windows\System32\winspool.drv at
>> > > 000007fef9f10000
>> > > --- Process 3112, exception c0000005 at 0000000180044bb3
>> > > --- Process 3112 exited with status 0xc0000005
>> > > Segmentation fault
>> >
>> > I can reproduce this but while it's clear *where* it happens, it's
>> > unclear *when* and *why* it happens.
>> >
>> > It only occurs if mintty is the first process in a process tree.  I.e.,
>> > when starting mintty from a shell running in a DOS window, the problem
>> > disappears.
>> >
>> > Worse, the problem also disappears when running mintty under gdb.
>> 
>> (I do not understand _exactly_ what you say here)
>> 
>> Uhm, if I invoke "gdb /usr/bin/mintty" (so, from the "Dos box") the 
>> problem
>> does NOT disappear.
>> 
>> That is:
>> 
>>     2 threads are created ... and that is it; no MinTTY window showing 
>> up!
> 
> I'm trying to avoid remote debugging so I rather try to reproduce this
> @work.  However, if you're interested in debugging this, set a
> breakpoint to clk_monotonic_t::now() and observe how the call to the
> virtual init() method hangs or crashes.  If you find out why, I'd be
> most grateful.

Sorry Corinna, your request is way over my head. I can only confirm, 
that gdb
does not return in clock.c

I set a breakpoint as you instructed. Subsequently I entered "run":

Thread 1 hit Breakpoint 1, clk_monotonic_t::now (
     this=this@entry=0x1802f91b0 
<strace::microseconds()::clock_monotonic>,
     clockid=clockid@entry=0, ts=ts@entry=0xffffc7c0)
     at 
/ext/build/mknetrel/src/cygwin-snapshot-20181129-1/winsup/cygwin/clock.cc

Then I "stepped" through winsup/cygwin/clock.cc

169     in 
/ext/build/mknetrel/src/cygwin-snapshot-20181129-1/winsup/cygwin/cloc
k.cc
(gdb)

Here "I lost control" ...

Using https://sourceware.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=newlib-cygwin.git, I can 
see that
it is "close" to the call of init() in clk_monotonic_t::now().

That is it for the moment. Still curious what Thomas W. has to report 
about his
system.

Regards,

Henri

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* Re: MinTTY requires gdiplus.dll ? (2)
  2018-11-30 13:19     ` Corinna Vinschen
  2018-11-30 14:06       ` Houder
@ 2018-12-01  8:57       ` Houder
  2018-12-01  9:49         ` Corinna Vinschen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Houder @ 2018-12-01  8:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 2018-11-30 14:19, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
[snip]

> I'm trying to avoid remote debugging so I rather try to reproduce this
> @work.  However, if you're interested in debugging this, set a
> breakpoint to clk_monotonic_t::now() and observe how the call to the
> virtual init() method hangs or crashes.  If you find out why, I'd be
> most grateful.

Below I included parts of the diff between 1126 and 1129. You have been
refactoring the code related to "timing".

Above you state that the call to init() (clk_monotonic_t::init(), is my
understanding) from clk_monotonic_t::now() makes the cygwin1.dll end up
in "some mysterious loop" (my wording). At least on pre-W10 ...

Looking at the code (trying to understand it), it appears to me that it
is NOT "Windows version" dependent ...

My question: why do you claim in

     https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2018-11/msg00261.html

that Windows 10 is NOT affected? Does W10 run a different "thread" in
the Cygwin codebase?

Regards,
Henri

======
https://cygwin.com/snapshots/x86/cygwin-diffs-20181126-20181129

FILE: winsup/cygwin/clock.h:

+class clk_t
+{
+ protected:
+  LONG inited;
+  LONGLONG ticks_per_sec;
+  virtual void init ();
+  virtual int now (clockid_t, struct timespec *) = 0
...

+class clk_monotonic_t : public clk_t
+{
+ protected:
+  virtual void init ();
+ private:
+  virtual int now (clockid_t, struct timespec *);
+};
...

FILE: winsup/cygwin/clock.cc:

+void
+clk_t::init ()
+{
+  spinlock spin (inited, 1);
+  if (!spin)
+    ticks_per_sec = system_tickcount_resolution ();
+}
+
...

+void
+clk_monotonic_t::init ()
+{
+  spinlock spin (inited, 1);
+  if (!spin)
+    ticks_per_sec = system_qpc_resolution ();
+}
...

+int
+clk_monotonic_t::now (clockid_t clockid, struct timespec *ts)
+{
+  if (wincap.has_precise_interrupt_time ())
+    {
+      /* Suspend time not taken into account, as on Linux */
+      ULONGLONG now;
+
+      QueryUnbiasedInterruptTimePrecise (&now);
+      ts->tv_sec = now / NS100PERSEC;
+      now %= NS100PERSEC;
+      ts->tv_nsec = now * (NSPERSEC/NS100PERSEC);
+    }
+  else
+    {
+      /* https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24330496.  Skip rounding 
since
+         its almost always wrong when working with timestamps */
+      UINT64 bias;
+      LARGE_INTEGER now;
+      struct timespec bts;
+
+      if (inited <= 0)
+       init ();                // Henri: invocation of 
clk_monotonic_t::init()
+      do
+       {
+         bias = SharedUserData.InterruptTimeBias;
+         QueryPerformanceCounter(&now);
+       }
+      while (bias != SharedUserData.InterruptTimeBias);
+      /* Convert perf counter to timespec */
+      ts->tv_sec = now.QuadPart / ticks_per_sec;
+      now.QuadPart %= ticks_per_sec;
+      ts->tv_nsec = (now.QuadPart * NSPERSEC) / ticks_per_sec;
+      /* Convert bias to timespec */
+      bts.tv_sec = bias / NS100PERSEC;
+      bias %= NS100PERSEC;
+      bts.tv_nsec = bias * (NSPERSEC/NS100PERSEC);
+      /* Subtract bias from perf */
+      ts_diff (bts, *ts);
+    }
+  return 0;
+}

=====

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* Re: MinTTY requires gdiplus.dll ? (2)
  2018-12-01  8:57       ` Houder
@ 2018-12-01  9:49         ` Corinna Vinschen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2018-12-01  9:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

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On Dec  1 09:57, Houder wrote:
> On 2018-11-30 14:19, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> > I'm trying to avoid remote debugging so I rather try to reproduce this
> > @work.  However, if you're interested in debugging this, set a
> > breakpoint to clk_monotonic_t::now() and observe how the call to the
> > virtual init() method hangs or crashes.  If you find out why, I'd be
> > most grateful.
> 
> Below I included parts of the diff between 1126 and 1129. You have been
> refactoring the code related to "timing".
> 
> Above you state that the call to init() (clk_monotonic_t::init(), is my
> understanding) from clk_monotonic_t::now() makes the cygwin1.dll end up
> in "some mysterious loop" (my wording). At least on pre-W10 ...
> 
> Looking at the code (trying to understand it), it appears to me that it
> is NOT "Windows version" dependent ...
> 
> My question: why do you claim in
> 
>     https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2018-11/msg00261.html
> 
> that Windows 10 is NOT affected? Does W10 run a different "thread" in
> the Cygwin codebase?

On W10, wincap.has_precise_interrupt_time () is true.


Corinna

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