RE: Where is getclip?

RE: Where is getclip?

[Lemke, Michael SZ/HZA-ZSW]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:06:49 -0400 Charles Wilson wrote:
>On 6/19/2013 9:59 AM, Lemke, Michael SZ/HZA-ZSW wrote:
>> Where's getclip.exe gone?  I still see it in cygutils-1.4.12-1.tar.bz2 while
>> cygutils-1.4.12-2.tar.bz2 is fairly empty:
>>
>> $ tar tvf /c/MyStuff/NCygwinDist/http%3a%2f%2fftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de%2fpub%2fMirrors%2fsources.redhat.com%2fcygwin%2f/release/cygutils/cygutils-1.4.12-2.tar.bz2
>> -rwxr-xr-x cwilson/Users 15901 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/bin/cygstart.exe
>> -rwxr-xr-x cwilson/Users 27165 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/bin/mkshortcut.exe
>> -rwxr-xr-x cwilson/Users 24605 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/bin/readshortcut.exe
>> -rw-r--r-- cwilson/Users  1674 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/share/man/man1/cygstart.1.gz
>> -rw-r--r-- cwilson/Users  2006 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/share/man/man1/mkshortcut.1.gz
>> -rw-r--r-- cwilson/Users  1402 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/share/man/man1/readshortcut.1.gz
>>
>> Is that intended?
>
>Yes. Install cygutils-extra. See:
>http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2013-06/msg00007.html
>
Thanks for the quick reply, I found it.  Nevertheless, all I did was updating cygwin and suddenly installed stuff was gone.  Not funny.

Michael


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Re: Where is getclip?

[Charles Wilson]

On 6/19/2013 10:16 AM, Lemke, Michael SZ/HZA-ZSW wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:06:49 -0400 Charles Wilson wrote:
>> On 6/19/2013 9:59 AM, Lemke, Michael SZ/HZA-ZSW wrote:
>>> Is that intended?
>>
>> Yes. Install cygutils-extra. See:
>> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2013-06/msg00007.html
>>
> Thanks for the quick reply, I found it.  Nevertheless, all I did was updating
 > cygwin and suddenly installed stuff was gone.  Not funny.

Ordinarily, package splits such as this one would ALSO incorporate 
modifications to the package requirements list, so that this sort of 
thing doesn't happen.

That is, the "slimmed down" cygutils package would 'require:' the 
cygutils-extra and cygutils-x11 packages, so that anybody who previously 
had the "old, fat" cygutils package installed would automatically get 
the two new packages, as part of the upgrade -- and would so no visible 
changes in their installation.

However, the purpose of this package split was specifically to *cut 
down* on the default installation footprint of cygutils -- because 
several elements in the 'Base' category require cygutils (specifically, 
they required mkshortcut, readshortcut, and cygstart).  Thus, in THIS 
case, we could NOT do the "normal" thing in manipulating the 
requirements specifications.

Which means..."I updated cygwin and suddenly installed stuff was gone". 
There just wasn't any better solution available.

Sorry for the trouble.

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RE: Where is getclip?

[Lemke, Michael SZ/HZA-ZSW]

On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:28:10 -0400 Charles Wilson wrote:
>On 6/19/2013 10:16 AM, Lemke, Michael SZ/HZA-ZSW wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:06:49 -0400 Charles Wilson wrote:
>>> On 6/19/2013 9:59 AM, Lemke, Michael SZ/HZA-ZSW wrote:
>>>> Is that intended?
>>>
>>> Yes. Install cygutils-extra. See:
>>> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2013-06/msg00007.html
>>>
>> Thanks for the quick reply, I found it.  Nevertheless, all I did was updating
> > cygwin and suddenly installed stuff was gone.  Not funny.
>
>Ordinarily, package splits such as this one would ALSO incorporate 
>modifications to the package requirements list, so that this sort of 
>thing doesn't happen.
>
...
>
>However, the purpose of this package split was specifically to *cut 
>down* on the default installation footprint of cygutils 

I expected something like that after reading your reply.

>
>Which means..."I updated cygwin and suddenly installed stuff was gone". 
>There just wasn't any better solution available.

Hm, couldn't you just have introduced a new package, say, cygbaseutils
and remove cygutils entirely?  At least, I would have noticed something's
different while updating.

>Sorry for the trouble.

No problem.  And I am out of here as I am currently not subscribed and
don't want to keep breaking the threads here.

Michael


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Re: Where is getclip?

[Charles Wilson]

On 6/19/2013 9:59 AM, Lemke, Michael SZ/HZA-ZSW wrote:
> Where's getclip.exe gone?  I still see it in cygutils-1.4.12-1.tar.bz2 while
> cygutils-1.4.12-2.tar.bz2 is fairly empty:
>
> $ tar tvf /c/MyStuff/NCygwinDist/http%3a%2f%2fftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de%2fpub%2fMirrors%2fsources.redhat.com%2fcygwin%2f/release/cygutils/cygutils-1.4.12-2.tar.bz2
> -rwxr-xr-x cwilson/Users 15901 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/bin/cygstart.exe
> -rwxr-xr-x cwilson/Users 27165 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/bin/mkshortcut.exe
> -rwxr-xr-x cwilson/Users 24605 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/bin/readshortcut.exe
> -rw-r--r-- cwilson/Users  1674 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/share/man/man1/cygstart.1.gz
> -rw-r--r-- cwilson/Users  2006 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/share/man/man1/mkshortcut.1.gz
> -rw-r--r-- cwilson/Users  1402 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/share/man/man1/readshortcut.1.gz
>
> Is that intended?

Yes. Install cygutils-extra. See:
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2013-06/msg00007.html

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Where is getclip?

[Lemke, Michael SZ/HZA-ZSW]

Where's getclip.exe gone?  I still see it in cygutils-1.4.12-1.tar.bz2 while
cygutils-1.4.12-2.tar.bz2 is fairly empty:

$ tar tvf /c/MyStuff/NCygwinDist/http%3a%2f%2fftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de%2fpub%2fMirrors%2fsources.redhat.com%2fcygwin%2f/release/cygutils/cygutils-1.4.12-2.tar.bz2
-rwxr-xr-x cwilson/Users 15901 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/bin/cygstart.exe
-rwxr-xr-x cwilson/Users 27165 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/bin/mkshortcut.exe
-rwxr-xr-x cwilson/Users 24605 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/bin/readshortcut.exe
-rw-r--r-- cwilson/Users  1674 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/share/man/man1/cygstart.1.gz
-rw-r--r-- cwilson/Users  2006 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/share/man/man1/mkshortcut.1.gz
-rw-r--r-- cwilson/Users  1402 2013-06-07 04:40 usr/share/man/man1/readshortcut.1.gz

Is that intended?

Thanks,
Michael



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