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* Windows 2019 support?
@ 2020-09-17 13:58 Chris Bovitz
  2020-09-17 15:52 ` Bill Stewart
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Chris Bovitz @ 2020-09-17 13:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

In the FAQ, item 1.2 (What version of Windows are supported?), it says this:

Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows. State [sic] January 2016 this includes Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008 and all later versions of Windows up to Windows 10 and Windows Server 2016.

To me, this implies that Windows Server 2019 is supported, but is that true?  If so, could the FAQ be updated to show that?  Thanks.


Chris

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* Re: Windows 2019 support?
  2020-09-17 13:58 Windows 2019 support? Chris Bovitz
@ 2020-09-17 15:52 ` Bill Stewart
  2020-09-19  3:32   ` Brian Inglis
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bill Stewart @ 2020-09-17 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 7:58 AM Chris Bovitz wrote:

Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows.
> State [sic] January 2016 this includes Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008
> and all later versions of Windows up to Windows 10 and Windows Server 2016.
>
> To me, this implies that Windows Server 2019 is supported, but is that
> true?  If so, could the FAQ be updated to show that?  Thanks.
>

Windows Server 2019 is just the server version of Windows 10 1809. In my
testing it works without any issues.

My recommendation is for the FAQ to state:

"Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows.
Since January 2016 this includes Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, and
all later versions."

Bill

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* Re: Windows 2019 support?
  2020-09-17 15:52 ` Bill Stewart
@ 2020-09-19  3:32   ` Brian Inglis
  2020-09-19  7:37     ` Thomas Wolff
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Brian Inglis @ 2020-09-19  3:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 2020-09-17 09:52, Bill Stewart wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 7:58 AM Chris Bovitz wrote:
> Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows.
>> State [sic] January 2016 this includes Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008
>> and all later versions of Windows up to Windows 10 and Windows Server 2016.
>>
>> To me, this implies that Windows Server 2019 is supported, but is that
>> true?  If so, could the FAQ be updated to show that?  Thanks.
>>
> 
> Windows Server 2019 is just the server version of Windows 10 1809. In my
> testing it works without any issues.
> 
> My recommendation is for the FAQ to state:
> 
> "Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows.
> Since January 2016 this includes Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, and
> all later versions."

Wanted to enumerate Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10 progression to be clear, exclude S
mode, add Cygwin32 on ARM, specify 64 bit only AMD/Intel, and remove any dates
to avoid confusion in future, so patched to read:

"1.2. What versions of Windows are supported?

Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows, from
Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10, Windows Server 2008 and all later versions of
Windows, except Windows S mode due to its limitations. The 32 bit version of
Cygwin also runs in the WOW64 32 bit environment on released 64 bit versions of
Windows including ARM PCs, the 64 bit version of course only on 64 bit AMD/Intel
compatible PCs."

but we are unsure how to get it regened and pushed onto the production web site.

-- 
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains
too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised.
[Data in IEC units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.]

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* Re: Windows 2019 support?
  2020-09-19  3:32   ` Brian Inglis
@ 2020-09-19  7:37     ` Thomas Wolff
  2020-09-19 16:10       ` Brian Inglis
  2020-09-21 14:49       ` Bill Stewart
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Wolff @ 2020-09-19  7:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin


Am 19.09.2020 um 05:32 schrieb Brian Inglis:
> On 2020-09-17 09:52, Bill Stewart wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 7:58 AM Chris Bovitz wrote:
>> Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows.
>>> State [sic] January 2016 this includes Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008
>>> and all later versions of Windows up to Windows 10 and Windows Server 2016.
>>>
>>> To me, this implies that Windows Server 2019 is supported, but is that
>>> true?  If so, could the FAQ be updated to show that?  Thanks.
>>>
>> Windows Server 2019 is just the server version of Windows 10 1809. In my
>> testing it works without any issues.
>>
>> My recommendation is for the FAQ to state:
>>
>> "Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows.
>> Since January 2016 this includes Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, and
>> all later versions."
> Wanted to enumerate Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10 progression to be clear, exclude S
> mode, add Cygwin32 on ARM, specify 64 bit only AMD/Intel, and remove any dates
> to avoid confusion in future, so patched to read:
>
> "1.2. What versions of Windows are supported?
>
> Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows, from
> Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10, Windows Server 2008 and all later versions of
> Windows, except Windows S mode due to its limitations. The 32 bit version of
> Cygwin also runs in the WOW64 32 bit environment on released 64 bit versions of
> Windows including ARM PCs, the 64 bit version of course only on 64 bit AMD/Intel
> compatible PCs."
You'd mention WOW64 but not Windows 32 bit. Is that on purpose? It might 
suggest to someone that cygwin does not run on a 32 bit processor but it 
does.

> but we are unsure how to get it regened and pushed onto the production web site.
>


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* Re: Windows 2019 support?
  2020-09-19  7:37     ` Thomas Wolff
@ 2020-09-19 16:10       ` Brian Inglis
  2020-09-21 14:49       ` Bill Stewart
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Brian Inglis @ 2020-09-19 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 2020-09-19 01:37, Thomas Wolff wrote:
> 
> Am 19.09.2020 um 05:32 schrieb Brian Inglis:
>> On 2020-09-17 09:52, Bill Stewart wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 7:58 AM Chris Bovitz wrote:
>>> Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows.
>>>> State [sic] January 2016 this includes Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008
>>>> and all later versions of Windows up to Windows 10 and Windows Server 2016.
>>>>
>>>> To me, this implies that Windows Server 2019 is supported, but is that
>>>> true?  If so, could the FAQ be updated to show that?  Thanks.
>>>>
>>> Windows Server 2019 is just the server version of Windows 10 1809. In my
>>> testing it works without any issues.
>>>
>>> My recommendation is for the FAQ to state:
>>>
>>> "Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows.
>>> Since January 2016 this includes Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, and
>>> all later versions."
>> Wanted to enumerate Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10 progression to be clear, exclude S
>> mode, add Cygwin32 on ARM, specify 64 bit only AMD/Intel, and remove any dates
>> to avoid confusion in future, so patched to read:
>>
>> "1.2. What versions of Windows are supported?
>>
>> Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows, from
>> Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10, Windows Server 2008 and all later versions of
>> Windows, except Windows S mode due to its limitations. The 32 bit version of
>> Cygwin also runs in the WOW64 32 bit environment on released 64 bit versions of
>> Windows including ARM PCs, the 64 bit version of course only on 64 bit AMD/Intel
>> compatible PCs."

> You'd mention WOW64 but not Windows 32 bit. Is that on purpose? It might suggest
> to someone that cygwin does not run on a 32 bit processor but it does.

That wording was in Corinna's update:

https://cygwin.com/git/?p=newlib-cygwin.git;a=blobdiff;f=winsup/doc/faq-what.xml;h=056cf9132fc42da2e9c68c5a27b291a9f78eeb21;hp=beae035c3ca74eb4eeb859f4f5b06282b096a3f8;hb=db9a8c9983066cfd5ebc7b50c47c118143c55a10;hpb=0f5a7b350ff74b5e7649bce03bc212d3a121acea

and took it as obvious that the 32 bit version (only one available at that time)
 was built for and runs under 32 bit Windows, but "also runs" in those other
environments.
When prompted by comments we are trying to patch docs to clarify (and update)
the info, with minimal changes necessary.

[No idea even what we ran at home after W98SE before W7, maybe XP SP3?]

-- 
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains
too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised.
[Data in IEC units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.]

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* Re: Windows 2019 support?
  2020-09-19  7:37     ` Thomas Wolff
  2020-09-19 16:10       ` Brian Inglis
@ 2020-09-21 14:49       ` Bill Stewart
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bill Stewart @ 2020-09-21 14:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 1:37 AM Thomas Wolff wrote:

> > Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows, from
> > Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10, Windows Server 2008 and all later versions of
> > Windows, except Windows S mode due to its limitations. The 32 bit version of
> > Cygwin also runs in the WOW64 32 bit environment on released 64 bit versions of
> > Windows including ARM PCs, the 64 bit version of course only on 64 bit AMD/Intel
> > compatible PCs."
>
> You'd mention WOW64 but not Windows 32 bit. Is that on purpose? It might
> suggest to someone that cygwin does not run on a 32 bit processor but it
> does.

If WOW64 is supported, then IMO it's implied that the 32-bit version
works on 32-bit Windows. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to state it
explicitly, though.

Bill

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2020-09-19 16:10       ` Brian Inglis
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